Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

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Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

@Auvergne63 I think that what you’ve written there makes a lot of sense…

‘I believe racism is a fear reaction, brought on by ignorance.
To combat it, we need to educate, educate, educate.’

I think that as a society we definitely need to do more to educate people, so that this fear can’t be utilised by those with less than admirable motives. It’s upsetting to see this fear being amplified by people like Lee Anderson.

Also just seen this article.

Not sure the current government has much appetite for educating people on this matter?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/27/labour-demands-tory-london-mayor-candidate-susan-hall-apologise-for-islamophobia

I recently got told that, when it comes to people "like [me], Enoch Powell had a valid point."

I mean, where do I even start with addressing that?

This is disgusting! I think for some adults it is too late. They are too entrenched in their views.

They genuinely thought that was an entirely reasonable thing to say in conversation. Not even in an argument. Just a normal, bog standard discussion about a normal, bog standard aspect of every day life. Like someone might have a valid point talking about factors contributing to shoddy bin collection services.

I think we, humans, can be wary of anyone "not like us". This could be a relic of our cavemen past. Couple this with the way we are brought up ( reinforcing that fear or not) and the society we live in, racism might flourish.
I have never met a child under 10 who was racist. I met children who repeated what they heard at home though.

Yes, it is hard enough to govern some of our tribal instincts, but when there are so many interests in seeing us fight amongst ourselves, it is ten times harder. I should know, I'm from Northern Ireland.

Hi Parking111, sorry I missed your question yesterday where you asked which part of your post wasn't true; it was the following comment:

Because unlike other groups when the attacker is muslim then all the Muslims in Britain are held responsible for it by some

I know first -hand that the Irish Catholic (republican) descendants in the UK suffered stigma and prejudice after the bombings, even though the vast majority did not support the IRA.

This is the glaring illogic in some social thought whereby “whiteness” or “accepted as white” equates to wholesale immunity from racism. They then address the cognitive dissonance of the fact that some white ethnic groups can experience racism by pretending they are being “excluded from whiteness” and presto! Can preserve the illusion that white people cannot experience racism.

There is no race that is immune to racism. Race includes any ethnicity, so it is more diverse than skin colour alone.

Anyone of any race can experience racism, although not everywhere.

Racism can occur on different levels: personal, institutional and systemic.

In England, any person of any race can be a victim or perpetrator of personal racism. In England, the only ethnicity immune from racism on an institutional and systemic level are ethnically English white people who present as such (for example an ethnically English white person who sounds or looks nonEnglish can still experience racism in their own homeland, ie foreign accent from living abroad, wearing a hijab as a Muslim convert, etc).

You know what I will never understand, there is so much offence at just being told this word does not describe the experience of white people. The truth is, that white people would never willingly take on systemic, institutional or the levels of individual racism that poc face so why is there such a desperation to use this word? Do you think this is a club and there’s some kind of benefit for joining?

If a white brit gains an accent from living abroad, they can take elocution lessons and lose it. If they get grief for it, that is xenophobia not racism.

If a white brit finds that they are experiencing Islamophobia due to wearing a hijab, they can take it off. That is Islamophobia not racism.

There is no element of choice in racism. Lastly no, white people who are not Brits do not face institutional or systemic racism. The white other group as far as I can recall, has at least better health outcomes and more wealth than white Brits. Again, the prejudice they face is more than likely to be xenophobia.

It is so unhelpful to attempt to amalgamate all these experiences into one group. It makes research harder. It makes it harder to articulate the differences in experiences and it makes it harder for some forms of prejudice to be tackled in their own right.

I’m not offended in the slightest. I’m not even of any white ethnicity.

I am remarking on what I see as forcing a round peg into a square hole, to argue that people who are pasty can’t experience racism. There is no logic to it.

Yes, white British CAN experience racism while in Britain. Why? Because British is a nationality, not an ethnicity. Consider the racism that northern Irish still face while in England. Consider the racism the English face in Scotland and Wales, and vice versa. Consider the racism that travellers face (they are British and white).

