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Conflict in the Middle East

Boycotting Israeli products/services

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the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 15:54

I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

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EasterIssland · 21/06/2024 12:02

SharonEllis · 21/06/2024 11:45

This is absolutely outrageous, nonsensical lies. Reported.

Can you point out what the poster has said that are lies please ?

Settlers there are multiple news but I’ll provide this one as one of the latest ones
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/20/idf-transfers-powers-in-occupied-west-bank-to-pro-settler-civil-servants

children amputated without anhestesia
anaesthesia
https://www.savethechildren.net/news/gaza-more-10-children-day-lose-limb-three-months-brutal-conflict#:~:text=Many%20of%20these%20operations%20on,World%20Health%20Organization%20(WHO).
concentration camps https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html

food and water. I’ll leave this link as it’s from today
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd119dz515wo

can you let me know what outrageous lies the other poster has said please ? Thabks

Emaciated boy

Gaza's broken water system crippling children with sickness

Palestinian children are ending up severely ill from dehydration and drinking contaminated water.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd119dz515wo

SharonEllis · 21/06/2024 12:11

Its very hard to believe @EasterIssland that you can't spot the straight lies

1.'What Israel is doing now has surpassed the holocaust'

  1. 'Concentration camps with the worst torture recorded.'
  2. 'The occupying state Israel has full control of Gaza and steals land and property whenever.'

The other things are horrific but tragically typical of wars. I'd be amazed if there was ever a war where procedures were not done without anaesthetic. Its a terrible situation for civilians but Hamas share the blame for much of that context so the hysteria about Israel being the worst ever in history is misplaced and briadly speaking innaccurate.

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MoMo999 · 21/06/2024 12:16

SharonEllis · 21/06/2024 06:55

No Israel is not being tried for genocide. The ICC's prosecutor has requested arrest warrants for both Israeli & Hamas leaders and has issued statements (not sure of their exact legal status) on how Israel conducts the war. There is currently no trial.

That is separate. Israel is being tried for genocide by the ICJ in a case being prosecuted by S. Africa, Ireland and now several European countries. The ICJ prosecutes at a country level, the ICC has separately asked for arrest warrants on an individual level. Clearly you don't know the facts

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No, the holocaust, genocide torture etc have definitions. They are not subjective, either in language or law.This is not a matter of opinion. 6 million entirely innocent Jews died in the holocaust which was a systematic strategic attempt to remove Jews from the face of the earth. No sane person is going to say that this war, started by Hamas, horrible as it is, surpasses the holocaust. The passage of time does nothing to diminish the horror of the holocaust. I'm deeply
disturbed that you think it does.

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And you seem intent on writing the most ludicrous, hate-filled nonsense that you can possibly think of. (Or perhaps you have entered a competition to see who can think of most adjectives beginning with hor-.) You obviously haven’t read much history.

Your conviction that the Israelis could easily locate the abducted hostages if they wanted to is so ridiculous it would be funny if it wasn’t so offensive. Perhaps you imagine that all Israelis (even the abducted babies and people in their 70s) are implanted with microchips? Or give off a particular smell? Or magic rays? What exactly is it that you imagine?

I expect you agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene and her conspiracy theory about "Jewish space lasers". Do please keep going, because your every word makes it clearer that you have a motive far removed from concern about the poor victims of this war.

I wonder what it could possibly be…

MoMo999 · 21/06/2024 12:35

keenforhelp · 21/06/2024 11:00

If you did not read the last two pages then are you saying that "Anyone who attempts to justify the death of innocent people in Gaza, and the destruction of their homeland, and then complains about the peaceful action of boycotting, is clearly acting from a biased perspective."

Absolutely NOBODY has even remotely suggested anything like this. What they have done is that they object to the hypocritical boycotting of Israeli goods and services whilst ignoring the plight of other countries who intentionally kill other people and strangely focus directly and solely on a country desperately trying to prevent annihilation from another country's expressed intention.

That is a biased position using whataboutery. Just because you can't do everything it does not mean, you can't do somethings. I find that position aburd. Do you tell people who campaign to save the Amazon rainforest that they should campaign for all trees? How can they be serious when they did not help the Police investigate investigate what happened to the Sycamore Gap?

The situation in the Middle East is on the news almost every day. No wonder it is high in people's consciousness. I bet Zelensky is looking on in wonder as Ukraine only gets the occasional mention these days, despite them actually being on the front line of fighting the real threat to Europe

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You literally said the magnitude of the holocaust was a matter of opinion and it is difficult to compare something that hapoened 80 years ago with today. It is not, on this occasion.

