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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

961 replies

StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:13

This reply has been deleted

This was deleted as it is not the spirit of the site.

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:27

Egypt has received the list of hostages and says there are 'no roadblocks'

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:27

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:27

Egypt has received the list of hostages and says there are 'no roadblocks'

That's good.

mollyfolk · 26/11/2023 14:31

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 26/11/2023 14:05

Poor girl

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Lovely video of her running into her Dad’s arms. She was in my head too mostly because she is all over the news here as she is Israeli/Irish.

It’s good news for ordinary people on both sides this weekend! Life saving aid, people held without fair trial released and hostages set free.

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 14:31

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:27

Egypt has received the list of hostages and says there are 'no roadblocks'

Excellent news

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:32

I agree.

One of the young men released today was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails (explosives) at soldiers. He immediately popped on the green Hamas headband and celebrated with them. It was on the news and there for all to see.

A bit different than a young girl released to her father after being kidnapped and held for 50 days

Same to you. Have tried googling “administrative detention”?

He “popped on” a headband did he? 🙄

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 26/11/2023 14:36

Readingallnight · 26/11/2023 14:10

I didn’t call them hostages.
See my post,
Please don’t inflame.
Thankyou.

I was replying to a post where you replied on.

See the quote history. Hope this cools you down.
Thank you.

Readingallnight · 26/11/2023 14:41

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 26/11/2023 14:36

I was replying to a post where you replied on.

See the quote history. Hope this cools you down.
Thank you.

Running threads are very tricky.
Suggest Perhaps @ the poster you are critiquing to avoid confusion as I was mistaken by your response…apologies if it offended

and not be rude to posters ie telling me to cool down is offensive.
This is a discussion forum

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 14:44

Sorry, meant to add beautiful picture of a reunited father and daughter.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:45

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:32

I agree.

One of the young men released today was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails (explosives) at soldiers. He immediately popped on the green Hamas headband and celebrated with them. It was on the news and there for all to see.

A bit different than a young girl released to her father after being kidnapped and held for 50 days

Same to you. Have tried googling “administrative detention”?

He “popped on” a headband did he? 🙄

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Well he was released for said crime. He did put a hamas headband on and was being carried by Hamas so what's your point? It's there to see.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:46

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:32

I agree.

One of the young men released today was arrested for throwing molotov cocktails (explosives) at soldiers. He immediately popped on the green Hamas headband and celebrated with them. It was on the news and there for all to see.

A bit different than a young girl released to her father after being kidnapped and held for 50 days

Same to you. Have tried googling “administrative detention”?

He “popped on” a headband did he? 🙄

Edited

Are you saying he didn't throw explosive devices then?

Perhaps a thread for hostages and a separate thread for detainees would help?

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 14:47

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:46

Are you saying he didn't throw explosive devices then?

Perhaps a thread for hostages and a separate thread for detainees would help?

Edited

I've given up bothering to even read their posts now.

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:51

Well he was released for said crime. He did put a hamas headband on and was being carried by Hamas so what's your point? It's there to see

While a lot of people detained by the Israelis may have committed some form of crime they are detained indefinitely without trial which is problematic.
Also a lot of them are apparently women and children not young men with home made bombs but it’s ok because the kids are probably going to be terrorists anyway. That is also problematic.

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:54

I've given up bothering to even read their posts now

I’m not convinced you were reading them in the first place.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 26/11/2023 14:54

Readingallnight · 26/11/2023 13:18

Having read back over posts there seems to have been a rather ‘heated’ discussion on the nature or viability of those released from Israeli jails.
A slight derailment, perhaps this has caused this issue.
The first thread discussed all releases and the ceasefire arrangement. So I agree, as long as it doesn’t get derailed, everyone deserves a right to speak.

Have those wishing to discuss all those being released been thrown off….I really don’t know.
Perhaps OP could confirm as it’s her/ his thread ???

