Ireland, is this true?

[SR71Blackbird]

Wasn’t sure where to ask this but there’s a piece in the JC about antisemitism in the Irish curriculum. It seems legit but incredulous:

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/jews-are-jesus-killers-and-israel-is-uniquely-aggressive-what-irish-pupils-are-taught-dhqmypgo

Can anyone here verify?

I managed to watch it but I’m at a loss to understand why you posted it?

I can see some idiotic soldiers taking the p** out of my religion. Sadly Christians are pretty used to that . Not sure why you posted it .

Okay

Are you trying to offend? Seeing as you know I’m a weekly mass goer?

Hardly

Well you sent me an offensive video with people mocking my religion and you are not explaining why . I think that’s provocative @JaneJeffer

I posted a video on Mumsnet. I didn't send it to you. How would I? I don't know you from Adam.

Yes - you posted an offensive video mocking Christianity on mumsnet . Not to me . But you made a comment that I am a “weekly mass goer” and refused to say why you’d posted it .
Pretty unpleasant behaviour and I can’t imagine you’d do that to any other religion .

You might want to go back and re-read the thread @Limesodaagain your comprehension of what was said is completely wrong

That's a bit of a leap! I think the purpose of the post was clear and didn't seem to be directed at you.

I asked the poster a number of times to explain why she posted the video but she wouldn’t. And yet you think the purpose was clear . Perhaps you’d be kind enough to explain the purpose since she would not ?

Perhaps you should read the conversation again!?

Ok.
So you came on the thread to tell me the purpose of the post with an offensive video about Christianity was clear to you …but you’re not going to tell me what the purpose was . ..

“I'm sure the IDF couldn't give a fuck what Canon Oxley had to say”

I’m assuming pp posted the video to emphasise her point (above), not to insult you @Limesodaagain?

Then she said you might find it hard to watch, probably because she knew you to be a committed Christian. She’d have inferred this as you’d already said you go to Mass weekly.

Ok. Thanks.
I can see there is that interpretation.
It was the poster’s refusal to give any context or explanation for the video that seemed provocative.

Pretty sure it was in the context of the comment quoted above.

Offensive in any case to post that video without an explanation.
I opened it thinking it was about Lebanese Christians ( a group i try to support via charity) and was faced with mockery of Christianity. It wasn’t expected as it had nothing to do with the thread topic. It took me a few moments to interpret and - yes - I did feel offended by the poster’s response to my questions afterwards because I was already upset by the video .

Anyway - that’s me done on here .
( cue for all the smart comments about the door hitting my arse in the way out/ I won’t be missed etc 🙄😱

Actually, Limesoda you would be missed.😿

@Limesodaagain "Was this the official position of the C of E - seems unlikely?
or a suggestion by one vicar outside of a church service?"

No, not a suggestion of just one vicar and it was 2006. Things have only got worse but people supporting Israel and Israelis themselves turn a blind eye with their cries of the settlers aren't us or their extremist Govt members aren't us blah blah

Church votes to sell off shares in Caterpillar | Israel | The Guardian

Given that Israeli citizenship is immediately granted to Jewish people who live/move there, (on the basis of their religion) I think calling it an Ethnoreligious state is an absolutely valid comment.

Muslim countries by and large (none to my knowledge) do not grant immediate citizenship purely on religious grounds. In fact regardless of the most common religion and how strictly it is embedded in the law of the land, only Israel to my knowledge offers citizenship to one religion-no questions asked.

Interlaken - Israel offers refuge to Jews because its raison d'etre was to be somewhere that Jews could escape to - at times of rising antisemitism this is something we are all grateful for. Bear in mind that many new immigrants are not Jewish but have a Jewish grandparent. If they changed the law of return people would say that there is no reason to have the state and Israel would get panned for that. Oddly, most Muslim states don't have crowds of people applying for citizenship...

PS - I like the username. Maybe will change mine to Zweilutschinen or Lauterbrunnen

They are on Remembrance Sunday ! Which is what I said, you know the Sunday that commemorates the end of WWI?

Sorry to burst your bubble but the ideology long predates the Nazis.

I don't know all the books in question.

The greta Thunberg is nitpicking. Does the big balloon trump make us all Anti American?

And the Muslim and Christian charities that help homeless people are, I suspect, the Muslim sisters of Eire and some other Christian charity . I think the Muslim sisters of Eire are the only non Christian or secular charity operating in homelessness. There is no Jewish homeless charity in Ireland. Charities here tend to be secular or have Christian roots.

I don't think kids are taught anti semitism in school but Ireland is very pro Palestinian - it is not controversial here, it is the default position. On my road there are at least 4 Palestinian flags in windows. A kid in the street could tell you about children suffering in Gaza. The focus is on horror at the suffering, a hope for peace and a two state solution being the answer - not antisemitism or anti Israel.

@samG76

I'm told that all the Irish papers are like the Guardian or further left.

I had to laugh out loud at this. Oh don't worry we have our fair share of right and far right journalists!

Sorry - when I said guardian and further left, I mean there are no consistently pro-Israel commentators. In the UK the Telegraph, spectator, the Times (sometimes) and many of the tabloids are generally fairly-pro-Israel, while Guardian Observer independent are more anti-Israel. There are only pro-Israel and anti-Israel MPs. But there is a debate. As mollyfolk says, being anti-Israel in Ireland it is not controversial - it's the default position. It is certainly the position of the political parties. And that is the issue for Jewish community, and why I wouldn't recommend that any Jews move there for anything other than a very short term assignment.