EasterIssland · 21/06/2024 12:37

SharonEllis · 21/06/2024 12:11

Its very hard to believe @EasterIssland that you can't spot the straight lies

1.'What Israel is doing now has surpassed the holocaust'

  1. 'Concentration camps with the worst torture recorded.'
  2. 'The occupying state Israel has full control of Gaza and steals land and property whenever.'

The other things are horrific but tragically typical of wars. I'd be amazed if there was ever a war where procedures were not done without anaesthetic. Its a terrible situation for civilians but Hamas share the blame for much of that context so the hysteria about Israel being the worst ever in history is misplaced and briadly speaking innaccurate.

This is where I’ve stopped reading your comment

“The other things are horrific but tragically typical of wars. “

Not many countries are on the list of countries that commit crimes against children. Israel is on the list. This is more than a war as you describe it

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DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 21/06/2024 13:16

Luckily there are limits to boycotts.

Germany is recognizing the extremism within BDS.

The France ban was illegal.

https://www.politico.eu/article/paris-court-overturns-israeli-ban-from-french-arms-show/

The great irony being that Macron uses - you guessed it - Israelis in his own security team.

Of course, if you want to boycott Israeli goods because you want to protest their government that's fine.

The problem is, it's feeding into violence against Jews in the West.

If you don't care that's happening, okay. At least have the courage of your convictions to admit the truth - you don't care about Jews.

Why are so many domestic politicians basing their campaign solely on Gaza?

Do they have nothing to say about Health, Education, the Economy, British values, Housing...why is that?

Why so obsessed with Israel?

Sudan barely gets a mention.

Paris court overturns France’s arms show ban on Israeli firms

The ban soured relations with Israel.

https://www.politico.eu/article/paris-court-overturns-israeli-ban-from-french-arms-show

Sussurations · 21/06/2024 13:16

The Holocaust is not subjective nor has its horror altered with time. It was literally called the ‘Final Solution’ to the ‘Jewish Problem’.
1.5 million children were murdered during the Holocaust. Shame on you.

sparkleowl · 21/06/2024 13:18

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/06/2024 23:18

Wait, so I thought your view was Hamas started the war by doing an act of war on Oct 7th, so the massacres would also have been war, are you now saying Hamas attack wasn’t an act of war and Israel started the current war? Because you can’t have it both ways.

I have no idea why you’re pretending to be mixed up or misunderstanding anything I have posted.
It’s obvious to the world that hamas started the conflict by their barbaric massacre of Israeli citizens, children and babies, as well as murdering young people at the music festival and taking so many hostages including children, many of which are now dead.
I won’t be engaging with you on any other posts on this subject.

sparkleowl · 21/06/2024 13:24

Buntycat · 21/06/2024 12:30

And you seem intent on writing the most ludicrous, hate-filled nonsense that you can possibly think of. (Or perhaps you have entered a competition to see who can think of most adjectives beginning with hor-.) You obviously haven’t read much history.

Your conviction that the Israelis could easily locate the abducted hostages if they wanted to is so ridiculous it would be funny if it wasn’t so offensive. Perhaps you imagine that all Israelis (even the abducted babies and people in their 70s) are implanted with microchips? Or give off a particular smell? Or magic rays? What exactly is it that you imagine?

I expect you agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene and her conspiracy theory about "Jewish space lasers". Do please keep going, because your every word makes it clearer that you have a motive far removed from concern about the poor victims of this war.

I wonder what it could possibly be…

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Your comment to OneGreen Player is spot on, well said!

sparkleowl · 21/06/2024 13:39

EasterIssland · 21/06/2024 10:32

I feel boycotting Israels products makes some people uncomfortable hence the full derailment of this thread. I

like another poster said do as little as much as you are comfortable with, even if it’s Israeli carrots

It doesn’t make me in the least uncomfortable, I think it’s their choice to boycott any goods from anywhere, but there are so many conflicts going on in the world I wonder what if anything else they boycott?
This war is emotional as most wars are and I expect we all want to see an end to it with the hostages released and peace for Gaza.There will be rebuilding there and a governing body who aren’t a terrorist group installed.

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Were no babies and children killed during the holocaust? You now when they were sent into gas chambers or shot on the spot. You're just being hyperbolic. What Israel is doing is NOT specific, intentional and targeted.

Israel is the battering ram for all the virtue signallers to pile onto. In short, grow up.

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What do you mean "the majority of the world sees through this"? More hyperbole, more dramatics.

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Result.

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An excellent series of posts from your PearlKoala. I think it is important to call out the real hypocrisy here and not let this thread, which is about boycotting Israel, be derailed as many others have said

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