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Conflict in the Middle East

To ask you not to look away (trigger warning - extremely upsetting information)

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Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 09:53

American doctor talks about the two weeks they spent in Gaza hospital
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/a-pediatricians-two-weeks-inside-a-hospital-in-gaza

ITV proof that the IDF shot at man waving white flag
https://x.com/hamzamsyed/status/1752459443428622712?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

30 bodies, handcuffed with ties behind their backs in zip-up body bags, were found inside Khalifa bin Zayed School in Beit Lahia in the northern Gaza Strip after Israeli occupation forces withdrew from it.
https://x.com/naksbilal/status/1752427501714866330?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

IDF soldier describes how he thinks he must kill every Arab:

https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1752452789077147808?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Israeli soldier forces blindfolded detained Palestinians to pledge themselves to slavery
https://x.com/afshinrattansi/status/1752610995422347284?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Satellite imagery of the destruction of Gaza by the IDF / Israel
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2024/jan/30/how-war-destroyed-gazas-neighbourhoods-visual-investigation

In 2013, dcipalestine (human rights organisation) reported that a 13 year old boy had been raped in Israeli prison. Israel designated them a terrorist organisation. (Sound familiar?)
https://x.com/tksshawa/status/1752512749010141312?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Israelis are also getting killed by the IDF

https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1752402713327947999?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Defunding UNWRA is part of the genocidal intention. Palestinians are starving already https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2024-01-30/war-un-refugee-israel-genocide/

https://x.com/tksshawa/status/1752512749010141312?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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SteamingTangerine · 31/01/2024 10:06

I don't think there's any point issuing a trigger warning without naming the triggers. People find different things upsetting, and you will put people off looking at the thread who may not have found the subject matter triggering.

Jerabilis · 31/01/2024 10:12

Yes, it’s terrible. Hopefully Hamas will be defeated soon and the billions of aid which they’ve stolen can be reclaimed for the people of Gaza.

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Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:24

https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1752563535253471249?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Israel bombs another UN school which people were using for shelter. Nowhere in Gaza Is safe. (Just as Israeli government wants).

https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1752563535253471249?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:26

@SteamingTangerine perhaps you are right, I should have been more specific. Although it is horrendous on so many levels, it’s difficult to narrow it down.

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LindorDoubleChoc · 31/01/2024 10:27

Firstly, this does not belong in AIBU.

Secondly, don't ask people not to look away from extremely upsetting information. If people don't want to be extremely upset when logging onto a benign chat site like Mumsnet, then they would be quite right to look away.

Please try and use the site appropriately.

Deathbyathousandcats · 31/01/2024 10:28

Post this in the Middle East forums, where it belongs.

Tattletwat · 31/01/2024 10:29

Yep post this in correct area and it's just a copy and pasted load of links from somewhere.

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:44

@LindorDoubleChoc i appreciate what you are saying and I’m sorry to have caused upset.

My reason for posting in this way is that much of what is going on is not being reported adequately on the main news sites and newspapers. I was trying to bring attention to what is going on to a wider range of people.

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inkworks273 · 31/01/2024 10:49

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:44

@LindorDoubleChoc i appreciate what you are saying and I’m sorry to have caused upset.

My reason for posting in this way is that much of what is going on is not being reported adequately on the main news sites and newspapers. I was trying to bring attention to what is going on to a wider range of people.

They don't want you to bring attention to it, unfortunately.

Deathbyathousandcats · 31/01/2024 10:50

inkworks273 · 31/01/2024 10:49

They don't want you to bring attention to it, unfortunately.

Who are ‘they’?
(I think I can guess)

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:51

Ah yes, I see it has been moved already…

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Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:53

Which I do understand in the sense that I really don’t want to upset people or make them think about horrid things which they were not expecting. But at the same time it is a truly dreadful situation which every citizen of the UK should know about, as Sunak is making statements such as “Britain is with Israel”.

If British people knew what was going on, I really don’t believe that the vast majority would be supportive.

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inkworks273 · 31/01/2024 10:53

Deathbyathousandcats · 31/01/2024 10:50

Who are ‘they’?
(I think I can guess)

Everyone who reported this post to get it moved.

Spiderzed · 31/01/2024 10:54

inkworks273 · 31/01/2024 10:49

They don't want you to bring attention to it, unfortunately.

There's plenty out there, I don't get these threads that post things that have been widely reported online and make it seem like they're the only ones seeing the truth as if everyone else are silly women who just consume mainstream media without question (which have reported many of these things anyway). The middle east section is entirely appropriate for those who want to discuss it.

Deathbyathousandcats · 31/01/2024 10:55

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Spiderzed · 31/01/2024 10:55

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:53

Which I do understand in the sense that I really don’t want to upset people or make them think about horrid things which they were not expecting. But at the same time it is a truly dreadful situation which every citizen of the UK should know about, as Sunak is making statements such as “Britain is with Israel”.

If British people knew what was going on, I really don’t believe that the vast majority would be supportive.

Why do you think the 'vast majority' are supportive? Why do you think people such as yourself who have seen these reports are in the minority? That's not what I've been seeing and hearing.

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:56

@Deathbyathousandcats which bit is nonsense?

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Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:59

@Spiderzed i don’t think the vast majority are supportive but I do think that the msm is often doing it’s best to minimise the way it reports what Israel are doing to the Gazans. What I meant was, if the actual reality was more widely known about, most people would be horrified.

for example, when I icj verdict came out the bbc gave more time to Jurgen Klopp resigning.

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hogmanayhoolie · 31/01/2024 11:01

You'll be right at home on the Conflict board

It's a bit repetitive and the same old posters but you'll find some people that will share your horror

Spiderzed · 31/01/2024 11:02

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:59

@Spiderzed i don’t think the vast majority are supportive but I do think that the msm is often doing it’s best to minimise the way it reports what Israel are doing to the Gazans. What I meant was, if the actual reality was more widely known about, most people would be horrified.

for example, when I icj verdict came out the bbc gave more time to Jurgen Klopp resigning.

But everything you posted is widely out there. Why do you assume the majority of women just consume channels like the BBC and believe it without question?

BarryfromWatford · 31/01/2024 11:17

Finallyloggedin · 31/01/2024 10:44

@LindorDoubleChoc i appreciate what you are saying and I’m sorry to have caused upset.

My reason for posting in this way is that much of what is going on is not being reported adequately on the main news sites and newspapers. I was trying to bring attention to what is going on to a wider range of people.

Absolutely agree
Too many are unaware or chose to look away

inkworks273 · 31/01/2024 11:20

If you're not online or social media and only get your news from MSM then there is no way you are getting the full story.

Spiderzed · 31/01/2024 11:20

BarryfromWatford · 31/01/2024 11:17

Absolutely agree
Too many are unaware or chose to look away

What's the basis for believing this though?