Protesters drape Westfield Stratford in colossal Palestinian flag

[Oystercavity]

Not acceptable in a family environment. There is a time and a place.

Well done to the shopping centre in dealing with this so smoothly:

"A spokesperson for the London shopping centre said: “Westfield London and Westfield Stratford City are busy family-centric destinations and to ensure a safe and inclusive environment for all our visitors, we do not facilitate protests within our centres."

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/protesters-drape-westfield-stratford-in-colossal-palestinian-flag-lw9ma1jo

You’d like it to be incorrect, but you know it’s not.

The striking difference is UK gov and industry are not actively supporting what you’ve mentioned. They are not actively defunding UN aid helping the innocents caught in the crossfire. The are not actively backed by the UK.

You want to claim protesters are antisemitic so you could have some footing to justify why you think it’s right to kill 18k children and starve and displace 2million people, who are not even allowed independent access to water during ‘peacetime’.

What speaks volumes is you’re obviously more bothered about equality for war criminals.

This.

So what, you agree? Everyone should shut up about the Gaza genocide?

My goodness you are really making it up now. 🙄😂

My 'refusal' to condemn.... where on earth did you get that from. Baybe you might quote where I have refused to condemn?

Baybe you might quote where I have refused to condemn?

how can I quote something that doesn’t exist?

but thank you for making my point!

Is it even worth bothering to answer thus rubbish. 🤔 either a new poster or a name change but the rubbish you are saying. Fortunately, I pay no stock to some random online and their invented rubbish.

😂nope, incorrect.

You said that I refused to condemn that's clearly not true since I've never refused to condemn. I've called out various actions on various threads.

and now you’re reverting to suggesting there are sock puppets in the thread.

diversion after diversion - such desperation!

yet still no condemnation of the genocide…..

I’m not stalking you on other threads so no idea what you have said . But the opportunity has presented itself here for you to condemn the terrorist actions of the Israeli government yet you have expressed more concern at flags falling on cars.

suggest if you really have made comments condemning the actions of Netanyahu et al that you repeated them here. Would be helpful and appreciated!

I know you cannot find anywhere I've refused to condemn. You also ignore where I have condemned actions .

I'm not desperate I'm bored of this round and round. Meanwhile the conflict goes on, hostages are still held, innocents still die. You achieve nothing attempting to goad me. I won't react and get a deleted post. I'll just ignore you. I'll rise above it.

I’m just asking if you’re prepared to condemn the actions of the Israeli government. On this thread you have not.

that is a refusal to condemn.

im not sure why you are struggling with this rather simple concept?? 🤣🤣

Nope, incorrect. I’ve been around a long time.

You can’t pay stock because you have no stock. Hope the chat helped.

There has been so much protest about Yemen! So ignorant to suggest there hasn't. The reason for these protests being so much more frequent and visible is this genocide has been way more severe way more quickly. And because western support for saudi arabia has always been more covert, so less people know about it, whereas western support for israel is very explicit and well known. And because saudi arabia doesn't claim to be a beacon of liberal democracy. And because while there is severe oppression and horrific human rights abuses within SA and they are committing horrific war crimes in their war on Yemen, there isn't an occupation and it isn't an apartheid state - these are other things that mean Israel has historically attracted more attention.

Lots of reasons which don't have to mean antisemitism.

'On this thread' , there you have it. 'On this thread' a thread about flags being dropped, drapped etc. In case you are new, rather than a name change, there are different threads that have different topics. People can get a tad annoyed if you don't follow the topic, unless it suits them of course. Go tootle along to threads about the IDF and their actions and check it out.

So you now realise that I have condemned on appropriate threads and you now reduce to I've never condemned "on this thread'. Oh my its laughable 😂

You crack on; I've work in the morning.

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Totally agree with this.

Your perspective is seriously warped OP, given the thousands of innocent Palestinians, mostly children, being tortured and murdered by Israel. The flag and protest is designed to raise awareness of this shocking situation so that people will put pressure on their public representatives to take action in support of Palestine.

How inconvenient for the shoppers! Boo hoo! 🙄

@US2gether

im not going though your other posts on other threads

but perhaps your understanding of condemn is very different to mine?

I unequivocally condemn the abhorrent actions of Hamas On 7 October. But I think what israel is doing to the Palestinians in revenge now is significantly worse given the casualty levels and the IDF depravity displayed on numerous occasions.

thank goodness a flag was displayed at a shopping centre. It keeps a light shining on the war crimes of Israel.

Very arrogant comment. Creating awareness is useless eh? You typed that whilst sitting in the peaceful comfort of your own home whilst there is a genocide taking place. Be better

I'd argue the use of flags worked.

It got people talking here on this thread. Perhaps it started a conversation at home for someone, maybe they read more about what's happening so they could become more information. Maybe they lobby their MPs to advocate for peace.

Non violent protests such as flag demos have always been used and are often a positive thing.

So what would you call it then?

Very sad that this is what a lot of racists want. The protestors who want an end to this real life horror movie get called "terrorist enablers" or "hamas sympathisers". LITERALLY shall we just watch in silence?????? Humanity has failed.

I would find it hard to be outraged about a public display of the flag of an occupied and oppressed people. Especially when tens of thousands of people from that population are dead or missing, many thousands more have suffered life-changing trauma, food and water supplies are at risk, and a substantial proportion of people cannot have the choice to flee to relative safety even if they wanted to leave their own homes.

I also don't feel particularly outraged if a private business decides to have a policy of no protests/demonstrations or political events. People can choose what to do (within the law) with their own business premises.

In a debate, I tend to provide concrete evidence to counter argue a point.
Ad Hominem arguments are not part of a debate,

Genocide has a specific definition and is just being used as a social media buzzword in this context. I would call it a war, and I would accept there is a possibility that war crimes have been committed.

You have produced a list of reasons why this conflict is worse, but I think it would be easy to do the same for Yemen. The difference in popular interest in the two wars is enormous and disproportionate to any material differences between them. I’m not sure if the reason for this is anti-semitism, or left v right, or something else, but it’s worth thinking about.