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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting the horror that is Hamas part two

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stomachameleon · 07/01/2024 15:13

Part two of the thread
@25milesfromhome were where we?

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ChickenSoupAndLokshen · 09/01/2024 19:51

@mids2019 they're complicit because they support Hamas or are (understandably) too afraid to speak out. It'll vary down to the individual level, I'd wager.

DownNative · 09/01/2024 20:13

mids2019 · 09/01/2024 19:25

@DownNative

Interesting. I wonder if that was why medics publically denied tunnels beneath hospitals. It would be a death wish to publically say Hamas were routinely in and out of them.

Could be coercion. Could be support, especially sneaking regardism.

I recall UNRWA stating supplies had been stolen and then suddenly changing their tune. That, I strongly suspect, was coercion on the part of Hamas in Hamas' territory.

stomachameleon · 09/01/2024 22:22

Unsurprising but still makes you think...

Documenting the horror that is Hamas part two
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DownNative · 09/01/2024 22:36

stomachameleon · 09/01/2024 22:22

Unsurprising but still makes you think...

Indeed, and it must be remembered that areas cannot be rendered immune from military operations simply because protected persons (civilians) are present.

Documenting the horror that is Hamas part two
SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 22:51

"Haniyeh, in his speech today, did not talk about a ceasefire or any possibility of bringing in aid to end the famine in Gaza. Instead, he urged Arabs and the world in general to supply Hamas with weapons to fight against Israel."

Ceasefire... how?

https://twitter.com/IhabHassane/status/1744850236382605579

Yet three days ago he's badgering Blinken to "focus on ending Israeli aggression".
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-chief-haniyeh-tells-blinken-to-focus-on-ending-israeli-aggression/
Why, so his next massacre is a bit easier?

https://twitter.com/IhabHassane/status/1744850236382605579

Humdingerydoo · 09/01/2024 22:55

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C14G6Z6IBks/?igsh=aWp1OWJ1M3pna2s3

A short video of a released hostage saying that one of the female hostages was sexually assaulted and another was tortured because they thought she was a soldier.

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C14G6Z6IBks?igsh=aWp1OWJ1M3pna2s3

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 23:03

Disgusting, but unfortunately utterly unsurprising. What's so distressing is that this is just going on and on for these girls. I can't imagine how it must feel not knowing when the endpoint is, or even if there is one for them. And their poor parents. They must be living in hell.

I'm fed up just now - the naked, blatant anti-Semitism all over social media feels overwhelming at present. The very worst of the bile and spite is of course aimed at Jewish women and girls.
I literally saw an American woman being abused by misogynists for being Jewish, nothing even to do with the conflict. Just out in the open.

etmoiandme · 10/01/2024 00:04

I just posted this on another thread but relevant here too. Assuming it's some kind of ridiculous contortion to excuse their 7/10 rape denialism (and that colonial feminists are you-know-whos).

"Shut down colonial feminism". Says a bunch of "feminists" 🙈

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1744803995175047470

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1744803995175047470

Trulywonderful · 10/01/2024 00:08

etmoiandme · 10/01/2024 00:04

I just posted this on another thread but relevant here too. Assuming it's some kind of ridiculous contortion to excuse their 7/10 rape denialism (and that colonial feminists are you-know-whos).

"Shut down colonial feminism". Says a bunch of "feminists" 🙈

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1744803995175047470

😮

SomeCatFromJapan · 10/01/2024 07:16

Oh that's handy. Nice 21st century rebrand of "she was asking for it".

XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 07:35

etmoiandme · 10/01/2024 00:04

I just posted this on another thread but relevant here too. Assuming it's some kind of ridiculous contortion to excuse their 7/10 rape denialism (and that colonial feminists are you-know-whos).

"Shut down colonial feminism". Says a bunch of "feminists" 🙈

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1744803995175047470

There are some sick and twisted comments on twitter.

XRAYTHIS · 10/01/2024 07:37

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 07:35

Here's some more twaddle about 'colonial feminism'

https://palestinianfeministcollective.org/shut-down-colonial-feminism-2023/

Do they not see the irony that they live on the US.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 07:50

The disinformation in this letter (that they suggest be sent to head people in universities) is staggering

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WWwmS2bVDb1QohNjp6tzISmUyxihZPP26UH0QvQypgw/edit

Template Letter to Universities and Institutions

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WWwmS2bVDb1QohNjp6tzISmUyxihZPP26UH0QvQypgw/edit

SomeCatFromJapan · 10/01/2024 07:57

A template. So the assumption that these accusations will apply to any university at all.

quantumbutterfly · 10/01/2024 08:08

Wow. That letter was utter bollocks. The twatting popular front must be rolling out those t-shirts, at least we'll be able to recognise them.
Maybe these 'feminists' could spare a thought for the female hostages and victims of 7/10..…..but that would require them to actually engage their brains.
......and breathe.

etmoiandme · 10/01/2024 09:31

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 07:35

Here's some more twaddle about 'colonial feminism'

https://palestinianfeministcollective.org/shut-down-colonial-feminism-2023/

It's unhinged and they call this progressive feminism! It's centred solely on Zionists. So basically rape, misogyny and subjugation is absolutely fine if it's by men they perceive to be 'colonised'. And by extension this justifies the rape, torture and mutilation of Israeli women. I saw someone describe it as "creating a loophole for their antisemitism" which seems spot on.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 09:35

Also for their vile and violent misogyny.

noblegiraffe · 10/01/2024 09:37

"Colonial feminism" ffs.

What is really interesting and worrying about all this twaddle is that Russia and China will be absolutely delighted (and no doubt heavily involved) in all this anti-west propaganda and discourse that is turning a large group of civilians against their own governments and they seem largely helpless to deal with it.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 09:43

Not in the US obviously but what bothers me is that it will be Jewish students who are harassed and their free speech suppressed and by largely ignorant woke lefties who have got all of their knowledge from Tik Tok.

I have never, ever, come across Jewish students harassing others.

stomachameleon · 10/01/2024 09:47

@noblegiraffe I agree with you and tbh it's genius. Seemingly intelligent people are turning themselves inside out to be politically correct and 'to be seen to be' without the bigger picture or any historical context.
Hamas must be rubbing their hands with glee. I read elsewhere that they knew they couldn't win a war militarily but they could manipulate Israeli need not to broadcast everything to their advantage. They win at propaganda.
And Russia and China do their bit.
This battle is much more than the Gaza conflict.

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etmoiandme · 10/01/2024 09:47

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2024 09:43

Not in the US obviously but what bothers me is that it will be Jewish students who are harassed and their free speech suppressed and by largely ignorant woke lefties who have got all of their knowledge from Tik Tok.

I have never, ever, come across Jewish students harassing others.

Yes. They start off saying the point of the letter is to protect Muslim students against racism, which would be an absolutely valid letter to write. But then the letter isn't about that at all. It's just a demand to permit hate speech and create a hostile environment for Jewish students. It's really fucking dangerous.

largely ignorant woke lefties
They think they're on the left but they're not.

SomeCatFromJapan · 10/01/2024 10:06

Left and right wing operate on a circle rather than a line imo, and this lot have gone full circle.

Tik tok is of course a Chinese export, and what a successful one it has been.