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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

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Desertrose2023 · 17/01/2024 14:17

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture | Mumsnet

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardme...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

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BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 07:30

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Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 07:53

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 07:28

I believe that you are describing any material released by the Israeli Occupation and this is not it....

I was talking about this released by Mint Press News that also provided the clip you posted

Gaza Fights Back | MintPress News Original Documentary

Turn on CC for English subtitles.Gaza Fights Back is a MintPress News original documentary, directed by Dan Cohen. It tells the story of how Gaza's armed res...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tsBlqa7SU

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 07:55

This clip you posted was at 6.35. am.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:49

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 07:53

I was talking about this released by Mint Press News that also provided the clip you posted

Thank you for the link to the documentary.

I have added it to the list of ones to watch as soon as I have a chance.

From what I have seen so far of it, however, there is nothing bad in it. Indeed in the beginning of it there is a protest against the illegal settlers.

I fail to see the outrage over "Mintpress"

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:07

@BackandForthRoundandRound "I fail to see the outrage over "Mintpress""

There isn't an 'outrage'.

Just concern that they are posting videos made by terrorists.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:08

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:07

@BackandForthRoundandRound "I fail to see the outrage over "Mintpress""

There isn't an 'outrage'.

Just concern that they are posting videos made by terrorists.

It is not a video "made by terrorists" it is clearly a documentary which has been on YouTube for over a year and it would have been removed immediately after posting if it were "made by terrorists"

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:12

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:08

It is not a video "made by terrorists" it is clearly a documentary which has been on YouTube for over a year and it would have been removed immediately after posting if it were "made by terrorists"

I think we are discussing to the wrong video.

This is the one I was referring to -

Gaza Fights Back | MintPress News Original Documentary

Turn on CC for English subtitles.Gaza Fights Back is a MintPress News original documentary, directed by Dan Cohen. It tells the story of how Gaza's armed res...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tsBlqa7SU

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:16

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:12

I think we are discussing to the wrong video.

This is the one I was referring to -

Which has been on YouTube for over a year (it states on it how long for) it is a documentary.

YouTube does not allow any material "made by terrorists" to be on their platform whatsoever.

It would have been removed long before now if it contained anything glorfying terrorism and to try to claim it is "made by terrorists" is very inflammatory.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:17

It seems that some still do not like documentaries showing the reality of the situation in Palestine. Also the Occupied West Bank.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:18

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:16

Which has been on YouTube for over a year (it states on it how long for) it is a documentary.

YouTube does not allow any material "made by terrorists" to be on their platform whatsoever.

It would have been removed long before now if it contained anything glorfying terrorism and to try to claim it is "made by terrorists" is very inflammatory.

So someone dressed in the 'uniform' of Hamas isn't 'promoting terrorism'?

Hmm

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 10:22

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 10:18

So someone dressed in the 'uniform' of Hamas isn't 'promoting terrorism'?

Hmm

It is a documentary. Which has been on YouTube for over a year. Which has very strict and clear guidelines.

YouTube would have removed it long before now if it breached any guidelines ~ including any terrorism guidelines. They are extremely on the ball when it comes to that. Also, no doubt that the video would have been reported many times by certain individuals so it will have been reviewed plenty times as it is.

Someone being in a documentary is not "promoting terrorism"

It is a serious allegation that you are making against YouTube.

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 10:43

@BackandForthRoundandRound

"Only a certain type could do so."

What certain type is that then?

Justpontificating · 13/02/2024 11:32

Ladyjanegreysketle · 13/02/2024 06:24

I'm really sorry you feel as you do. It must be very distressing for you.

These comments are not about how @BackandForthRoundandRound feels. It has nothing to do with their feelings
It is fact

Justpontificating · 13/02/2024 11:43

AliceA2021 · 12/02/2024 22:02

So the hostages were released from one part of Rafah whilst Israel bombed at least two Mosques and civilian houses clearly in another part of Rafah.
A rescue operation should be focussed on just that and should not also encompass indiscriminate bombing with such huge loss of innocent lives and infrastructure.

More Israeli excuses to now target Rafah

AliceA2021 · 13/02/2024 12:17

Justpontificating · 13/02/2024 11:43

So the hostages were released from one part of Rafah whilst Israel bombed at least two Mosques and civilian houses clearly in another part of Rafah.
A rescue operation should be focussed on just that and should not also encompass indiscriminate bombing with such huge loss of innocent lives and infrastructure.

More Israeli excuses to now target Rafah

I'm not making any excuses, I merely posted a CNN link.

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:31

@Justpontificating That was a puzzling response to @Ladyjanegreysketle

It is very much about how that particular poster feels as evidenced by their many many posts

Wingham · 13/02/2024 12:37

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:31

@Justpontificating That was a puzzling response to @Ladyjanegreysketle

It is very much about how that particular poster feels as evidenced by their many many posts

The particular poster was stating facts about the reality of what is happening which was belittled by the comment on how that particular poster feels about it.

Justpontificating · 13/02/2024 12:38

AliceA2021 · 13/02/2024 12:17

I'm not making any excuses, I merely posted a CNN link.

Absolutely and Thankyou for posting it
I wasn’t questioning your post at all. I was highlighting what it was reporting as shocking

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:41

@Wingham Ok. That's your view

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 14:18

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 10:43

@BackandForthRoundandRound

"Only a certain type could do so."

What certain type is that then?

What post exactly are you referring to??

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 14:35

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Sn2IUuPGe/?igsh=MXNidHkzNHh3M3p3OA== Israeli Forces have apparently sent a kidnapped civilian to tell everyone to evacuate Nasser Hospital

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Sn2IUuPGe?igsh=MXNidHkzNHh3M3p3OA%3D%3D

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 14:46

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3SoVQ6oAZd/?igsh=dDl6ZzBzbXlrNnJj Armed Israeli settlers caused destruction in a town in the West Bank

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3SoVQ6oAZd?igsh=dDl6ZzBzbXlrNnJj

Justpontificating · 13/02/2024 15:03

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 14:46

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3SoVQ6oAZd/?igsh=dDl6ZzBzbXlrNnJj Armed Israeli settlers caused destruction in a town in the West Bank

I recall some time ago the IDF were handing out guns to the illegal settlers.
In this case and most cases of settlers attacking Palestinians the IDF help out of course. Which they did here as well.