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Conflict in the Middle East

Protesters drape Westfield Stratford in colossal Palestinian flag

151 replies

Oystercavity · 10/07/2024 12:42

Not acceptable in a family environment. There is a time and a place.

Well done to the shopping centre in dealing with this so smoothly:

"A spokesperson for the London shopping centre said: “Westfield London and Westfield Stratford City are busy family-centric destinations and to ensure a safe and inclusive environment for all our visitors, we do not facilitate protests within our centres."

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/protesters-drape-westfield-stratford-in-colossal-palestinian-flag-lw9ma1jo

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Scautish · 10/07/2024 17:50

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Comedycook · 10/07/2024 17:55

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But draping the flag around in the UK as a protest isn't really achieving anything ....it won't change a single thing in the middle east. All it does is increase division within the UK.

Finallyloggedin · 10/07/2024 18:04

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 17:55

But draping the flag around in the UK as a protest isn't really achieving anything ....it won't change a single thing in the middle east. All it does is increase division within the UK.

What, between people who don’t like a genocide being committed with government backing and those who do?

This is the point, if people really knew what was going on in Gaza then the vast, vast majority of the uk would be appalled. That’s why some people seek to hide it and there is lots of faux outrage about certain events. it’s all to detract attention from the genocide taking place which the uk are complicit in.

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 18:09

Finallyloggedin · 10/07/2024 18:04

What, between people who don’t like a genocide being committed with government backing and those who do?

This is the point, if people really knew what was going on in Gaza then the vast, vast majority of the uk would be appalled. That’s why some people seek to hide it and there is lots of faux outrage about certain events. it’s all to detract attention from the genocide taking place which the uk are complicit in.

And once again, the British publics views and opinions on this are pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Finallyloggedin · 10/07/2024 18:13

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 18:09

And once again, the British publics views and opinions on this are pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

No they are not, government ministers are meant to be servants of the people they represent. As well as act within UK and international law - I.e. not supply weapons or parts to countries committing genocide.

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 18:19

Finallyloggedin · 10/07/2024 18:13

No they are not, government ministers are meant to be servants of the people they represent. As well as act within UK and international law - I.e. not supply weapons or parts to countries committing genocide.

And what have all these protests and marches achieved so far?

Finallyloggedin · 10/07/2024 18:22

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Comedycook · 10/07/2024 17:55

But draping the flag around in the UK as a protest isn't really achieving anything ....it won't change a single thing in the middle east. All it does is increase division within the UK.

It might make a difference in UK. It's a form of direct action, and shops are removing Israeli produce from their stock as a result of peaceful protestors. In my nearest city Lidl, Home Bargains and a few other places have stopped putting out certain products that have been highlighted to have been made in Israel. Some customers were previously unaware, and have stopped buying as a result. Some shops, cafes etc are now advertising themselves as "apartheid free" as they make a conscious effort not to contribute to the genocide.

Scautish · 10/07/2024 18:33

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 17:55

But draping the flag around in the UK as a protest isn't really achieving anything ....it won't change a single thing in the middle east. All it does is increase division within the UK.

So why did the OP start a thread about the flag? If she/he thought it was so innocuous then it wouldn’t have occurred to her/him to write anything

the flag is important. It keep Palestine and Palestinians in peoples mind. Exactly like all the Ukrainian flags did.

and hopefully all the nasty little racists will start realising that the public are not with them. The Israeli government is committing genocide (and has been for years) and this fact needs to be repeated over and over until it stops and the perpetrators are brought to justice.

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Martymcfly24 · 10/07/2024 20:33

Oystercavity · 10/07/2024 17:30

People are talking all right.

Have you read the comments on The Daily Mail and Telegraph articles every time protests and marches are reported?

Are you being serious. Because if you are on the opposing side to the Daily Mail comment section you are on the right side of history.

I truly believe when this conflict is being studied in history class in the future those comments will be studied for their absolute racism and general heartlessness.

