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Conflict in the Middle East

IDF statement on Aid Convoy Stampede

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Yellowducksandrakes · 01/03/2024 16:17

What’s happened: Following the death of dozens of Palestinians after a stampede broke out around an aid convoy west of Gaza City, the US has blocked an Algerian-sponsored statement at the United Nations Security Council which sought to blame Israel.

  • While reports conflict, it appears that:
  • Before dawn yesterday morning, approximately 30 trucks containing aid entered the Gaza Strip to deliver food to the Rimal neighbourhood of Gaza City.
  • At approximately 4.40 AM, thousands of Gazans swarmed the trucks. Drone footage of the event shows some of the trucks attempting to drive through the crowds, presumably in an effort to extract themselves and deliver the aid they were carrying.
  • After a number of trucks were able to continue north, armed men opened fire on what remained of the convoy.
  • While the IDF has admitted that its troops did open fire, it says that this was only “when they encountered danger, when the mob moved toward it in a manner that endangered the force”.
  • The IDF also says that it “did not fire toward individuals seeking aid and we did not fire toward the humanitarian convoy from the ground nor from the air.”
  • It is being reported that at least 112 Gazans were killed in this incident, with approximately 760 being injured. However, as these figures originate from within the Hamas-run Palestinian Ministry of Health, their veracity is questionable.
  • The IDF’s initial inquiry into the incident has concluded its troops’ fire killed only 7 or 8 people and that the majority were killed in the chaos, not by shooting.
  • “The tanks were there to provide security for the trucks. Our aircraft gave the troops on the ground a full picture from above,” the IDF said.
  • “When the hundreds turned into thousands, the IDF complied with international law… Israel did not limit the quantity of humanitarian aid entering Gaza. We recognize the suffering of the Gaza residents.”
  • In the aftermath of this event, much of the international community has reiterated calls for an immediate ceasefire and increased aid being allowed into the Gaza Strip.
  • At the United Nations Security Council, Algeria sought to issue a statement which explicitly blamed Israel for this deadly incident. While supported by 14 out of 15 council members, it was blocked by the US.
  • When asked why the US had not supported this statement, Deputy Ambassador to the United Nations Robert Wood said: “We don’t have all the facts on the ground – that’s the problem.”
  • He also said that in the face of contradictory reports, the US was trying to establish facts, including regarding the “circumstances around how people died”.
  • President Biden has also discussed this incident with Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi. According to a White House statement, they agreed that it “underscored the urgency of bringing negotiations to a close as soon as possible”.
  • The White House has also called for this event to be “thoroughly investigated”.
Context: Israel will conduct a thorough investigation into an incident which further highlights the complexity of distributing aid to the Gazan people and the urgent necessity of forming a civilian infrastructure to prevent further incidents of this kind.
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Molymoly · 02/04/2024 17:08

Just seen this on Sky News. This is what they wanted to happen:

Ships turning back from Gaza with 240 tonnes of undelivered aid, Cyprus saysEarlier, we reported that World Central Kitchen was suspending its operations in Gaza after the killings of seven of its aid workers in an Israeli strike.
Three aid ships from Cyprus arrived on Monday carrying hundreds of tonnes of food and supplies organised by the charity and the UAE.
Around 100 tonnes had been unloaded before the charity suspended operations but now Cypriot foreign ministry spokesman Theodoros Gotsis says the remaining 240 tonnes will be sent back to Cyprus.

EasterIssland · 02/04/2024 23:02

Anera has also paused providing aid as it’s a risk to them but also those receiving aid

https://twitter.com/AneraOrg/status/1775194707389235705

https://twitter.com/AneraOrg/status/1775194707389235705

EasterIssland · 04/04/2024 17:44

A new organisation will try and provide the aid. Hopefully nobody will be killed

IDF statement on Aid Convoy Stampede
EasterIssland · 06/04/2024 22:26

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-says-israel-approved-reopening-of-20-bakeries-water-pipeline-in-northern-gaza/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

UN says Israel approved reopening of 20 bakeries, water pipeline in northern Gaza

EasterIssland · 09/04/2024 14:27

Israel has been blocking far more convoys carrying food aid within Gaza, where famine is looming, than convoys carrying other kinds of aid, the UN has said.
A spokesperson for the UN’s humanitarian agency pointed to statistics from March showing that it was much more difficult to get clearance for delivering food than other aid in the besieged enclave.
“Food convoys that should be going particularly to the north, where 70 percent of people face famine conditions, are … three times more likely to be denied than any other humanitarian convoys with other kinds of material,” Jens Laerke told reporters in Geneva.
Laerke also pointed to delays linked to the crossing point opening hours and the fact that Israel has barred Egyptian drivers and trucks from being in the same area at the same time as Palestinian drivers and trucks.
“That means there’s not a smooth handover,” Laerke said.
The main problem though was then getting authorisation and assurances that aid distribution can go ahead unimpeded, he said.

frim the guardian

EasterIssland · 10/04/2024 23:10

Thanks @silverneedle for the above link

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Efacsen · 11/04/2024 06:49

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How about keeping 'on topic' and not de-railing another thread?

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Efacsen · 11/04/2024 08:24

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No it isn't

Read the OP
RTFT

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Probably it’s already in this thread but I’ll repost it again

US envoy: Israel hasn’t provided ‘specific evidence’ Hamas is stealing aid shipments

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-envoy-israel-hasnt-provided-specific-evidence-hamas-is-stealing-aid-shipments/amp/

EasterIssland · 11/04/2024 08:54

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This link is from sept 2023

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Cam you clarify what point it is you are trying to make? This thread is about the 'flour massacre', are you saying that you think Hamas stealing some aid is a reason for the IDF to open fire on starving civillians trying to get food? That Hamas stealing some aid means it is OK for the IDF to kill 100 starving people and injure 700 more? You say you think your post is relevant so I think it would be good if you could clarify how? You haven't condemned the IDFs actions just Hamas so presumably you agree with what the IDF have done?

silverneedle · 11/04/2024 16:03

Good questions question seeker

HeidiInTheBigCity · 11/04/2024 21:38

Even the Torygraph has some serious questions ...

Please note that when they say that the commander in question is from "Gush Etzion": that is a cluster of settlements roughly around between Bethlehem and Hebron, one of the more militant areas [the other hotspot being further north, around Nablus and the villages that surround it].

So, in a nutshell: violent racist extremist who openly advocated for starvation in charge of operation that ended up killing aid workers trying to relieve starvation. Go figure!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/israel-hamas-war-gaza-idf-aid-strike-world-central-kitchen/

Top IDF commander in aid strike wanted to block humanitarian supplies into Gaza

Investigation shows officer signed a letter to Israel’s War Cabinet demanding a ‘siege’ of Gaza City

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/israel-hamas-war-gaza-idf-aid-strike-world-central-kitchen

EasterIssland · 12/04/2024 07:34

CNN investigation of the Flour Massacre shows the IDF fired 600 rounds of bullets a minute at unarmed starving Palestinians murdering 118 people, injuring 760
https://twitter.com/BeckettUnite/status/1778318906991448078

https://twitter.com/BeckettUnite/status/1778318906991448078

Efacsen · 12/04/2024 07:48

And probably about half of the 760 injured people went to al-Shifa and all the horrors that later took place there

EasterIssland · 14/04/2024 21:15

😢

IDF statement on Aid Convoy Stampede
BelleHathor · 14/04/2024 21:20

EasterIssland · 14/04/2024 21:15

😢

Poor baby 😢

PeasfullPerson · 15/04/2024 09:33

That’s devastating 😣

I also feel really sorry for whoever was involved in the drop of that aid box.

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