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Conflict in the Middle East

Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

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TwilightSkies · 06/05/2024 09:10

Where the hell are all the Palestinians meant to go now?
They were TOLD to go to Rafah, that Rafah was a safe place.
It’s just open extermination at this point.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:37

Scirocco · 07/05/2024 09:29

So when Hamas did it, it was bad, but when Israel does it, nobody should say anything?

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

You will recall the the Israeli lady naked in the back of a pick-up Hamas truck lying dead with gunmen from Hamas sitting on her body and as they went through their stronghold even their children spat on this lady and hit her with sticks.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:40

Scirocco · 07/05/2024 09:30

Is Egypt in Gaza?

Its a county that attacked Israel with many others - it is right NEXT door, only a barrier is between them and Egypt - why are they not going into a safe place -WHY??

Egypt is an Arab nation.
Why are they not going into Egypt if they have no other safe place to go as you put it - WHY??

(People from Ukraine travel hundreds and thousands of miles to be in "safe places as a TEMPORARY measure so WHY NOT go into Egypt on the same basis??)

Stop making feeble excuses as you know, WHY

Dulra · 07/05/2024 09:42

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:37

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

You will recall the the Israeli lady naked in the back of a pick-up Hamas truck lying dead with gunmen from Hamas sitting on her body and as they went through their stronghold even their children spat on this lady and hit her with sticks.

No one is condoning the Hamas attack fgs but many of us can manage to show empathy and sorrow for both peoples. I personally don't pick and choose what innocent civilians I have empathy and care for. None of them deserve what is happening to them and I fail to see how more death and destruction of innocent lives will help the Israeli victims in any way.

EasterIssland · 07/05/2024 09:43

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:37

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

You will recall the the Israeli lady naked in the back of a pick-up Hamas truck lying dead with gunmen from Hamas sitting on her body and as they went through their stronghold even their children spat on this lady and hit her with sticks.

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

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swap hams with Israel and Israel with Palestinian

Israel government and idf and Hamas are as bad as each other

Dulra · 07/05/2024 09:43

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:40

Its a county that attacked Israel with many others - it is right NEXT door, only a barrier is between them and Egypt - why are they not going into a safe place -WHY??

Egypt is an Arab nation.
Why are they not going into Egypt if they have no other safe place to go as you put it - WHY??

(People from Ukraine travel hundreds and thousands of miles to be in "safe places as a TEMPORARY measure so WHY NOT go into Egypt on the same basis??)

Stop making feeble excuses as you know, WHY

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it is right NEXT door, only a barrier is between them and Egypt - why are they not going into a safe place -WHY??
Do you think they can just stroll through that barrier? Are you that naïve? The Irish government took months trying to get an Irish citizen out of Gaza and only achieved it last week and that was with a massive diplomatic effort behind it.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:45

EasterIssland · 07/05/2024 09:43

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

——

swap hams with Israel and Israel with Palestinian

Israel government and idf and Hamas are as bad as each other

Read my posts bud - you've noted I have already said that those Hamas and israeil leaders are the same, fact

LargeAmericano · 07/05/2024 09:45

EasterIssland · 07/05/2024 09:43

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

——

swap hams with Israel and Israel with Palestinian

Israel government and idf and Hamas are as bad as each other

What a load of hyperbolic nonsense.

Pure antisemitic propaganda. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:46

Dulra · 07/05/2024 09:43

it is right NEXT door, only a barrier is between them and Egypt - why are they not going into a safe place -WHY??
Do you think they can just stroll through that barrier? Are you that naïve? The Irish government took months trying to get an Irish citizen out of Gaza and only achieved it last week and that was with a massive diplomatic effort behind it.

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Why not??

Egypt is an Arab nation that previously launched an attack against Israeil - was the Hamas bullys stopping them to use the people of Gaza as human shields - that right!!

EasterIssland · 07/05/2024 09:52

LargeAmericano · 07/05/2024 09:45

What a load of hyperbolic nonsense.

