Pro Palestinian marches apparently costing police 20 million pounds.

[Jupitersstorm]

Should these be allowed to continue due to the cost of policing? I am all for peaceful and safe protests - it's enshrined in our culture and law - but why are these supposedly peaceful protests costing so much to police? There is now a funding gap - couldn't this tax payers' money be better used elsewhere?

Lots of litter and placards to clear up each time too.

"Pro-Palestine protests cost police '£20million' as thousands more take to London streets on ninth weekend in a row - and plans for them to continue into the New Year"

"Additional pressure on the Met is having a detrimental effect on the welfare of its officers, Mr Khan warned.
'The Met has cancelled nearly 4,000 rest days and for each public order event, the same officers are being deployed,' he said.
'Many officers have worked every weekend since October 7 and sickness rates are rising, a trend which is likely to continue.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12846831/Pro-Palestine-protests-cost-police-20million.html

Ha!

What about the £8m cost of King Charles photographs being sent to all public bodies.

£8m!!! In the middle of a cost of living crisis!

No, they shouldn't be stopped. Where do you draw the line at which protests we should allow or not allow? Only allow the ones you agree with? Only allow ones your neighbour Phil agrees with?
Perhaps there would be more funding if they didn't throw money at their mates companies pretending it's for the benefit of the British public. We should ban that before we ban the right to protest.

I wish we lived in a world where we never needed to protest. Had our gov stopped funding arms, supporting genocides and working for their own personal gains and actually worked for the British public we wouldn't be protesting. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the British police receive training soon just like the US are from Israel on how to suppress people and batter the shit out of them with their brutality tactics they've been practicing on Palestinian children with DM being on the front row marketing how great are police force are.

Papers like the DM are hate filled and racist feeding off the uneducated foolish man's prejudices making them believe all the problems in the world they are facing are because of benefit frauds, brown people, Muslims, immigrants and Meghan Markle. If the readers had an ounce of a brain cell, they would divert their attention to the government and their corruption and see the actual cause. The people protesting about freedom for Palestine are also mostly the very same people protesting for social injustice and are very vocal about it.

Do you think none of the people at the protests have worked hard all week?
But I do think all will feel a lot worse if we start banning protesting. First it will be this, then it will be something you agree with protesting against. Just because you or anybody else doesn't agree that doesn't mean there should be a blanket ban. Ban one, ban them all, not just the ones you don't like.

I don’t think this thread has gone the way the OP intended. They started another thread branding the marches antisemitic, and when that was called out we now have this new thread to get people riled up by the policing cost.
what is your end goal @Jupitersstorm? Were you expecting some kind of Daily Mail style moral outrage? Most decent people believe protesting against genocide and calling for a ceasefire is a worthwhile cause. Did anyone query the policing cost of the march against antisemitism? No, because most decent people would argue people also have the right to protest against that too.

£20m isn’t a lot in the scheme of public spending, not for policing public assemblies at least.

There’s a much better reason for banning these marches, which is that they’re really just cover for antisemites.

No sensible person thinks Israel has done anything beyond what any other democratic, properly run state would do to protect itself and its citizens in the circumstances.

You really have to be a loathsome bigot to object to Israel defending itself. Especially after the events that led to its creation.

As a side issue, the reason there are ever more anti-Israel marches at the moment is that the ‘pro-Palestinian’ interests realise that no-one buys their argument. The great majority understand that Israel’s reaction is legitimate opposition to terrorism - terrorism by a group committed to the destruction of Israel and Jews.

Tbf France seems to have banned these protests without any claims they are a totalitarian state

Even though I wouldn’t join for various reasons I’m on the side of let them happen here in the U.K. rather than ban

I read posts like this and it honestly makes me despair. Do some people really have zero empathy. Nice to see the vast majority on here don't read the daily mail.

Why would you despair? Other than about humanity generally of course.

Hamas caused this; Hamas hides behind the innocent; Hamas has made the innocent go back to conflict that they tried to flee; Hamas is bankrolled and directed by Iran; Hamas is committed to extinguishing Jews and their homeland.

Why would you despair? Does your ‘empathy’ not extend to Jews?

