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Conflict in the Middle East

Boycotting Israeli products/services

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the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 15:54

I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

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Noonecares245 · 18/06/2024 21:19

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the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 21:19

Sunshineonasameyday · 18/06/2024 21:15

The bottom line is if Israel falls it gives carte blanche for the genocide of Jews globally. The tensions are bubbling in every corner of the world right now and this conflict is no longer just about Gaza.

Where globally do people want to execute Jews?
I wouldn’t see Israel withdrawing as “falling”, they could simply state they have taken a different position?

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Sunshineonasameyday · 18/06/2024 21:20

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Palestine isn't standing up for themselves though.

Please read up on the history of Hamas. Please look into where the Palestinian people reside.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:20

Sweetpea333 · 18/06/2024 21:14

What has Israel done wrong? They were attacked first! Why is it so acceptable to be anti Israel but everyone's terrified of offending other religions and cultures?

Oh good god, what have Israel done wrong? Hamas attacked first?

Please go educate yourself and then rejoin the debate, you're taking up space in this thread.

Bumble6 · 18/06/2024 21:20

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Do you not think Hamas are terrorists?

Comedycook · 18/06/2024 21:20

The MO seems to be to deflect or to scream antisemitism

Why, when this argument is being used, are the verbs used invariably "scream, shout or cry" anti semitism?

Buntycat · 18/06/2024 21:21

If the Israelis really wanted to "systematically wipe out" the Palestinians they could have done so in a couple of weeks!

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:23

Comedycook · 18/06/2024 21:20

The MO seems to be to deflect or to scream antisemitism

Why, when this argument is being used, are the verbs used invariably "scream, shout or cry" anti semitism?

Because this is what I, and others in my country, have been subjected to. Screaming and shouting.

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:23

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Noonecares245 · 18/06/2024 21:23

Buntycat · 18/06/2024 21:21

If the Israelis really wanted to "systematically wipe out" the Palestinians they could have done so in a couple of weeks!

No, they're trying their best. They just didn't anticipate that most would see through the BS they have been feeding the world.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:24

@fluffy90 please give reliable sources for the rubbish you say is being taught in Palestinian school.

Noonecares245 · 18/06/2024 21:24

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Please provide evidence of this claim. This is an outrageous accusation and I can 100% guarantee you won't be able to back this up with any evidence.

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:25

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:24

@fluffy90 please give reliable sources for the rubbish you say is being taught in Palestinian school.

The majority of childrne in Gaza attend schools that are run by Hamas, a terrorist organisation. What on earth do you think they're being taught there?

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:26

Noonecares245 · 18/06/2024 21:24

Please provide evidence of this claim. This is an outrageous accusation and I can 100% guarantee you won't be able to back this up with any evidence.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2020-03-10/debates/C9D591A4-1B68-4D6B-8AD3-5BBC90398051/PalestinianSchoolCurriculumRadicalisation#:~:text=After%20examining%20202%20textbooks%20from,peace%20with%20Israel%20is%20rejected%E2%80%9D.

Comedycook · 18/06/2024 21:26

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:23

Because this is what I, and others in my country, have been subjected to. Screaming and shouting.

I was told on these boards, not by yourself, that I was "screaming" at a poster and calling them anti semetic. I hadn't called them that...nor screamed at them. How on earth you scream at someone when typing words is beyond me. But yes, these language nuances matter. The continual use by many people of the words scream, shout, and cry when describing written words is unnecessary

the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 21:27

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:25

The majority of childrne in Gaza attend schools that are run by Hamas, a terrorist organisation. What on earth do you think they're being taught there?

Ok so if for argument’s sake we day that is taught there.

Hamas don’t have the means to kill Jews in any significant numbers, if they did they’d be better able to defend Gaza id assume?

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fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:27

After examining 202 textbooks from the current curriculum, IMPACT-se found,
“a systematic insertion of violence, martyrdom and jihad across all grades and subjects”,
where,
“the possibility of peace with Israel is rejected”.

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:28

the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 21:27

Ok so if for argument’s sake we day that is taught there.

Hamas don’t have the means to kill Jews in any significant numbers, if they did they’d be better able to defend Gaza id assume?

Well, it was violent indoctrination that led to October 7th, so they're certainly not unarmed, harmless zealots.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:28

@fluffy90 that references comments made by someone in the UK Parliament, heresay if you will.

Do you have a more reliable source?

Sweetpea333 · 18/06/2024 21:28

@HelpAGirlOut1234 Did you see what those c**s Hamas did?? Was Israel supposed to shrug it off. Telling someone who disagrees with you to disappear says a lot about you and your anti semitic bollocks.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:29

fluffy90 · 18/06/2024 21:27

After examining 202 textbooks from the current curriculum, IMPACT-se found,
“a systematic insertion of violence, martyrdom and jihad across all grades and subjects”,
where,
“the possibility of peace with Israel is rejected”.

As per my last comment, this is heresay, do you have a more credible source.

Again, not goading posters, trying to educate myself

Polka83 · 18/06/2024 21:29

Sunshineonasameyday · 18/06/2024 20:47

It's not for me to say what Israel should or shouldn't do, that is for the peace brokers to determine. Israel is a politically conservative but socially liberal nation, it is unsurprising they vote in right wing governments while under siege they see it as the solution to the very real threat they face. Equally many condemn their government.

I counter your comment with if the Palestinian people want peace why aren't they rising up against Hamas? This war could be stopped and peace brokered if they wanted it, but they don't. They want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

It’s not up to you say what Israel should or should not do, but you’re happy to say what people should or should not boycott? In a Democratic country people can vote in right wing politicians who make genocidal comments, but you cannot comment on this - but you can criticise people for boycotting this country?

You haven’t addressed the actions of the settlers-
Israeli citizens- against Palestinians in the West Bank and willingness of Israelis to live in occupied territories.

Can you think of any reason to why people being starved and bombed can’t uprise against a terrorist organisation? Like - possibly staying trying to stay alive?

Vittuunterroristit · 18/06/2024 21:30

the7Vabo · 18/06/2024 21:27

Ok so if for argument’s sake we day that is taught there.

Hamas don’t have the means to kill Jews in any significant numbers, if they did they’d be better able to defend Gaza id assume?

1139 isn't a significant number?

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 18/06/2024 21:30

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