How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

They are. Every day. Israelis are targeted all the time, all over the world.

Read my previous posts about what I think of any civilians being targeted.
I am not a Hezbollah sympathisers.
I just think that all terrorist activity should be condemned, regardless of the nationality, religion, or ethnicity of the victims. Whether Israeli, Lebanese, or Palestinian.

eye for eye child for child?

Well I don’t think anyone is happy about this.
This is not an eye for an eye.
Shouldn’t we be holding all organisations to account for maintaining the rule of law and not targeting civilians?

What I found very telling about this video on Sky News (warning some may find it distressing) is that after this explosion on the groin of Hezbollah member none of the bystander came to help.

They just stood there and looked at him. So maybe Hezbollah are not that popular with the ordinary civilian population.

news.sky.com/story/explosive-pagers-used-by-hezbollah-had-been-modified-by-israel-at-production-level-reuters-told-by-lebanese-security-sources-13217025

Oh for goodness sake no one thinks it's OK innocent children died or were injured, but let's not pretend they were specifically targeted. Were you on here expressing the same level of concern for the 12 Druze children who were killed by Hezbollah?

The problem with this thread is we have a bunch of posters who seem to have no understanding about who Hezbollah are, how they operate within Lebanon and Syria, and the barbaric cruelty they have inflicted on groups within these communities. Not to mention the fact they want the total annihilation of Israel. (Have you had much to say about this before at all?) If you think Hamas are bad, this lot are next level. And together with their overlord Iran they pose a massive threat to us as well. It is incredibly sad innocent people were caught up in this, but if you're just hand-waving the context of who Hezbollah are - because all you care about is 'Israel bad' - then it's very clear what is motivating your 'argument'.

Nah, you'd be crying about how terrible it was that they went off in the evening. In any type of war, innocents are hurt but this is probably as good as it gets in warfare in terms of not harming civilians or causing destruction to homes and infrastructure.

Hexbollah started a war with Israel. If they REALLY want to save Lebanese civillians, then they'd stop firing rockets into Israel so that 60,000 Israeli residents can return to their homes in northern Israel.

Plus let's not forget the 12 children murdered by Hezbollah in Majdal Shams.

@whataclownshow
Thank you for pointing out the total hypocrisy.
How many Palestinian and Syrian Sunni children do you think Hezbollah might have killed during their time supporting the Assad regime in Syria?
The idea that they are some kind and caring innocents and the Hezbollah pagers (who even uses pagers these days) just randomly fell into their hands is just mad.
The naivete (and knee jerk "if Israel did it it must be terrible") is just stunning!

Because there were 2000+ members of Hezbollah. The device exploded causing injuries and in some cases death to the terrorists who has those specific pagers to communicate with other terrorists.
You are taking as if there were 2000+ innocent people hurt. There wasn’t.

To me it really highlights the sophisticated responses Mossad are capable of, and makes the indiscriminate bombings in Gaza (and the security failure that allowed the Hamas attack to have such a devastating impact on 7th October) even more inexcusable.

How do you intend to hold Hezbollah to account exactly? 😂
Write a petition? 😂

Or disable thousands of the fighters so they can't fire missiles into Israel?

In contrast to the Palestinians who do have a legitimate conflict with Israel and with whom (hopefully sooner rather than later) there will need to be compromise and agreement, what does Hezbollah want? Israel IS NOT IN LEBANON! There is ZERO conflict with Lebanon other than what Hezbollah are creating.

It’s not a targeted attack

Is this satire?

I think that's very true. Israel has shown time and time again that it IS capable of precision attacks and very high intelligence capability.

The intellgience failure of 7/10 was due to pure arrogance. They had the information but didn't connect the dots because they thought they knew (wrongly) what Hamas was planning.

I saw a documentary with the Israel field observer soldiers (nearly all young women conscripts, many killed or kdinapped on 7/10). They were reporting all the time what Hamas was planning but it was ignored or dismissed by the higher levels.

You’re taking as 100% of those injured were terrorists. It wasn’t either.

edit.as I mixed usernames so some bit didn’t apply

Agree they can target In Lebanon but they can’t in Gaza and they’re doing many similar things in West Bank?

Mossad is bloody terrifying, which is I suppose the point of them

Ugh. I will withdraw from this thread because it’s just so depressing.
As someone who actually knows quite a bit about Hezbollah, and has never sympathised with any terrorist group, I find it depressing that so many people are unwilling to have the same level of humanity towards some groups (Lebanese, Palestinians) as they do towards others.
I want people on all sides of this conflict to have peace, health, happiness, etc.
But there are many people on here who will just blindly support what Israel does.
Nobody is going around supporting Hezbollah in that way, nor should they. But we should all have some level of humanity in us to know what is right vs wrong, even if Israel is the perpetrator and not a labelled terrorist organisation.

As someone who actually knows quite a bit about Hezbollah

your posts really don’t reflect this, at all.

People on mumsnet get worried when someone knocks on their door but some how lots of posters can't seem to see the terror that 1000s of 'tiny' explosions happening across the country would bring. The fear and psychological damage to many innocent people that would inevitably come along with that.

If a 'tiny' explosion happened beside when they were queuing in the supermarket then another one when they were in the bus to get their kids from school they would just wipe the blood from their face, pull the fragments out of their hair and ask their kids if they fancy fish fingers for dinner tonight. No stress, no worries,no harm.

I absolutely hate the verging on "joky" tone of much of the news coverage. Absolutely repulsive to say things like "they'll be attacking fax machines next" Shocking.

I find this absolutely remarkable. Honestly when I read this in the paper I had no idea it was even possible. If Israel was behind this they are in a league of their own militarily surely?!

@AhaHa Not sure you know as much about Hezbollah as you think you do.
i don't see anyone blindly supporting Israel. But it's much simpler to support Israel when it comes to a very targeted attack against Hezbollah who are the ones who started the war and have NO reason to do so since Israel withdrew from every cm of Lebanese land more than 20 years ago. In fact, while I thought it was the right thing to do at the time, one does wonder if current events haven't show that Israel was justified in holding a security zone in southern Lebanon to protect its northern border from Hezbollah attack.

I thought you were arguing it wasn't targeted? Confusing.

Indeed, it isn't veyr nice for those arond. But if it prevents the terror of Israeli residents exposed to Hezbollah rockets and drones for almost a year now for no reason other than to cause terror and has already killed many, including children, then it's jsutified.