And when discussing a universal human experience like racism, why confine ourselves to one tiny island? Have you no awareness of how almost all white ethnicities do experience racism outside Europe?

Odd you would use socio-economic measures of class and wealth to argue racism doesn’t exist for you if you share a similar skin tone. It’s like you are completely unaware that even the caste system in India is ethnically based and that crude categories of skin tone or geographic continent doesn’t define ethnicity.

Xenophobia isn’t a replacement term for racism. Xenophobia is fear of anyone foreign, no matter what race they are. You can be both xenophobic and racist.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this point.

Last I checked, this is a UK board on a based site and a conversation about the Israel Palestine conflict and its impact on UK Muslims. At this moment why would I be concerned with what does or does not go on in India? You are also being extremely disingenuous. If a white professional or a black professional were to go to post colonial India, are you actually going to pretend that they are likely to have the same experience? There is a certain element of protection in whiteness in most of the World that people of other races don’t enjoy.

Xenophobia is xenophobia and racism is racism, they are not interchangeable and for both to happen together, the target needs to be both foreign and of a different race. Racism, it is in the name. I do not consider any of your examples describing white on white prejudice, to be racism. They are as unacceptable as individual racism. They may be as hurtful but they are not racism and there is no value in describing them as such.

No form of prejudice is a universal experience. It expresses itself differently, depending on the target, geography, history, politics etc

Can we please stick to the thread ? I’m sure if anyone went to the antisemitism thread and started talking about racism in the uk on white people they’d not be very welcome (rightly so). Don’t think because some people(non Muslim) are going through racism , then we should normalise Muslim hate crime as well.

Apologies OP

What I find very disturbing about anti-muslim hate and fear of Islam as a dangerous religion is just how freely and inconsequentially people can air those sorts of views - positing it as though it's just discourse in a way in which I would bet my house they wouldn't were they referencing another religion or demographic of people. It would be unspeakable for some.

The overton window has really shifted on anti-muslim hate in recent times, it's always been pervasive but something has definitely shifted as of late and I think some of us know the reason and it's goal.

The use of Islamophobia to depict peaceful protestors as violent mobs isn't just an attack on Muslims — it's an attack on all of our democratic rights.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2024/02/zarah-sultana-islamophobia-is-being-used-to-demonise-palestine-solidarity

This is when we need a “like” button. Yes I totally agree, democracy is under attack.

I find this attack on our democratic rights very scary!

3 men were charged for planning an attack on an Islamic education Centre.

www.instagram.com/p/C33e5vgNjrC/?igsh=MWE1cjVqOGJqZXUyYQ==

It also says something about our freedom of press that this politically convenient Islamophobia is everywhere. It’s ironic that Muslims are constantly being undeservedly criticised for trying to impose an extremism point of view, meanwhile It’s increasingly obvious, our media has been weakened and captured by the Conservative governments of the last decade.

So, apparently it's anti-semitic to raise any objections about 'the validity' of what the Israeli government and the IDF are doing, but when it comes to Israeli social media posts celebrating and mocking the deaths of people in Palestine, I should just "grow up and stop paying attention". Delightful.

I can’t see this mentioned on the BBC, but there has been a recent court case regarding a university challenge contestant and a shocking islamophobic smeer campaign led by Tory Peer Baroness Foster that led to the young lady receiving death threats. Really surprised this has nor been more widely reported as it’s pretty shocking the assumptions made about this young lady called Gorgianeh.

The double standards are pretty shocking. I've said it so many times you either see all people as equal or you don't. You can't have it both ways

A heartwarming moment today. In amongst all the graffiti and vandalism in a street I passed today, only one poster was un-tarnished, saying Give Zakat For The Sake Of Allah.

Alhamdulillah.

Just read about it. Horrendous behaviour by Baroness Foster! Another Tory trying to stoke up hatred, when is Sunak going to get a grip on the Islamophobia in his party??? It’s getting completely out of hand now!

I read this too. You really couldn't make it up, could you? The hatred some posters have expressed towards the Palestinians, on numerous threads, is vile. It is thinly veiled at times too.