Pure antisemitic propaganda. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

Israel has killed palestinians
israel has raped women and kids whilst they were taken prisioners

its not hyperbolic nonsense. It’s the reality.

Itsabeautufulday · 07/05/2024 09:57

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What are you rambling about now!

WW2 I wasn't around then, but if I was I would have supported the UK, French etc against the then Germans.

Which side would you have supported then? The same as me? You make no sense at all.

Scirocco · 07/05/2024 10:23

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:37

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

You will recall the the Israeli lady naked in the back of a pick-up Hamas truck lying dead with gunmen from Hamas sitting on her body and as they went through their stronghold even their children spat on this lady and hit her with sticks.

So, here we have it.

The response to 'So when Hamas did it, it was bad, but when Israel does it, nobody should say anything?' is apparently 'Yes'.

Scirocco · 07/05/2024 10:26

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:46

Why not??

Egypt is an Arab nation that previously launched an attack against Israeil - was the Hamas bullys stopping them to use the people of Gaza as human shields - that right!!

Egypt is not in Gaza.

It therefore cannot be a safe zone in Gaza.

The legal, political and moral debates about whether refugees should be able to evacuate to Egypt and what that would mean for the status of Gaza as a Palestinian Territory are an entirely separate debate.

SummerFeverVenice · 07/05/2024 10:27

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Easy peasy, just hobble down all the sniper alleys, dodging the artillery shells, the drones with missiles shooting anything that moves, and the airstrikes, and then walk past three IDF tanks all armed with machine guns and dozens of individual soldiers…only next door. Tom Cruise can do it in Hollywood, so why not a one legged Palestinian child?

SummerFeverVenice · 07/05/2024 10:31

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 07/05/2024 09:37

Yes as Hams went in to attack villages of ordinary residents of Israel and murdered raped and took hostage men, women and children. They raped women

You will recall the the Israeli lady naked in the back of a pick-up Hamas truck lying dead with gunmen from Hamas sitting on her body and as they went through their stronghold even their children spat on this lady and hit her with sticks.

Seven UN special rapporteurs have issued a statement condemning “unacceptable” violence by the Israeli army against women and children during the war on Gaza, particularly sexual violence and enforced disappearances.

“We are appalled that women are being targeted by Israel with such vicious, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks, seemingly sparing no means to destroy their lives and deny them their fundamental human rights,” they said

The statement pointed to “continued reports of sexual assault and violence against women and girls, including against those detained by Israeli occupation forces”. It also cited UN reports saying women and girls in Gaza were victims of enforced disappearances.

https://www.nationaltribune.com.au/un-experts-onslaught-of-violence-against-women-and-children-in-gaza-unacceptable/

Efacsen · 07/05/2024 10:37

Statement from James Elder UNICEF on Gaza's children - half of whom are in Rafah

''Every warning. Every image of children killed and injured. Every heartbreaking story of bloodshed and despair. Every mind-boggling piece of data of the sheer number of children and mothers killed. Of family homes and hospitals destroyed. It’s all been ignored. Our worst fears, Gaza’s nightmare, appears to be a reality.

This past weekend’s events in Gaza, the continued killing of children, more attacks from the warring parties, and now evacuation orders, yet again expose how parties to this conflict continue to utterly disregard the lives and protection of civilians and of children.

This has to change and this is the last moment for that to change. Aid must flow. Hostages must be freed. Rafah must not be invaded. And children must stop being killed. We’ve pleaded, we have implored, countless times, and we do so once more. For the children of Rafah we need a ceasefire now.''

Struggggggling · 07/05/2024 10:40

Honestly there's no point, these po-israel lot only care about human rights, rape or murder when it relates to Pro-Israeli Jewish people, other than that, they're really not fussed

TextureSeeker · 07/05/2024 10:54

Scirocco · 07/05/2024 10:23

So, here we have it.

The response to 'So when Hamas did it, it was bad, but when Israel does it, nobody should say anything?' is apparently 'Yes'.

