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Conflict in the Middle East

All Eyes on Rafah

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Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:16

It’s just beyond awful. The idf have dropped leaflets telling Palestinians to move. There is no where for them to go. This is beyond awful. More children will be blown apart, more families destroyed and all for what? Sick beyond what I ever imagined.

The idf have no plan apart from indiscriminate killing.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1789184916670013731?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/drtruthe/status/1789311217259139492?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog - this image is very disturbing. I don’t want to upset anyone. The people who really need to see it are those still defending the actions of Israel. And I can show them thousands more images if they think this is an unfortunate isolated incident. This is what idf WANT to do. It is the purpose of the bombs.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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BelleHathor · 13/07/2024 19:17

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:07

They often seem to commit their massacres over the weekend too, don’t they? When westerners may be distracted.

Remember when it was the Super Bowl and they killed lots of people?

Yup, this one seems to be to disrupt the negotiations, because if Hamas withdraws from the negotiations due to this massacre then failure can be blamed on them, convenient for Netanyahu. Poor Gazans are just pawns in this sick game.
In the other thread about Olmerts article he referred to peace forces in Gaza from neighbouring countries approved by Israel. Hamas won't agree to this as it amounts to occupation by the back door.

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:21

Many supporters of Israeli actions characterise the genocide in Gaza as a ‘war’ rather than a ‘genocide’. I don’t agree with this, I believe it’s a genocide.

But, for the people who believe it’s a war, then I guess that it’s Israel against Hamas. You will say that killing top Hamas commanders (if it even happened) can justify the death of countless civilians, as it’s so important to destroy Hamas.

So tell me, does this work both ways? I.e. if Hamas knew that Netanyahu was visiting a school assembly in Tel Aviv, or Gallant was being treated one of the main hospitals, would it be ‘fair game’ to bomb either target, knowing that they would kill hundreds and hundreds of innocent people, but they would take out two war criminals?

To me, this could never be justified, but by your logic I guess it is could?

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BelleHathor · 13/07/2024 19:35

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:21

Many supporters of Israeli actions characterise the genocide in Gaza as a ‘war’ rather than a ‘genocide’. I don’t agree with this, I believe it’s a genocide.

But, for the people who believe it’s a war, then I guess that it’s Israel against Hamas. You will say that killing top Hamas commanders (if it even happened) can justify the death of countless civilians, as it’s so important to destroy Hamas.

So tell me, does this work both ways? I.e. if Hamas knew that Netanyahu was visiting a school assembly in Tel Aviv, or Gallant was being treated one of the main hospitals, would it be ‘fair game’ to bomb either target, knowing that they would kill hundreds and hundreds of innocent people, but they would take out two war criminals?

To me, this could never be justified, but by your logic I guess it is could?

I agree with you completely, and your logic is correct.

If Netanyahu gets the escalation he desires we will soon find out whether the defences are applicable to both sides.

Sadly, this is the new world that we live in now. In any future conflicts it will be a free for all, International law has been made a joke of, so I hope all the people making those excuses keep the same energy when a side they care about is on the receiving end, as anything goes now and flimsy excuses for the IDFs behaviour has allowed this.

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:44

It’s terrifying, isn’t it? As well as all the other terrible consequences of this genocide, you are right - Israel, the US, UK, et al, have destroyed international law for all of us.

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Kriscross · 13/07/2024 19:46

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Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:58

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What is your response to my question posted above?

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EasterIssland · 13/07/2024 19:59

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Many posters want a ceasefire. Sadly, not everyone does

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Kriscross · 13/07/2024 20:01

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:58

What is your response to my question posted above?

? what ?

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 20:02

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I haven’t seen anyone on this thread say anything of the sort.

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EasterIssland · 13/07/2024 20:04

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Can you be less cryptic ? Nobody has mentioned hezbollah in the last 5 pages (I’ve searched).the first comment that appears is yours.

I will repeat myself. I believe many posters , myself included want a ceasefire. We want this to end so nobody else is killed.

Silence1 · 13/07/2024 20:11

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Correct, that's exactly what the crazy Ben Gvir and his cronies in the Israeli Govt would like.
Big it up!!
Idiots Ben Gvir suggests Israel should invade Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah in its entirety | The Times of Israel

ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 20:11

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Who are you talking about?

BelleHathor · 13/07/2024 20:12

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 19:44

It’s terrifying, isn’t it? As well as all the other terrible consequences of this genocide, you are right - Israel, the US, UK, et al, have destroyed international law for all of us.

It's sad and scary, especially the way they threw away all the supposed values that our society was built on. Also it usually isn't the people who make these decisions who are harmed, it's civilians and soldiers usually following orders from higher ups.

Kriscross · 13/07/2024 20:18

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 20:02

I haven’t seen anyone on this thread say anything of the sort.

Was that the question you wanted answering?

BelleHathor · 13/07/2024 20:21

Sometimes I get the feeling that no matter how carefully things are worded, there are posters that will misconstrue everything...

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 20:37

Kriscross · 13/07/2024 20:18

Was that the question you wanted answering?

It was the one I posted at 19.21, it’s at the top of this page.

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Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 20:42

https://x.com/tparsi/status/1812177420386193764?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

“This Palestinian girl's family in Gaza was killed by a 2,000lb American bomb.

Biden had provided these bombs to Israel for it to drop them on refugees in tents, all the while Biden publicly claims he is trying to stop the war.”

x.com

https://x.com/tparsi/status/1812177420386193764?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 20:46

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Kriscross · 13/07/2024 21:42

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 20:37

It was the one I posted at 19.21, it’s at the top of this page.

I answered. No hate, no slur but my reply was reported. No idea why. Yet you keep asking for me to reply 🙄 so I can get reported again. What's the point, someone doesn't want me to reply.

EasterIssland · 13/07/2024 21:45

Kriscross · 13/07/2024 21:42

I answered. No hate, no slur but my reply was reported. No idea why. Yet you keep asking for me to reply 🙄 so I can get reported again. What's the point, someone doesn't want me to reply.

Op asked you before your comments were deleted.

they also didn’t reply to the question that OP was asking at 1921.

Kriscross · 13/07/2024 21:50

EasterIssland · 13/07/2024 21:45

Op asked you before your comments were deleted.

they also didn’t reply to the question that OP was asking at 1921.

I've no idea why my comments were deleted. These threads are all the same.

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 21:51

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Kriscross · 13/07/2024 21:56

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You NEVER asked me a direct question. Stop goading for a reply when you never tagged me on any question hence my reply what question and my reply ?

I have had several posts reported that were not hate, or slurs etc just different opinions.

I still could not see where upthread you supposedly asked me a direct question. I'm not tagged anywhere.

I cannot be bothered with this silly game of repeatedly saying answer my question when you haven't tag me in a question to answer. Is this primary school games 🙄