Hostages condition on release

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/08/israel-hamas-hostages-released-gaza-latest-news/

The images speak for themselves

The highly respected British surgeon Nizam manifested testified in front of a committee in parliament of IDF controlled drones targeting children. He described seeing this again and again and he had no doubt it was intentional.
I’m also posting some links to the horrific mistreatment of Palestinians in Israeli jails which you seem to imply is self inflected ( you seem to think every single one is on a hunger strike ) more than 60 Palestinian in Israeli custody have died just in the past year but there’s no outcry from you about that
Many of those arrested are medical doctors and 3 doctors have been killed in Israeli detention for the crime of not leaving there patients ( and evidence of torture and rape )
I’ve shared some links

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglkvjr7lx0o.amp

www.bmj.com/content/387/bmj.q2672

No because I’ve not come on here saying it can mean different things depending on when it’s used !

You make a valid point. 🎗️🇮🇱

Yes - no point in encouraging goady posters

I read last night that Or Levy also didn't know his wife was dead.

Eli Sharabi's guards had told him throughout his 491 days of captivity that his wife and daughters were waiting for him in Israel and that he'd be reunited with them when he got home. I'm finding it hard to fathom such monstrous cruelty.

The release of five Thai hostages last week was carried out with little fanfare and no onstage propaganda as Hamas considered them to be "low value" hostages. They've saved their Nazi style public humiliation ceremonies solely for their Jewish victims.

Hamas have only one agenda and that is to sow as much oppression, hatred, suffering and destruction as possible, whilst enriching themselves. They represent nothing other than themselves and a very bleak future for Gaza and the Palestinians as a whole if they can't be removed from power.

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No he did not say he SAW drones targeting children. He was repeating what he was TOLD.

Do you not think Palestinians (and I say Palestinians as Hamas are not the only terrorist group in Gaza and they all have their own supporters) have a vested interest in accusing Israel of anything they can that they know their global intellectually challenged supporters and anti semites will lap up? There are reports going back many years of them killing each other, not a stretch that they would kill their own, including children, to frenzy the propaganda machine.

I remember a Palestinian, who now lives in Israel and converted to Judaism, recounted one of his earliest memories of going to the market with his mother as a young child and seeing the head of a woman rolling down the street. She had been dragged out of her home and executed in the street due to suspicion of collaboration with the Jews. It was a normal occurrence he said.

If you can believe a doctor repeating what he’s been told, I can believe someone who saw something with his own eyes.

Why do you think the Israelis saved Sinwar’s life if they treat prisoners so badly?

The ‘evidence’ in the links you posted are ‘testimonies’ of radicalised people living under an extremist terrorist government, who were/may have been involved in terrorism themselves, against their sworn enemy who they make no bones about wanting to annihilate.

You talk about critical race theory, how about you do some critical thinking?

Agreed

@statsfun absolutely.

I apologise as my posts did derail the thread which should only be recognizing the absolute horror that the HOSTAGES have gone through and will continue to go through for the rest of their lives but I have occasionally lurked on this board and have been horrified by some of the stuff posted from posters with a clear agenda which certainly isn’t borne out of unbiased verified facts, evidence or even common sense!

Anyone who has the slightest bit of support for people who film themselves cheering at and attacking the naked, violated, dead body of a young woman, take babies and young children hostage with their terrified mother, or keep civilian hostages prisoner in their homes, or needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror

Palestinians who want peace, and Palestinian children who are entitled to grow up in peace, should not be forced to live among them in that kind of horror either.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/8/seven-palestinians-freed-by-israel-admitted-to-hospital

@Branleuse have you read any of the individual stories and understand why they are being seen?
Do you know how many prisoners Israel treats? Sinwar wouldn't have been alive to commit the atrocities he did if Israel hadn't treated him in hospital.

I don't think it was your posts that derailed the thread. I do think there needs to be more discussion about de-radicalisation though. It's a massive problem and I can't see how there will ever be peace without a concerted effort from unbiased secular influence. Children need to have more to aim for than martyrdom. And Israelis will never be safe if that is the mindset of their neighbour.

According to the link from the poster is because of the tortures they’ve gone through whilst detained

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from the link
Every time prisoners are released, we find the prisoners’ bodies reflecting the level of crimes committed against them, including torture that is unprecedented in its level after October 7, starvation crimes, systematic medical crimes, and the infection of a number of them with scabies, in addition to the severe beatings that the prisoners were subjected to before their release, which continued for days according to many of their testimonies, and which in some cases led to rib fractures,” the organisation said in a statement last week.
One of the released Palestinians said, “For the past 15 months, we were exposed to the most brutal torture … the Israelis treated us in inhumane ways. They treated animals better than us.”

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whilst they might treat some , they also deny access to treatment to others and as a result they end up dying. (One of them last month )

forgive me if I can't believe hamas propaganda

That’s alright if You believe every detainee has been treated rightly and been given access to medical care it’s fine , that’s your choice / right to believe that.

@EasterIssland do you think I would comment if I hadn't read the link and read around it? It's from Al Jazeera as well so hardly unbiased.

There has Also been photos released of someone with cancer and someone named who has never actually released. Also a lady referred for ongoing treatment after receiving treatment for burns to her hands (Israel gave her skin grafts etc) after she set off a bomb in her hands.

So I will reserve judgement.

@EasterIssland Any views or comments on the poor innocents Israeli hostages that have just been released. You know, the subject of the thread?

yes you will find my comment on the first page of this thread

@EasterIssland

I saw some posts.

If you'll indulge me, I can rephrase. Any concern or sympathy for the poor innocent Israeli hostages?

Any reason why you’re demanding an opinion from me when you’ve not even posted one yourself?

Sorry @EasterIssland I wasn't demanding anything, I was just asking

It's just you were posting about released prisoners with such concern, it struck me that you hadn't shown the same concern about the subject of this thread

I've certainly expressed my view about the poor hostages

It's sick. That they were taken in the first place, that they have undergone such horrors over the last 15 months and the barbaric, savage way they were treated at release.

It breaks my heart.

I was replying to another poster to a comment they had done, unless this isn’t allowed.

I’ve the same sympathy for innocent Palestinians as for Israelis that have been hostages / detained

when they were innocent , specially for those that have been treated badly like the 3 men from this thread. I hope in a future there are no more 7-oct and that Palestinians and Israelis can live peacefully side by side without the extremism government they both have nowadays.

Russia, having seen the condition of these three poor men, have now demanded the release of dual citizen Sasha Troponov.
Hamas have said they need more time because he's currently not in good enough condition.

Did Hamas actually say that though? If they did they are basically admitting that he's been mistreated (in addition to actually kidnapping him in the first place) and that's not something I've seen them admit before. They usually paint that the hostages are cared for like princes.