Hostages condition on release

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/08/israel-hamas-hostages-released-gaza-latest-news/

The images speak for themselves

Re what you said here:

There are reports going back many years of them killing each other, not a stretch that they would kill their own, including children, to frenzy the propaganda machine.
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Perhaps you might consider this evidence:

This is a CNN news report about 46 US doctors who wrote about their experience in Gaza.

We cannot remain silent about what we saw.’ US doctors who volunteered in Gaza demand ceasefire in letter to White House
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/world/open-letter-45-us-physicians-gaza/index.html

Excerpt from this CNN article quoting a Jewish American doctor who was one of those who wrote the letter:

He recalled two patients aged around six years old, who had suffered gunshots to their heads and chests – wounds which suggested they had been deliberately targeted, he said.

“No kid gets shot twice by a sniper by mistake,” Perlmutter said, adding that the shots were “dead center” to their chests

Copy of letter from 46 American doctors to The White House, in X
https://x.com/FerozeSidhwa/status/1816488896005648589

And,

30 UK-based medical professionals send open letter to Prime Minister demanding a ban on arms sales to Israel
https://www.icjpalestine.com/2024/08/22/30-uk-based-medical-professionals-send-open-letter-to-prime-minister-demanding-a-ban-on-arms-sales-to-israel-2/

U.K. letter below:
https://www.icjpalestine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/UK-Doctor-Letter.pdf
Excerpt from the UK letter:
All of us treated children who seemed to have been deliberately targeted by mili Bullet wounds to children's heads and torsos and amputations of limbs and eye were commonplace.

We've had Palestinians tell the media that Israelis are alive and being treated in hospital when they know full well that they have already murdered that person and we've had Palestinians tell the media that Israelis are dead when those Israelis have subsequently turned out to be alive and freed as hostages. I don't know why anyone believes a word they say. It's all just lies, mind games and blatant propaganda. The worst is the media lapping it up and repeating it without doing the most basic verification. Where is the scrutiny?

Yahya Sinwar had his enemies beaten, tortured and murdered in prison. (Hey, at least he couldn't force them to dig their own graves and then watch as they were buried alive in concrete as he liked to do outside of prison.) I wouldn't put it past the Palestinians to inflict injuries on each other as they leave prison. Wasn't there at least one case in a previous prisoner release (IIRC) where a prisoner was beaten by his fellow convicts on the transport home just so they could claim he had been brutalised in prison?

It doesn't get mentioned in the Western media but the Israelis have been allowing some sick and injured Palestinians to be transported from Gaza through Israel so they can receive hospital treatment in places such as the UAE and Turkey. Can you imagine the Palestinians doing the same? It strikes me that the Israelis care more about Palestinian children than the Palestinians themselves.

It was also reported by the BBC. The source was the Red Cross:
Israel's prison service says that all 183 Palestinian prisoners due to be released today have now been freed. According to the Palestine Red Crescent Society, seven of them have been taken to hospital

Haaretz (Israeli) reported:
*As the release began in the West Bank's Ramallah, six prisoners were taken to a hospital straight after their release from Israeli prisons, the Red Cross said.

The Times of Israel reported
The Palestinian Red Crescent medical service said six of the 42 released in the West Bank were in poor health and taken to hospitals. Some prisoners complained of ill-treatment, Reuters reported.

At least 2 of those female hostages were attacked and injured in the past year, Hamas released it last year sometime. Emily Damari was released with her fingers blown off from trying to protect her dog from being killed.

If it is to be assumed Hamas are releasing the most physically fit first, this is only going to get worse. I cannot get the difference between the before and after photos of the 3 poor men released yesterday. They look haunted.

The horror awaiting Eli Sharabi was just awful. Telling him his family were alive and announcing his brother's death to cheers from the crowds knowing he was going back to find out Lianne, Noiya and Yahel were murdered as well. Awful, spiteful, just plain cruel. This is not normal for prisoners of war/hostages

Hamas are turning up with well fed, happy spectators of all ages and sexes, little girls in their finery. The atmosphere is celebratory and happy from them, masked and civilians alike.

Hamas are showing their strength with signage promoting their beliefs in front of undamaged buildings. They have clean clothes and uniform, and the white cars are sparkly clean. There are a lot of clean white cars and a lot of people.

