How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

If they are not popular between doctors in Lebanon , why has a hospital in Lebanon posted today a comment to reject some rumours about the fact they changed the pagers few months ago?

https://x.com/AUBMC_Official/status/1836093048801104379

So killing and injuring innocent Israeli civilians, firing thousands of missiles and incendiaries at Israel and displacing over 100,000 Israelis for nearly a year with a constant stream of attacks while threatening to annihilate them turns out to have consequences? Who knew? If the rest of the world can manage to avoid doing this, I think they can probably stand down from high alert.

In 2024 the use of a pager is not for convenience or anything else other than simply being a means of untraceable communication. Effectively they have shut down a main comms network for people who didn’t want to be traced...

This. Terrorists in the vast majority.

Right so now they’re not all as some posters are saying but vast majority … so the small minority were innocent civilians?

Is that what you think about doctors ?

Hopefully these terrorists are less at least one function.

The new paging system uses mobile phones - as they state themselves, the old pagers had become obsolete:-

"devices and systems had become obsolete".

Which is probably why the Israelis have chosen to activate the system now as they can be fairly confident that no affected pagers are in civilian hands.

Doctors don't use pagers.

Yes, and a small loss of innocent civilians in a conflict zone is acceptable, however regrettable.

Where does it say that they use mobile phones ?

if might be acceptable for you. Not for everyone

"The damage done today to Hezbollah's pager system leaves the group in a vulnerable position, Beirut-based analyst Nicholas Blanford tells me.

He says until Hezbollah is able to "rebuild its comms system", people may not be able to communicate with each other at times of need, and questions what that means for the group over the "coming hours and days".

But Blanford, a fellow at the US-based Atlantic Council, also points out that not all Hezbollah members will use pagers to communicate.

"More senior field officers may not have been affected because they simply do not carry electronic communications devices, relying on messengers." "

From the guardian

Videos of patients, including children, with mangled hands, gaping wounds in their sides and bandaged heads circulated on Lebanese social media. A doctor in Beirut’s Geitawi hospital said the emergency room was tending “several critical patients”.

I know the new system uses mobile phones. The upgrade has been going on for two years with pagers being phased out (as its obsolete tech as stated).

Well ofc, everyone has a different level of acceptance for the vulgarities of war, as is natural.

From bbc

The "vast majority" presenting to emergency rooms are in civilian clothes, he goes on, saying this makes it "very difficult to discern whether they belong to a certain entity like Hezbollah or others".
"But we are seeing among them people who are old or people who are very young, like the child who unfortunately died, and there are some of them who are health care workers."

This might be true if we were talking about normal rules of law. But this is more like a terrorist attack than lawful armed conflict and wouldn't be covered by humanitarian law.

Hezbollah decided to abandon mobiles and move to pagers as phones were being traced by Israel.
They ordered a job lot of pagers for their operatives. This order was intercepted likely in Iran and explosives injected. The pagers then continued on their way to Hezbollah who did not notice and distributed them to their people. After a bit, Israel detonated them. A text message was sent causing many to look at the screens accounting for why so many have eye injuries. Sky news Arabia

Of course not. But If any doctors were using Hezbollah issued pagers then you must ask yourself why…

The Geneva convention says this in regards to protecting civilians📧

Distinction: Parties must always distinguish between combatants and civilians, targeting only military objectives (Article 48, Protocol I).
Proportionality: Attacks should not cause excessive harm to civilians relative to the anticipated military advantage (Article 51, Protocol I).
Precaution: Measures must be taken to minimise harm to civilians, such as using ordinance that targets military assets versus indiscriminate targeting, if feasible (Article 57, Protocol I).

I see nothing in the action Israel has taken today that contravenes the above articles.

Oh that's interesting that they might have been intercepted in Iran. By who? I thought the Iranians supported Hezbollah?

What are these links you're posting? And why are you talking about previous conversations, and acting like you know me?

This thread is about today's despicable terrorist attack by Israel, which has killed at least some, but probably many, innocent civilians.

This thread is not about whatever personal vendetta you have about me

Some children have been injured by this attack. So the first one is already violated as they can’t distinguish whether they’re attacking a militant or a civilian. Whilst they might have not wanted to injure children, they’ve done it , so they couldn’t distinguish who was on the other side of the pager