Documenting the horror that is Hamas part two

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Part two of the thread
@25milesfromhome were where we?

You mean when Arab Palestine's were advised to leave their land by other Arab countries so lost it in war?
And have thrown an eighty year temper tantrum about it?
That one?

Anyone on duty in the armed forces is a combatant. They do not have to be “in active combat” to be considered combatants. They are not hostages. This is not an opinion. This is a legal status.

Again, Lee Rigby. He was currently serving in the armed forces when he was attacked.
Was he murdered, or a combatant killed in action?

That aside, it's nonsense anyway. They were in Israel, not Gaza. There was no active conflict going on until Hamas invaded. And that was a terrorist attack, not an engagement.

I mean basically according to the logic on here, almost all Israelis in their late teens are fair game.

This is just the same shitty rinse-and-repeat denial that we saw about the rapes after the 7 October attack. And eventually those were reported.

After what we heard about 7 October does anyone really believe that the kidnappers would keep their filthy hands off these girls?

And that aside, again, freed hostages have spoken of the assaults that they witnessed. That is all there is to go on as no-one can ask the girls in question as they are still being held hostage.

Oh the genocide deniers have started another thread 😂

Edited before I get deleted. Maybe instead I'll mosey on over to one of the other threads and plaster them in lauging emojis. I'm sure that'll be well received.

I see the rape deniers and terrorist apologists are back keyboard warriorIng.

Why am I not surprised some folks find a discussion about rape amusing.

This is one reason why I am against conscription. I think it is a violation of human rights to have the power to send barely adults off to die at the behest of old men/women. Israeli teens can be conscientious objectors and refuse, but Israel prosecutes, convicts and then tosses them into prison for that. Gives them a criminal record and blights their life chances. It’s a form of duress. Israel could decide not to conscript their teenagers.

Most countries don’t have conscription and they’ve successfully fought wars, even wars against terrorists. It’s not needed to have a military.

@ThickPinkSocks it's really obvious you're on a name-change with the intent to goad, btw. Have the courage to post under the name we'll recognise.

It is some of them yes definitely

I am still a believer that not everyone in Gaza is a Hamas supporter though. However a hell of a lot more Hamas supporters exsist in Gaza than some protesters, politicians or mumsneters want to admit. This denial only helps to keep the conflict going by supporting a narrative that just is clearly not true.

We had/still have terror cells embedded within us.

@SomeCatFromJapan that's not a bad idea: don't forget to name change!

Have terrorists signed up to the Geneva convention

Every day'a school day

Just because another hostage who was there saw it happen and heard them talk about it? Yeah I can.

What's so funny?

Yes I can believe you are against Israeli conscription… but how will Israel survive without its army? Do you think Hamas will also put down their guns and shake hands?

Well done MNHQ. You've surpassed yourself for diabolical moderating.
Allowing rape deniers to post what they want. You've given them a free pass and they've pushed and pushed the boundaries. 👏
Of course, this is the post that will get deleted. Top marks 👌

Rape is a raw nerve for those who aren't apologists.

And I don't believe you.

No, you are incorrect. They are POWs. It was an armed conflict.

Please read the case study by Aharon Barak. Here are a few excerpts he wrote:

“An armed conflict which takes place between an Occupying Power and rebel or insurgent groups – whether or not they are terrorist in character – in an occupied territory, amounts to an international armed conflict” […]

”Our starting point is that the law that applies to the armed conflict between Israel and the terrorist organizations in the area is the international law dealing with armed conflicts. […] According to that view, the fact that the terrorist organizations and their members do not act in the name of a state does not turn the struggle against them into a purely internal state conflict”

”What makes a person a combatant? This category includes, of course, the armed forces.”
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/israel-targeted-killings-case

Not having conscription wouldn’t leave Israel without their armed forces.