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Conflict in the Middle East

repairing Israel’s destruction of Gaza will come at huge climate cost

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EasterIssland · 07/06/2024 04:41

The carbon cost of rebuilding Gaza will be greater than the annual greenhouse gas emissions generated individually by 135 countries

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/06/rebuilding-gaza-climate-cost

Revealed: repairing Israel’s destruction of Gaza will come at huge climate cost

Reconstructing buildings destroyed in first four months of Israeli assault will generate nearly 60m tonnes of CO2 equivalent – study

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/06/rebuilding-gaza-climate-cost

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poshsnobtwit · 19/07/2024 23:52

What genocide by the way. Gazas population has hugely increased over the last few years

Genocide has absolutely nothing to do with how big the population is, it is regarding intent. (You are supposed to be a solicitor, surely you check facts before posting?!) The genocide - as recognized by law - of Bosniak Muslims in Srebenica constituted only around 0.5% of the population. I was reading the ICT report and interestingly the exact same narrative that we are hearing today regarding genocide in Gaza was exactly the same narrative that the Former Yugoslavs used to attempt to deny and shut down the investigation. Such as, but not limited to:

  • it was only a tiny percentage of the population
  • their birth rate was high prior
  • they were 'casualties of war'
  • they (Serbs) were retaliating for previous provocations and acted in 'the heat of passion'

Evidence to arrive at the genocide verdict included exhumed victims from mass graves having their hands tied and bullets to the back of the head. It immediately made me think of the scene at Shifa hospital. God willing justice will be done for the Palestinian people.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 20/07/2024 00:19

HowIrresponsible · 19/07/2024 22:56

She doesn't have to take it anywhere else.

What genocide by the way. Gazas population has hugely increased over the last few years.

I'm fed of people defending this lot- they're losing a war they started.

They were offered a state 75 years ago, rejected it and lost the war they started.

How does it make them victims to lose wars they keep starting.

If they did get rid of Israel (they won't by the way) it will just be another Arab failed state a la Syria. There won't be a benevolent democracy in Israels place. Hamas is a brutal regime and you better hope they never succeed.

So much racism in one comment! This is far beyond 'losing another war they started' (where did I read that before, I wonder?). Israel chose to drop more bombs on Gaza in 9 months than on London, Dresden and Hamburg during the entirety of WW2. Neither Hamas, nor the civilians of Gaza made the IDF do that and we are all going to pay the price due to the environmental impact it's causing. And it has already been mentioned to you that genocide is not about population growth/decline, although I doubt that population of Gaza is growing right now. You're obviously another person who has mistaken Mumsnet for Twitter. You can take that elsewhere, too.

Auvergne63 · 20/07/2024 08:02

HowIrresponsible · 19/07/2024 22:56

She doesn't have to take it anywhere else.

What genocide by the way. Gazas population has hugely increased over the last few years.

I'm fed of people defending this lot- they're losing a war they started.

They were offered a state 75 years ago, rejected it and lost the war they started.

How does it make them victims to lose wars they keep starting.

If they did get rid of Israel (they won't by the way) it will just be another Arab failed state a la Syria. There won't be a benevolent democracy in Israels place. Hamas is a brutal regime and you better hope they never succeed.

Just imagine I had written this post, regarding the Israeli/ Jewish people, I would have been accused of being antisemitic (and rightly so). My post would have been deleted too (again rightly so).
Your post is Islamophobic. It is unacceptable.

Dulra · 20/07/2024 08:49

Scirocco · 19/07/2024 23:09

Talking about the climate cost of a war isn't about sides, it's about the planet.

War is a manmade environmental disaster as well as a humanitarian one, and there are consequences that will affect people around the world; even people who might never have even heard of Israel or Palestine.

The costs of making, shipping and then using weapons of such destructive force go far beyond money. We're all going to be the victims of climate change if we don't start taking it seriously and considering how our actions impact upon the world.

We're all going to be the victims of climate change if we don't start taking it seriously and considering how our actions impact upon the world.

Sadly I don't think the human race is capable of this and those that are and trying to do something about it are ridiculed and dismissed. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for making changes if it effects people's pockets or lifestyles.

Dulra · 20/07/2024 08:52

Auvergne63 · 20/07/2024 08:02

Just imagine I had written this post, regarding the Israeli/ Jewish people, I would have been accused of being antisemitic (and rightly so). My post would have been deleted too (again rightly so).
Your post is Islamophobic. It is unacceptable.

The fact that someone thinks a reasonable defence of genocide is they haven't killed all Palestinians and sure wasn't there loads of them to begin with is frightening.

Auvergne63 · 20/07/2024 09:03

Dulra · 20/07/2024 08:52

The fact that someone thinks a reasonable defence of genocide is they haven't killed all Palestinians and sure wasn't there loads of them to begin with is frightening.

It is. This type of counter argument also shows a lack of understanding of what constitutes a genocide.

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