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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage in Gaza - part 3

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 20/12/2023 12:29

Part 3.

I hope they come home soon and there's no need for a part 4.

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 11/02/2024 17:35

Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip during the past 96 hours have killed two Israeli hostages and seriously injured eight others, Hamas’ armed-wing Al Qassam Brigades wrote on Telegram.

Well they could just release them.

No proof so I'll take it with a pinch of salt. After all they could release photographs of the dead hostages. They did that before wht not do it now to prove what they saying?

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/02/2024 03:33

Two hostages rescued - details in this thread. Both older men.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1756874602771255354?t=Ul5rx5Hth1ltJp6-1i64ew&s=19

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1756874602771255354?s=19&t=Ul5rx5Hth1ltJp6-1i64ew

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stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 04:25

@StarbucksSmarterSister that's such good news!

EllaDisenchanted · 12/02/2024 05:03

Yes!!! Baruch Hashem!!! Best news to wake up to this morning 😀

quantumbutterfly · 12/02/2024 05:06

Wonderful. 🙏

Zoflorabore · 12/02/2024 07:12

So pleased to hear this news 💙

Humdingerydoo · 12/02/2024 07:47

Excellent news! May there be many more successful rescue operations like this one!

Efacsen · 12/02/2024 07:57

Very good news

EllaDisenchanted · 12/02/2024 08:45

Picture of the two hostages reuniting with their wives

Israelis held hostage in Gaza - part 3
Israelis held hostage in Gaza - part 3
quantumbutterfly · 12/02/2024 08:48

Parkingt111 · 12/02/2024 08:58

EllaDisenchanted · 12/02/2024 08:45

Picture of the two hostages reuniting with their wives

Beautiful thank you for sharing. A picture of resilience, love and hope for the other families of the hostages

PeasfullPerson · 12/02/2024 10:13

I hope they get the support they need to heal from their terrible experience’s. I hope they are able to embrace and enjoy their lives. I’m sure it won’t be easy.

Februaryfeels · 12/02/2024 11:11

StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/02/2024 03:33

Two hostages rescued - details in this thread. Both older men.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1756874602771255354?t=Ul5rx5Hth1ltJp6-1i64ew&s=19

Fantastic news.

EllaDisenchanted · 13/02/2024 11:34

"Afghan added that despite promises, her father did not receive medicine that was transferred into the Gaza Strip as part of a Qatar-brokered deal last month"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/my-heart-is-whole-families-of-rescued-hostages-stunned-by-their-return-from-gaza/

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 13/02/2024 11:35

Hope there’s more to follow.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 13/02/2024 12:02

Februaryfeels · 13/02/2024 12:34

EllaDisenchanted · 13/02/2024 11:34

"Afghan added that despite promises, her father did not receive medicine that was transferred into the Gaza Strip as part of a Qatar-brokered deal last month"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/my-heart-is-whole-families-of-rescued-hostages-stunned-by-their-return-from-gaza/

No surprise there

SummerFeverVenice · 13/02/2024 14:03

stomachameleon · 10/02/2024 08:49

@SummerFeverVenice you seem to spend a lot of time 'baffled' and 'confused'.

As I said i read it this week. This was confirmed by other posters.

What do you want me to post... my cousin said xyz. Your being ridiculous. I don't need to justify myself to you.

You seem determined to point the blame at Israel and yet none of this would even be discussed if Hamas had not taken them hostage in the first place. Hamas have no realistic plan for ceasefire except nonsense that they know will be refused.

Your cousin then. They often have different views from what the polls say regarding what the majority of Israelis think on a topic. It would be less confusing if you didn’t use your cousin’s opinion as a proxy for all Israelis on various threads. Sweeping statements like “no one in Israel thinks x” and “they all want y” when that is just what your cousin thinks and wants, of course it is going to confuse those of us that look at polling results that take the views of thousands of Israelis into account.

Oh, and we are back to blame again. As I said earlier, you seem overly invested discussing who has ‘the blame’ rather than thinking about getting the hostages home and the hostilities ended.

