How will Trump deal with the conflict in the middle east?

[Whatsinanamehey]

Thoughts? I noticed towards the last leg of his campaign he kept repeating he will end wars, which could also have won him some votes. Personally, I'm sceptical on his ability to improve the situation but I would like to be hopefully proved wrong. I also find it a little frightening that he was voted back in despite his past record of some of the horrible things he has said and done, but this is what the majority of Americans want.

So would you be happy for the US to stop supporting the Iron Dome which protects Israel from attack?

I’m not sure he is even for the US, I think he’s more interested in himself. Let’s hope he doesn’t do anything on a whim!

Hamas and hezbollah would love that outcome. No defence against them, not that they ever stop firing missiles just bleat just Israel fire back.

Why is it US’ responsability to support the iron dome? I’m happy with it and I think it’s needed but I also think it should be Israel’s only responsibility to take care of it and not the rest of the worlds.

Maybe the US is happy to support Israel against terrorism? Most countries want yo defeat terrorism.

I think thats up to Israelis & Americans. As far as I know the rest of the world aren't particularly involved, except in having an opinion of course. As in everything Israel does.

I think Trump will want to whatever is cheapest for the USA. I think I would be more worried about what Vance thinks, fairly sure he’s going to be running the show.

On what evidence do you think Vance is going to be running the show? VPs are never particularly powerful.

Don’t forget, Trump hates Iran and might be quite interested in continuing to supply Israel with weapons to stop Iran becoming more powerful in the region, especially since Iran claims they have nuclear capability now. He will also be keen for deals with Saudi etc to be done.

One thing he can do is clamp down on the foreign funding. He stopped millions headed to North Korea just by shutting down some dodgy international banking

Trump has promised to reduce taxes, facilitate mass deportation and continue building his Mexico wall. All of these promises will cost big money and the only plan he has to balance the books is to drill oil and increases China tariffs. I don't think Trump will want/be able to provide Isreal with the level of aid they are uses to. It's a very invisible cost that the majority of Americans don't see so from an optics perspective, it's likely to be the one he reduces.

What he did last time is probably a good guide.

Within the fist couple of months of taking office he gave a joint press conference with Netanyahu in which he announced that the US was no longer committed to a two state solution. He said something along the lines of “whatever Bibi likes”.

He announced that the US would recognose Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, undermining the importance of Jerusalem as a “final status” issue to be decided only as part of a substantive peace deal.

He chose the anniversary of the Nakba to move the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. 1000 people were injured and dozens killed when Israeli forces fired into crowds of protestors.

He gifted Netanyahu a map of Israel with all of the Golan Heights shown as part of Israel (it is not sovereign Israeli territory). Then, being the statesman that he is, he drew an arrow in black sharpie pointing at the Golan Heights annotated with the word “nice!” next to it.

Mike Pompeo announced that the position of the US government was that Israeli settlements in Gaza were not illegal under international law. The UN, EU and almost every major world leader then had to come out to say that yes, they were.

Trump then held Middle East “peace talks” but only with Israel and came up with a peace deal that essentially said that Israel gets to keep all of the settled land, practically all of the Jordan River Valley and had to make no concessions towards creating a Palestinian state. He claimed to have solved the Middle East conflict. It’s surprisingly easy to negotiate peace with only one side in the room, it’s weird that nobody thought of it before.

Israel then annexed loads of land that the UN says is not theirs and settlement building and evictions in the West Bank have continued apace ever since.

God I had forgotten how bad he was, thanks for summary

I believe he will urge Israel to end the war by whatever means necessary.

Yeah, I don't think he has changed.
He's an authoritarian who likes other authoritarians (Netanyahu). He doesn't care about the law and the supreme court told him he needn't worry about any legal consequences for himself.
When he says he'll stop wars it does not mean he wants peace. He certainly wants peace for himself, which means no funerals for the US soldiers. But if biden-bombs will be replaced with the trumps ones, that won't cause him any headache.
Last time he cancelled a negotiated deal with Iran and ordered a strike on Iran's general, that's not exactly a hallmark of a peaceful leader. He may do something like that again.

The only sliver of hope is that Europe might reconsider its 'special relations' with the US and starts acting for its own interest, not just the US's.

And also, you might find this view on Twitter interesting and informative.

So basically no one knows what he'll do.

Pretty much.
I did find it interesting that in his winning speech he made a point to thank his Arab and Muslim voters. Many of whom voted on the premise he would work to end the wars.

Yes noticed that too.

@Takoneko @myearthisflat something that doesn't seem to get much attention is Trump withdrawing from the Iran Nuclear Pact - specifically whether this had any effect to unshackle Iran and it's support to proxies.

And Kushner's dealings with Saudi Arabia to normalise relations with Israel without the recognition of Palestine has probably played a role in stimulating 7/10. So much peacekeeping from the stable genius.

@myearthisflat quite. The Saudi represent a massive defence market for the USA. Potentially a more palatable buffer between Iran/Russia/China

OMG you couldn't find a bigger anti Semite if you tried. Informative it is not.

I'm hoping he won't support using nuclear weapons, but when one of the factors holding him back might be the effects on land and property values, I'm not entirely confident.

Anti-zionist, not antisemite.
At the same time, I don't think I know a single person with whom I'd agree on everything. The point there is that chosen personnel will show you the chosen policy. How is that not informative? Anyway, to me it was.