No idea what the Telegraph is I am Irish and the commentary here will always favour the oppressed Palestinians.

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:36

I'm not sure why anyone does this or thinks we have any influence in the middle east anymore.

Britain is not a colonial entity anymore and we have no influence. What's the point of these protests.

ConnieCounter · 10/07/2024 20:36

Martymcfly24 · 10/07/2024 20:33

Are you being serious. Because if you are on the opposing side to the Daily Mail comment section you are on the right side of history.

I truly believe when this conflict is being studied in history class in the future those comments will be studied for their absolute racism and general heartlessness.

No idea what the Telegraph is I am Irish and the commentary here will always favour the oppressed Palestinians.

The Telegraph is a pro-Tory rag. I wouldn't expect anything but hateful nonsense in the comment section. I don't read it because I try to steer clear of dickheads wherever possible.

Auvergne63 · 10/07/2024 20:39

US2gether · 10/07/2024 17:19

Tell me how British people in a shopping centre caused all of that? Seriously drapping flags over everything isn't the answer.

The British government is selling weapons used to kill, maim and destroy.
They are part of this.

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:39

the flag is important. It keep Palestine and Palestinians in peoples mind. Exactly like all the Ukrainian flags did

What has draping Ukrainian flags everywhere done? That's right. Nothing.

Why doesn't everyone go to Israel to protest the cause or Ukraine. Funny that.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 10/07/2024 20:40

Stratford is a privately owned commercial premises and will do what they like to keep people on-site and shopping. The protesters are showing their naivety imo.

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:40

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Auvergne63 · 10/07/2024 20:43

US2gether · 10/07/2024 17:34

Those same people didn't give a toss when hundreds of thousands were killed in Yeman, or other areas.

You can care for different causes at the same time, you know.
By the way, care to explain who you mean by "those same people", please?

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:44

Auvergne63 · 10/07/2024 20:43

You can care for different causes at the same time, you know.
By the way, care to explain who you mean by "those same people", please?

Those same people are those protesting.

They don't protest Yemen as Jews aren't doing that - they just leave them to it.

Auvergne63 · 10/07/2024 20:48

Comedycook · 10/07/2024 17:55

But draping the flag around in the UK as a protest isn't really achieving anything ....it won't change a single thing in the middle east. All it does is increase division within the UK.

It put the spotlight on the Palestinian suffering. It makes people talk. We are doing this now, aren't we?
Some might even want to find out more about what is being inflicted on these people in the name of self defence.

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:49

I hope the protesters never get what they want. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east.

If you succeed in your campaign, there'll he another Arab failed state ruled by a proscribed terrorist group.

US2gether · 10/07/2024 20:49

Auvergne63 · 10/07/2024 20:43

You can care for different causes at the same time, you know.
By the way, care to explain who you mean by "those same people", please?

Those same people who drap flags over motorway bridges, spray graffiti on statues, chant intifada revolution, they weren't seen during the slaughter of Yemenis, Kurdish, Rohinga, Iraqi Turkmen, Yezidis, Darfur, Houtis, etc etc. I was around and recall nothing much. But Jewish people require different reactions 🙄

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:50

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Scautish · 10/07/2024 20:55

Oh the blatant racists are back trying to tell us that nothing is happening and we shouldn’t be drawing attention to the fact that actually genocide is being committed by the Israeli government

Palestinian flags will continue to fly.

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 20:56

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do you know the other poster to know what they did or didn’t 20 years ago? Accusing them of lying ? Or it doesn’t suit your narrative and want to use the antisemitism card?

HowIrresponsible · 10/07/2024 20:58

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 20:56

do you know the other poster to know what they did or didn’t 20 years ago? Accusing them of lying ? Or it doesn’t suit your narrative and want to use the antisemitism card?

How is it not antisemitism to ignore every other unjust war where people are killed and oppressed and only protest the one the Jews are involved in.

What is it?