Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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Continuing

So we should lock up entire population….just in case!!

@MercanDede it is unfortunately this attitude that led Maggie Thatcher to imprison the Irish without trial. Your Irishophobia as you rightly state.
Not that far back in our own history.
It was on our own doorstep, abhorrent then and rightly condemned and yet some still have not learned.
Dingdong….as they sang

@Parkingt111 that's the list I've seen in other places and can't remember ever seeing - civilians in the south not to attempt to return north on pain of death/injury-on any list

But maybe there is a more detailed list held by the co-signatories to the agreement that hasn't been published

If that were the case however, wouldn't one expect Israel or Qatar to put out clear information confirming the ban and potential lethal consequences?

Personally think it's an edict by IDF not part of the ceasefire agreement

There are also possible infringements around the still functioning check-point on the main north-south road where arrests have allegedly continued

Ceasefire agreements surely need to be simple clear and absolute No shooting people. No arresting people. Otherwise it causes exactly these problems and jeopardises the existence of the ceasefire. It goes without saying I have expertise in ceasefire agreements and this opinion is based on commonsense and raising teenage boys

I’ve just seen videos of the Palestinian hostages being reliesed, women and teenage boys just running into their families arms.
I hope they are safe now and will remain so and Israelis won’t harm them more than they’ve already have.

IDF has been going around WB and kidnapping more and more people.

I’m just praying that Israel will soon stop this madness.
20 000 + innocent lives already lost.
It’s disgusting.

They are not hostages, they're detained or arrested Palestinians.

Please can this be a follow on from the first thread that is just about updates regarding hostage release and detainee releases.

Vital word missing in the last para of my last post

I have NO experience in negotiating ceasefire agreements

Not quite Amnesty International, for example, have been involved in some of the cases of child detainees and campaign for their release.
Some cases, admittedly very few, are well known

I have three sons and I feel the same.
But I also feel for the male child detainees, those arrested when they were children and are now adults in Israeli prisons. Many held in solitary confinement with mental health issues brought on by prolonged incarceration. They also stand no chance of release.

We should be grateful for small mercies and the release of the vulnerable but it is still all so sad.

Okay this is a bit more re-assuring

19m ago
12.27 GMT

The International Committee of the Red Cross appears to have disowned earlier comments by its official Pascal Hundt to Sky News that he was “not confident” more hostages would be released today, by saying “all preparations for the next release continue to move forward”.

In a statement it said:

An earlier statement from an ICRC official was in no way an indication that the release operations planned for Sunday will not happen. All preparations for the next release continue to move forward. The operations are delicate and complicated and one can never be absolutely certain they will take place, given all of the complexities.

Your conditions were spot on.
Exactly as announced at the time by Qatar.

please stop what you're doing. I was talking about the Israeli hostages, which is what this thread is about.

It’s. Ery sad that the West Bank wasn’t also included in the ceasefire.
I find it unreal that this wasn’t agreed upon.
Perhaps it was discussed but not accepted
It was obvious without this inclusion that there would be increased focus on this area.
I feel for the Palestinians released that come from the West Bank, they have walked straight into a war.

We should be grateful for small mercies and the release of the vulnerable but it is still all so sad.

I've been wondering how the Israeli public will react to the end of the hostage exchange with so many left behind

Big demonstrations in Tel Aviv yesterday along the lines of Bring Them All Home Now as well as jubilation for the returnees

@Readingallnight

Likewise let’s hope those evil Hamas terrorists don’t try to repeat the hideous atrocity they carried out October 7th. Now that was disgusting and would have meant those killed since would still be alive today. I wonder if they can sleep at night knowing their savagery caused this war and will hopefully see the end of their grip on the people of Palestine.

Thread 1 was about all releases. ( Plus talks on the state of the ceasefire agreement as a natural part of it )

I lost power here last night so has something happened to the thread.
I understood this was a continuation on from the first thread.
?

Hoping the ceasefire will be extended further.
But even then another 10 released per day would mean many days of ceasefire and I just can’t see that happening.
There will be men left behind.

Earlier today Hamas said they would stop fighting if all Palestinians held in Israeli jails were released but that really is never going to happen.

Thread 1 was started by another poster, whose user name I can't find. It was a broad discussion beginning with a query on whether Israel had refused to take hostages back. Not sure of whether the continuing thread changed direction, or of etiquette myself!

Having read back over posts there seems to have been a rather ‘heated’ discussion on the nature or viability of those released from Israeli jails.
A slight derailment, perhaps this has caused this issue.
The first thread discussed all releases and the ceasefire arrangement. So I agree, as long as it doesn’t get derailed, everyone deserves a right to speak.

Have those wishing to discuss all those being released been thrown off….I really don’t know.
Perhaps OP could confirm as it’s her/ his thread ???

some small details about todays hostages

CNN is reporting that “for the first time since the temporary truce between Hamas and Israel came into effect, an American citizen is expected to be on Sunday’s list of hostages set to be released.”

Earlier Haaretz reported that Hamas is also expected to release at least one hostage with Russian citizenship. It writes “According to … sources, the release is part of a deal between the Russian government and Hamas, who sent representatives to Moscow earlier in the war.”

I’m wondering given the USs support for Netanyahu Hamas has been holding back.
They did state earlier they would be releasing any Americans but I wonder if there has been further discussions on this.

Poor girl

No Palestinian hostages - they are prisoners in jail having committed criminal offences, given a trial by a democratic state and then sentenced.

Who said that?

I didn’t call them hostages.
See my post,
Please don’t inflame.
Thankyou.

I agree.

One of the young men released today was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails (explosives) at soldiers. He immediately popped on the green Hamas headband and celebrated with them. It was on the news and there for all to see.

A bit different than a young girl released to her father after being kidnapped and held for 50 days.