These marches totally appear to be cover for anti- Semitic marches. Thousand of people out, taking safety with herd instinct ,and able to anonymously proclaim their hatred for Jews. And we, the tax payers are paying them to do so:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12849301/Hamas-vows-carry-worse-greater-terror-attacks-Israeli-civilians-chilling-new-threat-warning-hostages-executed-unless-demands-met.html

Showing support for Palestinian people who are being slaughtered is not in any way whatsoever anti semitic, or pro Hamas. It doesn’t matter how many times someone insists it is.

The marches piss off the racists who hate Muslims.

Peaceful public protests are a cornerstone of democracy.
Anti-Semitic marches are not. Therefore they should not be funded.

Take a look at this if you are not a fan of The Daily Mail:

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/anti-israel-demonstrators-display-offensive-placards-at-london-march-bq5o3sz7

Trying to brand the marches anti Semitic is getting a bit tired now.
And yes empathy can extend to both sides. What I can't do is say that what Israel is doing currently or has done in the past can constitute 'self defence'. It is way beyond a measurable response and is creating more issues then it is solving.

Jupistersstorm if you really need to feel good about your own viewpoints , read the comment sections on all your daily mail articles, there all full of people that think exactly like you do!
meanwhile in the real world there are people genuinely horrified about the war crimes Israel are committing against the Palestinian people with the support of our very own government.

Thanks, I'll take a look at the comments section.

Honestly, I have to laugh at the grandiosity of it all. The fact that you think Jews take up so much brain space in so many peoples lives that they would take to the streets in their hundreds of thousands to proclaim their hatred of them. It isn't the most obvious thing, the fact that Israel are committing war crimes and slaughtering 10s of 1000s of innocent people with the support of the British government. No, of course not, people have sat around at home just waiting for a chance to join a 'we hate Jews' march

I mean look at the news right now, a hospital under siege for days, mothers and their newborn babies killed, more babies in incubators at risk of death on top of the NICU babies Israel have killed in 2 separate hospitals already. It couldn't be that, why would it be that? It's far more likely that people just hate Jews 🙄

Hamas kill one baby and you expect the world to be outraged yet in the same breath expect the world to be silent as Israel kills 100s?

‘Grandiosity’. After slaughter by a group committed to the eradication of Jews. Right. 🙄

With regards the thread title, I'm really fed up with posters here trying to smear anyone who speaks out against a government that is happy to kill over 18000 people in retaliation for 1200 killed. I'm fed up with it all. It actually puts me against these posters and the Israeli government and population where before i had no idea what was really going on. And i know a large percentage of the Israeli population is as disgusted as me. These sorts of threads have really woken me up to the true picture of whats going on, the insidious attempts to smear and label people and ultimately shame them into silence, whilst getting louder themselves. Its not even subtle anymore, I'd say its getting a bit desperate now.

By British people or by people that Israel have been in conflict with years? There's nothing at all to suggest that 100s of 1000s of Brits have been sitting at home waiting for a chance to take to the streets to pronounce their hatred of Jews. If British people had travelled over to take part in slaughter you might a point. As far as I'm aware the only British people off to take part in slaughter are the ones off to join the IDF.

And i know a large percentage of the Israeli population is as disgusted as me.

You sure about that?

Poll results were also hawkish when it came to the use of force in Gaza: 57.5% of Israeli Jews said that they believed the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were using too little firepower in Gaza, 36.6% said the IDF was using an appropriate amount of firepower, while just 1.8% said they believed the IDF was using too much fire power, while 4.2% said they weren’t sure whether it was using too much or too little firepower.

https://time.com/6333781/israel-hamas-poll-palestine/

Seems like most israelis not only support this genocide, but wants more.

No sensible person thinks Israel has done anything beyond what any other democratic, properly run state would do to protect itself and its citizens in the circumstances.

You really have to be a loathsome bigot to object to Israel defending itself. Especially after the events that led to its creation.

Well what if you believe the Palestinians should just stay in their ghettos or, better yet, sod off to a random Arab state and not come back.

Oh and it’s fine to carpet bomb the place they’re locked into. Of course some of them will die, so sad but these things happen in war.

None of that is sensible.

Are you justifying Hamas’s slaughter? If so, why?

Are you saying that people who only turn out on the streets against Israel aren’t antisemitic, despite not opposing publicly the humanitarian concerns with countless other conflicts?

Come on. It’s obvious.

I agree that these marches whilst a nice idea in principle for wanting a ceasefire contain too many examples of anti-Semitism to allow them to continue in their present form without assurances from organisers that people bringing racist placards will be banned or warned that they are detracting sympathy from their cause.