The disparity between the conditions of the hostages and the population surrounding them is going to become undeniably obvious. Out of 17 left to be returned at the moment, we know 8 of them are dead. Hamas won't reveal who.

This is the most healthy of the men coming back to Israel. News was released that at least one hostage still there has eye and hand injuries. He was a talented piano player before he was kidnapped and held hostage. I don't think he's on the list to be released at this phase.

Why can't aid workers visit the hostages? It's obvious they're needing support. Why are Hamas allowed to have international laws about prisoners so blatantly ignored without global reactions condemning them?

The Palestine region is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. Why do you think there were only around 20 000 of them left there by the end of the nineteenth century? They were the ones who were ethnically cleansed.

Haaretz is reporting that a source in Washington says Netanyahu wants to stall the next stage and urges how imperative it is to put pressure on him not to do this because the remaining hostages are men and may be being treated especially horrifically as we see Ori Levy, Ben Sharabi, and Ohad Ben Ami have been:

The implications of this for the remaining hostages are clear. All of the remaining living hostages in Gaza are men, most of them of fighting age – 50 or younger, and therefore either serving as reservists or theoretically capable of doing so. It's known that the male hostages in the Strip were in many cases treated even more harshly than their female counterparts, who were subjected to physical and psychological abuse. Most of the remaining hostages probably look like the three who returned to Israel on Saturday, half-starved.

It's not hard to imagine the condition of those remaining in the tunnels and what is liable to happen to them if the second stage is delayed.

Pressure could be put on Hamas to allow aid workers access in the meantime, or even to just give the hostages back straightaway.

It is not Netanyahu that is mistreating the hostages. It is not Israel delaying handover arrangements. It is Hamas. Hamas is responsible for how they are treating their captives. Releasing them to cheering, happy crowds of civilians in well polished surroundings is just bizarre when all of Gaza has been portrayed as a hellscape for the past 16 months.

It almost looks like Hamas are the legitimate authority in Gaza, with significant public support. I know most Palestinians there don't support them but this makes it look like a fair few do. Just like a fair few people in Israel don't like Netanyahu. He gets protests about him there, and all around the world, why not Hamas?

From the telegraph arricle, Isaac Herzog's quote "this is what a crime against humanity looks like".
Three thin men.

Three emaciated, tortured, men surrounded by a sea of plump jeering Hamas supporters .

Babies have died because their mothers can’t produce milk due to insufficient food supplies. Not enough food has gone in and what has just isn’t enough.

Also -judging from the photos- it looks as if the Hamas terrorists have been taking all the food supplies and depriving the ordinary citizens.

This unfortunately is true, the whole situation is truly awful 😞

What a disgusting comment. Three civilians kidnapped, tortured and intentionally starved, and you refer to them as ‘three thin men’.

@SherryPort18 if that is what you truly see then it is YOU that have the humanity problem.

Agree

@Snippit isn't it more the case that the aid that has been getting in has gone know where near the people that actually need it? And that's on Hamas.

Yes it has. Guess who takes possession of the food when it arrives? Can't guess? Well it's Hamas. They're the one who take the food and give out whatever rations they want. We already know they are pretty much savages and don't care about their people at all. They twist everything to make Israel out to be the bad guys. If you haven't grasped that by now I don't know what to tell you.

Odd how food was getting through to the Hamas terrorists they looked very well fed.

I think PP is saying it is a crime against humanity? I didn't read it as minimising the suffering, more how obvious it was when they were released.

Hamas might be taking some of the aid but it is well known that nowhere near enough aid had gone in compared to what was needed. I am astounded that posters are completely denying this.

It's shocking to see posters try and re-write what has happened. As If Israel has done absolutely no wrong. Have you all forgotten that Israel was threatened with a cut of military aid If they didn't stop the practice of blocking aid by the US? Or the siege of Northern Gaza before the ceasefire?

Nowhere near enough aid has gone in. This is not propaganda to state this.

I said all allong that Israel and its supporters would attempt to re-write history. But we all bore witness to what happened, despite Israel's best efforts to prevent reporting. They could do nothing about smartphones and local journalists who were already there could they! We know, we saw, and we must never let it be denied or forgotten.

It seems a lot of people have forgotten the horrors that actually happened on October 7th!