I haven’t been pointing ‘the blame’ at Israel, as if I think like you that there is only one singular ‘the blame’ that has to be placed on one party’s head for absolutely everything to do with the war. I get it, you think blame is singular and Hamas has ‘the blame’ for everything it does and everything Israel and everyone else does about the situation in Israel and the OPTs.

To me, there is a lot of blame floating around that can, after investigations when the dust settles, can be portioned out accordingly by the international justice systems between Hamas, Israel, USA, Iran, Egypt, PA, Europe, UN, etcetera etcetera. Blame is for after the war. It doesn’t help end the war.

Right now is the time to get the hostages home and the hostilities stopped because innocents are dying in Gaza at a terrifyingly high rate. I was really happy to see 2 hostages rescued over the weekend, but less happy to see reports that Israel killed 3 hostages and 67 Palestinian civilians as part of their rescue operation.

Negotiation has still had the highest success rate for getting the hostages home safely. When you strip out the emotions and focus on saving the most hostages that as a bonus also avoids killing other innocent civilians, using military force is not the best course of action from a human cost viewpoint.

stomachameleon · 13/02/2024 14:24

That was an example and I didn't say I spoke for everyone in Israel. I wasn't being literal.

Did you read the ama with Israelilefty? I found that quite useful with regard to what is happening there.

I am not over invested and I don't need permission as to what I am invested in? Or why? I do stand by the fact that without taking people hostage in vast numbers and Varying civilians/ children/ elderly we wouldn't be here.

I don't like sweeping generalisations either so if I have given that impression I shouldn't have done. I don't think I have ever said 'Everyone thinks.....' but I am happy to be proved wrong.

I very much agree with your last paragraph and hope that things move forward fast.

SummerFeverVenice · 13/02/2024 14:46

stomachameleon · 13/02/2024 14:24

That was an example and I didn't say I spoke for everyone in Israel. I wasn't being literal.

Did you read the ama with Israelilefty? I found that quite useful with regard to what is happening there.

I am not over invested and I don't need permission as to what I am invested in? Or why? I do stand by the fact that without taking people hostage in vast numbers and Varying civilians/ children/ elderly we wouldn't be here.

I don't like sweeping generalisations either so if I have given that impression I shouldn't have done. I don't think I have ever said 'Everyone thinks.....' but I am happy to be proved wrong.

I very much agree with your last paragraph and hope that things move forward fast.

Ok, it is fair you were not being literal, thank you for mentioning that. I don’t like to infer things so I do have a tendency to just take what people write at face value. It’s me trying not to twist anyone’s words by inferring off piste, although I get that this fails when someone is not being literal. So I apologise as my method is well intentioned, but not perfect.

Originally, I had asked out of curiosity where you had heard what you were saying from because it conflicted with what I had read and I posted links to these so you’d know I’m not picking a fight, I am genuinely curious where you heard these other opinions from. I wanted to see them for myself so I could be better informed.

I wasn’t trying to make you feel you had to justify yourself to me, I just was curious where you read/heard things and hoped you would share your sources with links like I did for you. I did get defensive about the whole “you are trying to put the blame on Israel” because that’s not my aim or my opinion. I do value what your family/friends in Israel think so I get there would be no link to their views, thank you for sharing their insight. I did read the Israeli AMA thread as well, that is good advice.

I am glad we can all agree on saving as many innocent hostages and civilians as possible :)

stomachameleon · 13/02/2024 14:57

@SummerFeverVenice I apologise.

Am always happy to share sources but for the life of me I couldn't remember where I had seen it (I could even have been Reddit)

If I see anything I will @ you

stomachameleon · 13/02/2024 21:32

www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-send-delegation-to-cairo-hostage-talks-as-biden-touts-push-for-6-week-pause/

In a deal worse than Novembers.
Not even all the hostages released before getting to men, soldiers, bodies.
Other info coming.....

stomachamelon · 14/02/2024 14:21

Interesting today...

Israelis held hostage in Gaza - part 3
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