Ireland, is this true?

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Wasn’t sure where to ask this but there’s a piece in the JC about antisemitism in the Irish curriculum. It seems legit but incredulous:

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/jews-are-jesus-killers-and-israel-is-uniquely-aggressive-what-irish-pupils-are-taught-dhqmypgo

Can anyone here verify?

To the poster who asked about what Israelis learn about Ireland, it is generally quite positive. Yitzhak Shamir, the head of the pre-state underground and later Israelis leader, took the nom de guerre Michael, after Michael Collins, and Rabbi Herzog was known as the IRA Rabbi for his republican leanings. Many of the Palestine Police had previously been Black & Tans, so the Israelis knew what the Irish had gone through.

I didn’t know that about the Black and Tans..
The relationship between Israel and Ireland is very strained at the moment. Hopefully this isn’t creating tensions for Irish Jews going about their daily business. There are definitely increased tensions in the UK but apparently - according to posters in here - not in Ireland.. Good news if true

Many of the Palestine Police had previously been Black & Tans, so the Israelis knew what the Irish had gone through.

The way you've worded this is very strange. More accurate to say the Irish know what the Arab population of Palestine went through given the brutal colonial police force that collectively punished Irish civilians was sent to do the same to the Arab population of Palestine.

Absolutely for clarity for those who aren't familiar with the black and tans

Another thing Ireland and Palestine had in common were the Black and Tans. They were a brutal British police force named for the color of their uniforms, and infamous for killing Irish civilians in the early 20th century. After Irish independence, the Black and Tans deployed to British Mandate Palestine, where they exercised colonial power over the mostly Arab population there.

Exactly. People leap to wild assumptions of why Ireland has such solidarity with the Palestinian people instead of it possibly being because of their literal shared history.

Having solidarity with Palestinians is obviously understandable.

I suppose the concern of this thread ( expressed in the OP although the incident referred to seems to have been misinterpreted) is what this means for Irish Jews. Do they ( like British Jews) feel that there has been an increase in anti semitism?
This is an article from 2018 - it seems there were some tensions then .www.irelandisrael.ie/blog/anti-semitism-in-ireland/
Has there been an increase in anti semitic incidents in Ireland in the last year?

The Jewish population in Ireland is very small, 0.043% of the population and mainly confined to Dublin. It seems there has been an uptick in online abuse and also antisemitic chanting at pro Palestinian marches similar to other countries but no major increase in real life antisemitic incidents.

I have tried looking online and I can't find anything to say that they have but that Irish Jews have reported an increase in encountering online antisemitism according to JRC which brings together Jewish Organisations in Ireland.

I think that the best people to listen to regarding a Jewish people's experiences would be Jewish led organisations. I'm not sure if you're aware the link you're sharing to a non-Jewish organisation that exists to promote the interests of Israel...

According to article from the Jewish news syndicate Jewish people in Ireland feel safe but concerned.

https://www.jns.org/amid-heightened-tensions-irelands-jews-feel-safe-but-concerned/

The website of the Jewish Council of Ireland is under construction so can't access it.

Interesting quote from article I posted above. Definitely see it on these boards. Good to see a more balanced honest article on the situation for Jews living in Ireland.

Rifka Lent runs the Chabad house in Dublin with her husband and has lived in Ireland for 24 years.
“I do think Israelis see Ireland as much more antisemitic than it is,” she said. “I don’t know why that is. Maybe they feel Ireland shouldn’t be so anti-Israel and they feel betrayed in some ways,” she added.

They really should moderate the comments on there. A couple are shocking. It's strange how someone living in Ireland gives their lived experience and everyone in the comments tells them that they are wrong.

Are you referring to the 7 year old blog? I was quoting someone else living in Ireland and their current view and also the current chair of the Jewish Council of Ireland. Who said anyone was wrong?

I was referring to the comments on the jns article that are hate filled like this one The Irish Gov't PROFOUNDLY hates Israel to the point where I would consider leaving the place, unless you love these people....I do NOT. I hate them, the way they look, the way they speak, their tendency to sound ignorant and stupid. I would never visit the place. There are plenty of other places which are green. I hope the Irish go bankrupt, seriously.

And the other comments that say that the lady who is quoted in the article is deluded and should leave.

The Palestine police fought the Jews just as much as they did the Arabs. That's why there was a Jewish underground.

FWIW, I don't know anyone who thinks there is a future for Jews in Ireland, not necessarily sue to antisemitism but because once you are below a critical mass it is just a matter of managing the decline. But the Jews do think they are lacking allies, so when the President writes a condolence letter on the death of the president of Iran, or a Remembrance day sermon by a priest turns into a rant about the "Master Race", there isn't the sort of pushback that there would be in the UK, for example. I'm told that all the Irish papers are like the Guardian or further left.

I don't seem to be able to access the comments section thankfully but that quote is appalling back to the Irish are stupid tropes. Not sure how they think you can fight antisemitism with hate. Job done jns I guess

I'm told that all the Irish papers are like the Guardian or further left.
Who told you that? They're not all like the Guardian. The Irish Tines centrist leaning right, The Independent centrist leaning ever so slightly left.

You're just making stuff up now. A terrorist group that terrorised Arab people was not caused by or associated with the Palestinian police unless you are gonna provide evidence to back that up.

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Good to hear that the Jewish community feels safe ( although understandably concerned )

Lol at the idea of The Irish Times being left of the Guardian. I wish! 😂

I didn’t see the hateful comments. I think it’s ok for people to disagree with the views expressed. They have their own “lived experience “ after all.. I can’t all imagine all Jewish people in Ireland think the same way.
I get the overall impression Ireland has experienced a similar increase in antisemitism as the UK. - mostly online but some incidents at marches . In the UK there have been incidents involving Jewish schools. That’s obviously very alarming. There has also been harassment of people going to synagogues. I’m glad to hear those things haven’t happened in Ireland.

I do think Rifka Lent is right about the small numbers of Jews adding to their sense of vulnerability at this time . Numbers wise , the Muslim community is far greater and more vocal in Europe. That might add to the fear of being victimised as a minority community .

It’s very easy for anger about the Palestinians to spill over into mistreatment of innocent civilians so It is important that tensions are addressed andconcerns are taken seriously. This is especially true in schools. It goes without saying (but I’ll say it anyway) all children must feel safe and secure in school.

I also think the point in the article about the Irish people tending to support the underdog was well made and rings true.

It’s worth remembering that, while the Palestinians are the “underdog” ( an understatement) in the Middle East - a young Jewish child , because of current circumstances, might feel the bullied underdog in a Dublin school.

I hate them, the way they look, the way they speak, their tendency to sound ignorant and stupid. I would never visit the place. There are plenty of other places which are green. I hope the Irish go bankrupt, seriously.

This is just 'people disagreeing'?

Ask Trump to close down trade with Ireland-istan as they are now members os Hamas and Hezbollah

This is just people disagreeing?

We have different opinions of what is ok.

Eh, we are neutral and always act diplomatically. We literally are known internationally for it. Any Irish person of any or no religion will be well aware.

You can't compare an action in the UK, who invaded countries with Ireland a long staid neutral nation.

I would suggest you read online newspapers rather than making sweeping statements. We are a nation of 5 million so there's different voices

I can’t all imagine all Jewish people in Ireland think the same way
No obviously not but the comments on the article were not from Irish Jews they were hate comments about Irish people.

"We are neutral...." - not in the Middle East, it seems. But a convenient excuse for not joining NATO or fighting with the Allies in WWII.