I started this particular thread on the assumption it was discuss hostages not detainees, nor to talk about the alleged iniquities of the Israeli prison system. People can start a separate thread about that if they wish.

For the avoidance of doubt I shall ask MNHQ to change the title.

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XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 14:56

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 14:51

Well he was released for said crime. He did put a hamas headband on and was being carried by Hamas so what's your point? It's there to see

While a lot of people detained by the Israelis may have committed some form of crime they are detained indefinitely without trial which is problematic.
Also a lot of them are apparently women and children not young men with home made bombs but it’s ok because the kids are probably going to be terrorists anyway. That is also problematic.

I said none of what you are inferring and you know that, so why say that?

I was talking about one particular man, not women and children and what that particular man was arrested for (throwing explosives) and what that particular man did on release celebrated with Hamas and put on their colours. You know that too.

Why don't you just start a thread for prisoners or detainees or whatever being released. Why post of the thread for hostages? Or is it to detail? I think as other poster suggested I will just ignore and read posts about hostages in future. There are numerous pro Palestine support threads. Any chance that this could be about hostages?

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:58

If this is the only Russian hostage the Russians will be disappointed - they had 6 or 7 taken hostage and Hamas said they'd 'look for them' which didn't sound very promising at the time

But good news overall - touch wood

Hamas says it has released hostage holding Russian citizenship

Hamas says it has released a hostage who held Russian citizenship from Gaza.

The group added that it had taken the action in appreciation of Moscow’s position on the war.''

Cashncarry68 · 26/11/2023 15:02

So sad this young lady's brother wasn't released with her.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/released-hostage-maya-regev-in-moderate-condition-will-undergo-a-series-of-surgeries/

Thekirit · 26/11/2023 15:02

How sad segregation on MN being promoted.
Even non Jewish people are welcome on Jewish threads.
What on earth is happening in the world when most people just want peace.

Praying for this war to stop and for all to live side by side, even on MN

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 15:03

I said none of what you are inferring and you know that, so why day that.
I wasn’t inferring anything. I was clarifying my point which is what you asked me to do.

I was talking about one particular man, not women and children and what that particular man was arrested for (throwing explosives) and what that particular man did on release celebrated with Hamas and put on their colours. You know that too.
It looked like you were making a generalisation to me.

Why don't you just start a thread for prisoners or detainees or whatever being released. Why post of the thread for hostages?
I suppose because the two topics are linked as they are being exchanged for each other. I’m not trying to upset anyone but that post by a pp saying everyone in Israel gets a fair trail because they’re a democracy just set me off again.

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 15:03

Efacsen · 26/11/2023 14:58

If this is the only Russian hostage the Russians will be disappointed - they had 6 or 7 taken hostage and Hamas said they'd 'look for them' which didn't sound very promising at the time

But good news overall - touch wood

Hamas says it has released hostage holding Russian citizenship

Hamas says it has released a hostage who held Russian citizenship from Gaza.

The group added that it had taken the action in appreciation of Moscow’s position on the war.''

'They'd look for them' that doesn't sound promising! Although I understand that some hostages were taken by another terrorist organisation and some by Palestinian men (unaffiliated).

XRAYTHIS · 26/11/2023 15:15

@Reallifelurker go back and read my original post then. You're mistaken, no generalisation just a post about one released prisoner.

I can see why people might want separate threads when it's impossible to talk about hostage release without some pushing an agenda over and over or talking about Israeli government policies which has nothing to do with the hostages and their release.

I think I'll just ignore posts not about hostage release in future since that's what I want to find out about. I can find out people's view about the Israel government on other threads.

Reallifelurker · 26/11/2023 15:23

I can see why people might want separate threads when it's impossible to talk about hostage release without some pushing an agenda over and over or talking about Israeli government policies which has nothing to do with the hostages and their release.

Well the post of yours that I responded to mentioned a Palestinian detainee but ok. Maybe that’s your preogative.

EllaDisenchanted · 26/11/2023 15:28

Praying today they release the littlest hostages