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Conflict in the Middle East
Auvergne63 · 15/01/2025 15:05

stomachamelon · 14/01/2025 20:50

And you have hit the nail on the head with Gideon Levy's grift...

No newspaper would print an article stating 'scientist states vegetables are healthy'. The scientist that gets published is the one stating ' vegetables are dangerous and we should eat more sugar'

In the same vein a Jew stating that Israel has the right to exist and the hostages need to be returned in full doesn't get speaking engagements or interviews.

A Jew who advocates for Israel becoming a Muslim- led, Muslim majority one state is the one that gets to speak at a concert hall and collect a hefty pay check aka it ain't that deep. (He was also pro Netanyahu for a while whilst it wasn't cool)

Funny how people want to dismiss the views of a Jewish Israeli opposed to the mass slaughter of children and women.
Funny how Netanyahu wants to get rid of Haaretz.
A democracy suppressing free press is not a democracy.

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SharonEllis · 15/01/2025 15:17

Auvergne63 · 15/01/2025 15:05

Funny how people want to dismiss the views of a Jewish Israeli opposed to the mass slaughter of children and women.
Funny how Netanyahu wants to get rid of Haaretz.
A democracy suppressing free press is not a democracy.

But the point is Israel is a democracy and he can't get rid of Haaretz, however much he, undoubtedly would like to. Even Haaretz only condemned the move as 'another step in Netanyahu’s journey to dismantle Israeli democracy.' The cabinet voted to boycott Haaretz and there is no law saying a government has to advertise in every media publication, or give them interviews, or write for them, or share their publications. Every UK government in my life time has at various times cut off relations with some part of the media from time to time. Its not a good look but its also not something to exaggerate.

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SharonEllis · 15/01/2025 16:09

I don't have a Haaretz subscription at the moment.

LoremIpsumCici · 15/01/2025 18:57

A Jew who advocates for Israel becoming a Muslim- led, Muslim majority one state

I will assume you mean that as an hypothetical because it isn’t Gideon Levy’s opinion. He has stated that he doubts the two state solution is feasible for numerous reasons and thinks the international community just can’t admit failure - Israel has never wanted it & doesn’t want it, less than half of Israelis and Palestinians want it in polls, and the reality on the ground has created a fear of unknown. He calls the two state solution a train that has already left the station.

He advocates for “looking for alternative solutions” among which are European models where it is one state but with devolution similar to the U.K., or a Federated version like Germany & the US of states within a nation state.

He has never once advocated for “Israel becoming a Muslim-led, muslim majority” anything.

stomachamelon · 15/01/2025 19:12

@SharonEllis yes Haaretz has written an article about it Confusedmore emotive language and hyperbole.

LoremIpsumCici · 15/01/2025 19:24

stomachamelon · 15/01/2025 19:12

@SharonEllis yes Haaretz has written an article about it Confusedmore emotive language and hyperbole.

Which you yourself are no stranger to

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