Yup. And are we supposed to pretend that the West Bank doesn't exist and the attacks by Israelis on villages there and on ordinary residents don't happen? It would seem that only ordinary Israelis matter to some.

MushMonster · 07/05/2024 11:20

Ful on the news now. Israel has taken control of the Rafah crossing.
So, how are palestinians meant to pop in next door?
Can you please show some mercy here?
Of course the world condemns what happened October 7th to the israeli population. But this further nassacre is not going to pave the way to avoid that day repeating again.
The peace talks will. Put your energy in advocating for peace, not on revenge. Revenge will give you nothing. Peace is what everyone needs, what will allow for healing.

MushMonster · 07/05/2024 11:20

That was meant to say full on...

fungipie · 07/05/2024 11:32

Struggggggling · 07/05/2024 10:40

Honestly there's no point, these po-israel lot only care about human rights, rape or murder when it relates to Pro-Israeli Jewish people, other than that, they're really not fussed

It is just so sick.

SummerFeverVenice · 07/05/2024 11:36

UN OCHA
“The two main arteries for getting aid into Gaza are currently choked off,” Jens Laerk says, adding that UN agencies have very low stocks inside the Gaza Strip since humanitarian supplies are consumed immediately.
“If no fuel comes in for a prolonged period of time, it would be a very effective way of putting the humanitarian operation in its grave,” he said.

https://x.com/UN_News_Centre/status/1787784218363166951

https://x.com/UN_News_Centre/status/1787784218363166951

SummerFeverVenice · 07/05/2024 11:38

UN Women
https://x.com/UN_Women/status/1787621551866601521

Intensified military operations in #Rafah will bring more death and despair for 700,000 women and girls.

We demand an immediate ceasefire in #Gaza, the release of all hostages, and safe and unimpeded access for humanitarian aid.

Our press release: http://unwo.men/HA0b50Ry2bF

https://x.com/UN_Women/status/1787621551866601521

SummerFeverVenice · 07/05/2024 11:39

UN Women’s survey data sheds light on the devastating reality of life for women and girls in Rafah:

  1. Rafah now hosts 700,000 women and girls who have nowhere else to go. 93 per cent of women respondents express feeling unsafe within their own homes or displaced locations.
  2. Over 80 per cent of women report feelings of depression, 66 per cent are not able to sleep, and over 70 per cent have heightened anxiety and nightmares.
  3. More than half of women surveyed (51 per cent) have a medical condition requiring urgent medical attention since the start of the war, with 62 per cent unable to pay for necessary medical care.
  4. More than 6 out of 10 of the interviewed women who are currently pregnant or have been pregnant since October 7th reported complications, including 95 per cent reporting urinary tract infections; 80 per cent anemia; 30 per cent pre-term labor, and 50 per cent hypertensive disorders. In households with nursing mothers, 72 per cent reported that there are challenges in breastfeeding and in meeting the nutritional needs of babies.
  5. Women in Rafah struggle to protect the physical and mental well-being of their children, while also bearing increased burdens of caregiving and domestic responsibilities particularly in tents and overcrowded households. 8 out of 10 (79 per cent) of female and male respondents stated that mothers are taking on more responsibility than men to provide emotional support for adult family members and children alike.
From press release https://arabstates.unwomen.org/en/stories/press-release/2024/05/intensified-military-operations-will-bring-increased-death-and-despair-for-rafahs-700000-women-and-girls

Intensified military operations will bring increased death and despair for Rafah’s 700,000 women and girls

New UN Women survey data from Rafah highlights the depth of physical and mental despair, with 93% of women interviewed feeling unsafe and over half reporting medical conditions requiring urgent attention. With any Israeli ground invasion, these number...

https://arabstates.unwomen.org/en/stories/press-release/2024/05/intensified-military-operations-will-bring-increased-death-and-despair-for-rafahs-700000-women-and-girls

Parkingt111 · 07/05/2024 11:51

@SummerFeverVenice thank you for sharing