Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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Continuing

There are LOTS of threads specifically about Gaza. Please go there or stick to the subject of this thread.

I won't reply again but I do wonder why don't you want us to even have ONE thread specifically about the plight of the Israelis suffering this nightmare?

- I've always wondered if there was a special arrangement made for this little family - crying baby and squealing toddler harder to hide/nightmare in a tunnel or even that they were 'stolen to order'

And yes the poor 'missing hostages' it's never been clear what that meant

oh the stories that are coming out are pretty horrific.

I think the lack of food is to be expected - most Gazans must be struggling to eat. So I discount that. The rest is horrific. I find it hard to understand the people on X trying to say the hostages are being treated well - why would you expect that after October 7? How does that make them respectful - even if some were treated well - it doesn’t detract from October 7. It’s really odd.

I don't have X so cannot see them but I understand its a mix of guesswork, real things and made up nonsense.

At the end of the day being kidnapped and constantly worrying for your life is enough regardless of other treatment.

I’ve no idea what’s best, but I hope that other countries accept asylum applications from these families - surely for the children a new country might be best - how can they ever feel safe in Israel again.

Those poor innocent children have been psychologically tortured. And so many of them still have kidnapped family members - how can they even begin to recover? The pure evil I have read on social media today, people gloating and laughing at these children makes me feel utter despair.

I'm not convinced Hamas will have been short of food though, unlike ordinary Gazans. Plenty of anectotes and footage of them raiding supplies meant for civilians as well.

I just saw some very sad footage of a traumatised young girl. She's so shut down she's barely reacting. Treated well my arse.

I’ve just read ABC News are reporting the hostage transfer is underway.

Confirmed by Jerusalem Post

We don't know the picture of hostages yet. So many still have family left behind so they need to 'behave' themselves, they will also have been told what to say and what not to say or the other hostages will suffer. Many of the children released are only now finding out their parents have been murdered.

oh thank goodness

Is it correct that a number of American hostages are still held?

This is an interesting one. Hamas were gaming the agreement. Qatar were playing their sort of double game, whereby they stay close to Iran and host Hamas but also want to be 'western' and suck up to powers on the other side. Anyway Qatar are pro hamas but hamas weren't listening to them. Egypt not so much and Egypt stepped in and told Hamas that they will shut off tunnels from Gaza to Egypt if the deal didn't go ahead. Hamas leaders escape plan are the Egyptian tunnels so actually it turns out that Egypt has more leverage over hamas than Qatar, Apparently Hamas has walked into that one and didn't intend to expose a weakness that could be used against them. Caveat - this is internet speculation.

9 women and one girl being released today apparently which means 8 children are still missing or being held.

I really hope the girl is Gali Taraschansky because she's only 13 and is being held without any family at all with her.

A little bit of happiness for 3 children

https://twitter.com/RazShechnik/status/1729413970669301988?t=qo0-PDTVaVOEOltBD81QSw&s=19

Most recent update I’ve seen is 9 women and 1 17 year old girl are being transferred at the moment, but transfer delayed as there is rioting around the cars with the hostages in. I can’t confirm any of this, but this source is generally reliable.

I saw a list this morning of names on a different group, but not going to post that one as I don’t think it’s a particularly reliable source.

Has anyone seen or heard anything, and can confirm/update?

Hopefully they are wrong about the rioting.

I wonder how this will play out - will groups who normally advocate globally for children's rights stay schtum like certain feminist groups did in the wake of 7/10.

I think people derailing the thread should just be ignored. They obviously have no interest in trying to behave appropriately, and trying to reason with them will get nowhere.

Yesterday they allowed the hostage cars out into areas with civilians milling around and the cars were jostled and jumped on and had to stop. There were three years olds in the cars. The crowd were despicable. Hamas knew this would happen, just wanted to max it to the end.

The actions of the "public" around the poor hostages has been pretty disgusting too

But it's just Hamas

Can you believe this? I am thrilled for her but just wait for " Hamas were so kind they let her keep her dog". Shame they killed so many other people's dogs.😡

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/28/middleeast/thomas-hand-emily-hostage-intl/index.html

Some horrifying details in this interview with Emily Hand’s father. She believed she had been held hostage for a year. She had been conditioned not to speak above a whisper and was crawling with headlice. She and other children were forced to run from house to house under gunfire during the Israeli bombing raids. She was also separated from her friend’s mother, who had been caring for her, two days before she was released.

I cried reading the article.