The 12 year old Palestinian child shot dead on the West Bank

[maudelovesharold]

OMG. Have just seen the BBC report of this killing, including the site of the shooting, demonstrating how far away this kid playing with a firework was from the highly fortified tower the Israeli sniper shot him from. I’m starting to think we’re dealing with a bunch of fucking psychopaths, in the IDF and the Israeli Government. They’re serial killers, the lot of them. Bollocks to their “he was a 12 year old terrorist”. He was an innocent child, playing.

It didn't take long, did it? I am speechless.

Condemning child murder is anti-semitic?

Holding the IDF to the standards of international law is anti-semitic?

Is that really what you want to say?

I watched it on a live news report via Reuters. I have just tried to find a recorded video of the live report I watched, but cannot find it.

No other children are held to the standards of palestinian children, who get killed for playing with a firework.

It's pure anti-Palestinian racism.

Disagree with the IDF murdering children? Antisemitic! No other explanation for it.

This with bells, whistles and flashing lights on it.

It's pure anti-Palestinian racism

I don't think it's "pure" anything. It's young soldiers, asked to police a tinderbox that shouldn't exist in the first place, and the psychological aspects of that are complicated. The whole thing needs solving.

I wouldn't want my children living in the WB, and I wouldn't want them patrolling it in an IDF unit, either.

The best hope is some kind of NI style peace process.

Surely there's only so long you can keep playing the antisemitism card.

People are condemning the Israeli government not all Jewish people.

As for what do we expect the IDF to do, maybe not kill children for a start?

Thanks. Maybe it can be found on their twitter page. Can you remember the approximate date? It will help with the search.

After the boy died in hospital, the IDF seized his body and are refusing to give it to the family so they can do the funeral rites for him.
https://www.livetube.tv/news/video-rami-al-halhulis-father-says-israeli-forces-are-imposing-restrictions-on-return-of-body

It was day before yesterday and said by a male reporter in East Jerusalem reporting on the shooting of Rami.

And shooting a child, after assuming they are a terrorist on the basis they’re Palestinian is acceptable racism apparently

It’s just horrible. That’s just it, it is an occupation. This isn’t a war as the Palestinians have no legitimate side to fight as in a 2 sided war.

Please would someone explain why Israelis are even there in their shooting tower?

Was this the West Bank or the East Jerusalem?

If posters want to label anyone who denounces shooting a child antisemitic, let them. I have come to the conclusion that criticising the IDF/Israeli makes you automatically antisemitic; no matter what.

I was quoting the previous poster (now rightfully deleted for hate speech) who was saying condemning the soldiers, who were being "baited" by children, was "pure antisemitism". I turned their phrasing into my comment.

I realise their comment was deleted now so you can't see the context.

the logic is so warped.

I was quoting the previous poster (now rightfully deleted for hate speech) who was saying condemning the soldiers, who were being "baited" by children, was "pure antisemitism". I turned their phrasing into my comment.

Yea I saw the comment and realised it was a retaliatory rhetorical something... but where does that get us?

She says whatever position or comment is "pure" anti semitism, you say the shooting was "pure racism" towards Palestinians. Neither can possibly be true. So what does saying it achieve? It's just so much more petrol thrown on the flames from two directions.

...which is why I started my remarks by saying I don't think either side is pure anything.

But it's also true. It's a complicated geopolitical shitstorm with a grisly religious backstory. It's militarised. Nobody is acting from pure racism or pure bigotry or pure anything else in a situation like that and it's really dangerous to be so reductive. We all want things to improve so we need to stop the over simplification.

Sorry. Lost track of my own strand there but I was trying to make two separate points about how it really isn't all a matter of hate crime as well as why calling it "pure" bigotry is unhelpful. Two connected points.

I shouldn't post between working.

Was this the West Bank or the East Jerusalem?

I think East Jerusalem is considered under International Law to be part of the (occupied) West Bank?

Thank you. I cannot bear it that Israelis should even be there with guns, towers, and powers to shoot and arrest when it is not their own territory.

You've totally missed my point.