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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting the horror that is Hamas part two

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stomachameleon · 07/01/2024 15:13

Part two of the thread
@25milesfromhome were where we?

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stomachameleon · 09/01/2024 07:26

@noblegiraffe you are right and it sickens me. Legitimising the Actions of a terrorist organisation. Like I said a new low.

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XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 07:52

Some are so full of hatred that they have no compassion for terrified teenage girls.

Reached a new low.

Limeandsodaontherocks · 09/01/2024 07:56

I haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating things …. But the problem with the term POW is that it legitimises the abduction of these girls and suggests it is within the rules of international law regarding conflict.
There was no conflict until their abduction.
The hostages were not engaged in aggressive acts they were going about their lawful peaceful business.
The hostage takers were terrorists - not a legitimate force engaged in combat.
The poster is distorting language and truth in the use of the term POW

stomachameleon · 09/01/2024 07:57

@Humdingerydoo the thought and the speech police is another file Wink

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SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:00

I think you should gracefully admit you were ill informed on this so we can move on.

And I think you should gracefully admit that you are attempting to minimise terrorist atrocities, sp I suppose we're both going to be disappointed.

XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 08:00

Making excuses or twisting and turning to make what hamas did appear as resistance, as ok, as legitimate seems to be the aim of some apologists.

I avoid twitter or X as it is now, it's a cesspit of hatred, appalling site.

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:12

When even Isis thinks Hamas has gone too far:

"The official spokesman of ISIS, Abu Hudhayfa al-Ansari, has released a speech condemning Hamas for sacrificing the people of Gaza on the altar of Iran’s “regional project”"

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1744561190796206096

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1744561190796206096

quantumbutterfly · 09/01/2024 08:13

It should be shocking but sadly it isn't.
Take heart, there are many on twatter that are shining a light on hamas, hezbollah, houthi and hypocrisy.

quantumbutterfly · 09/01/2024 08:14

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:12

When even Isis thinks Hamas has gone too far:

"The official spokesman of ISIS, Abu Hudhayfa al-Ansari, has released a speech condemning Hamas for sacrificing the people of Gaza on the altar of Iran’s “regional project”"

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1744561190796206096

Well that is a hell of a burn.

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 08:18

stomachameleon · 09/01/2024 07:57

@Humdingerydoo the thought and the speech police is another file Wink

Sto unless you are going to write joke in brackets don't joke on the conflict board

We already know some people here comphension problems in general. I can't imagine they will understand the difference between a joke and something being real at this point.

To be honest even with joke or sarcasm in brackets some people will still go all conspiracy theories anyway. Luckily the majority of posters with conflicting views do have a sense of humour. However sadly we should probably remember some believe alsorts and our humour is perhaps beyond them

quantumbutterfly · 09/01/2024 08:18

Interesting to follow that twatter thread down

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:20

@XRAYTHIS the "they're POWs not hostages" thing has indeed generated the most hideous takes on twitter, including from a Canadian citizen who is a goodwill ambassador for WWF Pakistan:

https://twitter.com/miradulescu/status/1744467628201001060

https://twitter.com/miradulescu/status/1744467628201001060

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 08:23

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:12

When even Isis thinks Hamas has gone too far:

"The official spokesman of ISIS, Abu Hudhayfa al-Ansari, has released a speech condemning Hamas for sacrificing the people of Gaza on the altar of Iran’s “regional project”"

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1744561190796206096

If Hamas are going to talk about "only 4% of Gazens civilians being killed" and Iran are going to say there project is underway. Then frankly even most nutjobs out there can see Gazens have been used as collateral damage by Hamas and Iran

It really does say a fair bit about those useful idiots or exstemists that don't have an issue with this doesn't it

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 08:25

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:20

@XRAYTHIS the "they're POWs not hostages" thing has indeed generated the most hideous takes on twitter, including from a Canadian citizen who is a goodwill ambassador for WWF Pakistan:

https://twitter.com/miradulescu/status/1744467628201001060

Some truly sick people out there

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:26

And my final bit of twitter spam for the morning... Great upset that Hamas' official twitter account only lasted a few hours before being banned:

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744491059273445393

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744491059273445393

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:29

It really does say a fair bit about those useful idiots or exstemists that don't have an issue with this doesn't it

They'll just blame Israel.

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 08:38

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 08:29

It really does say a fair bit about those useful idiots or exstemists that don't have an issue with this doesn't it

They'll just blame Israel.

Default setting for them so yes

After many many years of seeing various people do blame Israel or Jews in general for everything negative that happens globally. I do wonder if that default setting means when their fridge breaks or kids won't go to sleep they manage to find a way to blame...........

GaterGame · 09/01/2024 08:46

Livinginanotherworld · 09/01/2024 01:31

Well which is it ffs ? You said a Jewish version of mumsnet, I don’t know that forum I’m not Jewish, but I don’t like the idea of my posts copied to another forum. It’s all very underhand.

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I said nothing of the sort.

quantumbutterfly · 09/01/2024 08:57

It's almost like you can't post anonymous stuff on the internet that you wouldn't say irl. The horror!

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 09:05

Apropos those yesterday denting sexual assaults against the four teenage girls.

Their assaults were reported by the released hostage Chen Almog, who said the following:

“When we met the girls in Gaza, they were broken” said released hostage Chen Almog who met them in captivity. “Every time they cried, the men of Hamas sexually assaulted them at gunpoint.”

“They are sexually assaulted on a daily basis by Hamas’ men.”

XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 10:00

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/01/2024 09:05

Apropos those yesterday denting sexual assaults against the four teenage girls.

Their assaults were reported by the released hostage Chen Almog, who said the following:

“When we met the girls in Gaza, they were broken” said released hostage Chen Almog who met them in captivity. “Every time they cried, the men of Hamas sexually assaulted them at gunpoint.”

“They are sexually assaulted on a daily basis by Hamas’ men.”

Hamas supporters won't believe it unless they see it on Tic toc

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 10:05

XRAYTHIS · 09/01/2024 10:00

Hamas supporters won't believe it unless they see it on Tic toc

Sadly you are right and even then some will minimise it in some way

Just like we saw here yesterday

Cavityhole · 09/01/2024 10:13

What delights can we expect from our resident Hamas apologist today?

Trulywonderful · 09/01/2024 10:21

Cavityhole · 09/01/2024 10:13

What delights can we expect from our resident Hamas apologist today?

I got am email from mumsnet about yesterday

It sounds like they are taking positive action. They did and are doing as I asked anyway.

So that is something at least

DownNative · 09/01/2024 11:00

Cavityhole · 09/01/2024 10:13

What delights can we expect from our resident Hamas apologist today?

I will have to look at those kinds of posts in this thread for myself once I've a bit of time to read them. 👍

I hope there's nothing further of that type of post given what @Trulywonderful was emailed by MNT.