Hezbollah supporters

[OctoberOctopus]

You hear posters say that the population of a country doesn't necessarily support the terrorist groups. They are not involved etc. Seems an incorrect statement.

Then you see a ceasefire between Hezbollah and Israel. Hundreds and hundreds of people retuning to homes waving Hezbollah flags claiming victory over Israel and victory for the resistance. They haven't suddenly decided to support terrorists, they did all along.

Israel were at war with Hamas. Hezbollah just after the hamas attack of October 7th launched missiles into Israel to support hamas. One terrorist organisation supporting another whilst the people support them.

Over a year later finally a ceasefire. So the people of Lebanon, a country not occupied support their terrorist organisation Hezbollah with their 'resistance'. They are cheering a victory. Really deluded people. How can there be peace whilst they support terrorists. Their own government don't appear to run the show there and until Israel hit the Hezbollah leadership were weak with Hezbollah doing what they want.

Makes me realise more why many support Israel against people that cheer on terrorists.

Yes, I thought that might be the case, as they are able to buy arms as well as fund defense.

In terms of casualties, the IDF are absolutely open and you won’t find anything to support a contrary view.

You know that for a fact? However little or much it may be, it is all used for terrorism not defence of innocent civilians left to fend for themselves.

Hamas and Hezbollah do not fund defence. The money is used for terrorism or to line the terrorists own pockets. I despair of the disinformation on this thread.

And Israel never fired a rocket at Lebanon?

You know as well as I do Israel gives more than it gets by whatever measure you choose.

No one had a problem with Israel 100 years ago...

Please justify the colonisation and ethnic cleansing of the West Bank?

I'm watching people happily say they support hezbollah. Delusional silly people.

For the daft at the back I NEVER SAID ISRAEL HAS NEVER FIRED A ROCKET. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO BLINDLY SUPPORT TERRORISTS HEZBOLLAH, CHEER THEM ON, THINK THEY ARE VICTORIOUS, THINK HEZBOLLAH IS THE ANSWER IN THE LEBANON. Some geography, the LEBANON is not Gaza or The West Bank. Simple topic, each thread has a different title and subject.

What do you mean by 'noone had a problem with Israel 100 years ago'.

You seem to have misunderstood.

Exactly this!

Well what do you think happens when Israel kill innocent civilians in Lebanon?

Ofcourse the Lebanese are going to see Israel as the enemy.

Also Israel has openly stated that parts of Lebanon should be their territory according to Jewish scriptures. The people of Lebanon are very well aware of this.

https://archive.ph/kFmFP#selection-753.448-753.481

An archive from the Jereusalam post which covers which areas Israeli leaders believe make up their promised land. It includes Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq.

Can you please detail which ‘Israeli leader’ wrote this? It wasn’t by a politician at all was it?

It’s an article in a newspaper by a random contributor. He’s obviously nuts, but there are lots of crazies around. Do you want to compile a list of statements from Hizbollah, Hamas and Iran talking about taking over Israel? That is a much easier task…

Please don’t mislead people about the nature of the conflict with Lebanon.

Indeed.

The poster is grasping by looking at very old scriptures. As a commentator said thst discussion of old text

"It is clearly stated by all (Including the Rambam) that what was promised in Brit bein habsarim was not said for our times (ours today or 2000 years ago,this world as we know it before the coming of the Messia etc) and we were not commanded to conqur that even when we entered the land.
What you are saying is simply not true according to any source in Judaism.
Second-As to what we were indeed commanded to conqur when we entered the land (יהושע) it was not Lebanon but the eastern part of it. The western part was Phoenician and there is a halachic debate if ever part of'

Maybe if terrorist groups from Lebanon would stop attacking Israel they wouldn't need to defend themselves. Terrorist attacks go back a long way.

The PLO recruited militants in Lebanon. After the PLO leadership and its Fatah brigade were expelled from Jordan in 1970–71 for fomenting a revolt, they entered southern Lebanon, increasing violence there. The Palestinian terrorist groups have been causing mayhem for a long time and part of the reason other countries don't offer refuge to Palestinians, it ends in trouble for them too.

Hamas fund defense. Well that's a joke since they don't. They fund attacks and luxurious lifestyles for the scum at the top. Fund defense of the people at the bottom, no chance, pawns to the leadership.

"Poor kids growing up with hatred"

Are you kidding? Those kids you apparently care about? Yeah, well many are now homeless.

And you do know when and why Hezbollah started right?

Heard of Sabra and Shatila? The Israeli massacre of Lebanese civilians?

If Hezbollah didn't exist, those "poor kids" wouldn't be living under Hezbollah, they'd be living under Israeli apartheid, like the Palestinian kids.

Oh, and lots of those "poor kids" are actually refugees in the first place, their families expelled from their homes by the grandparents of the non"extremist" Israelis you seem to think are so different from the "extremist" ones.

Life under Hezbollah isn't most people's idea of utopia, but for those "poor kids", it's 100x better than being under a system of apartheid run by a genocidal state.

If you actually cared about the "poor kids", you wouldn't be posting this on a PARENTING site, you be posting hoping that the missing Lebanese toddlers are found safe and well, rather than under the rubble of their apartment that was bombed while they were asleep in their beds.

So by your logic - when Hamas kill innocent Israelis and take them capture it's ok for Israel to take issue with Gaza.
Of course Israel will see Gaza as the enemy...

No issues with this? All OK yes? To be expected?

Or is there one rule specially for how Israel should behave that doesn't apply to anyone else?

@OctoberOctopus it is open season for terrorist supporters in their home countries and here. It was obvious ever since the 08/
10 when we saw Hamas supporters in this country. Happy at the destruction. Openly celebrating death in the streets of the UK.

I agree.

I feel sorry that those poor kids parents didn't make better choices for them. Back hezbollahs constant attacks! Don't be surprised when Israel comes back.

Some countries are able to move on from huge losses eg Germany and Japan without carrying on and being encouraged to carry on years of hatred. Different mindset. Look forward and prosper (Germans and Japanese) or onwards with hatred supporters of terrorists won't improve their lot whilst they support terrorists. Have a better government and spend money improving things for their people or more corruption and rich terrorists leaders. Some countries are stuck in medieval times in more ways than one.

The state of Israel didn't exist 100 years ago, so its not clear what you mean when you say 'noone had a problem with Israel 100 years ago'. An you explain?
I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone here defend the expansion of settlements on the West Bank either.

@gestroopd let's mention the approx 900,000 Jews forcibly thrown out of Arab countries... where they came from...between 1948 and 1970? Where is the generational hatred to those countries? You don't see them teaching the next generation hatred. I've seen food and culture and traditions passed down...those Jews made new homes all over the world and assimilated and contributed.

Those who teach their kids more hate are contributing to endless violence.

Indeed.

Different mindset.

@gestroopd
Heard of Sabra and Shatila? The Israeli massacre of Lebanese civilians?

You mean the massacre carried out by Lebanese militia after the PLO were ousted from Jordan for trying to assassinate King Hussein (who had sheltered them) so went to Lebanon and tried to take over there as a base to destroy Israel, before Arafat fled to Tunisia. Murder & mayhem followed Arafat but somehow he never gets his share of the blame.

@gestroopd
Heard of Sabra and Shatila? The Israeli massacre of Lebanese civilians?

You mean the massacre carried out by Lebanese militia after the PLO were ousted from Jordan for trying to assassinate King Hussein (who had sheltered them) so went to Lebanon and tried to take over there as a base to destroy Israel, before Arafat fled to Tunisia. Murder & mayhem followed Arafat but somehow he never gets his share of the blame.