Jeremy Corbyn on Piers Morgan

[firstpasttheposter]

Just watched the trainwreck Jeremy Corbyn interview. I sometimes find it a bit annoying myself the way Piers talks over people when I want to hear what the guest has to say. However, surely Corbyn knows Piers' interview style? This is an experienced politician, and the question was very predictable. Had he not prepared an answer? Other guests manage the quick-fire style, still manage to get their point across and remain professional and confident - they don't just slump behind the table and sulk! Did he really think PM was going to say 'Oh, you're right! this interview style that's earned me millions is actually just bad journalism. I'll listen respectfully while you have your say and then you can ask me some questions'?

At least as far as I know hasn’t shook hands with mass murderer Netanyahu unlike many of our disgusting self serving politicians. He can be wrong about somethings but right about other things.

I just googled 'most popular politician July 2023 (yougov) and the most popular politician was Ed Balls.

Corbyn was 12th.

Those aren't things he's done?

I have pulled a shed load of articles about him from different years but yes most would be from his time as Labour leader and after that. The newspapers don't tend to write about that are not very well known. Apparently MI5 had a investigation and report on him for years before he was Labour leader though. I suppose that was a smear to you too.

At I do watch know his motivation behind his friendships because it clearly isn't what he or his fans say. So far we only really know he has a fetish for all things terrorism and extreme regimes. No hard proof of anything else. He has never achieved a peaceful outcome for anything he is involved in. Most of which has been going on for years and he has cheerlead terrorism in the mean time. So yes I do want to know his motivation. Plus what on earth made him this way.

Shame on you for smearing him with a list of things that he has done, Truly

If pushed he does make the odd criticism but it tend to be done like this in but whatabout kind of way:

Corbyn will concede that the Islamic State is “brutal, yes, some of what they have done is quite appalling” only at the same time as pointing out that “likewise, what the Americans did in Fallujah and other places is appalling.” It is the same with Britain’s own history.

In a debate in the House of Commons, Corbyn could only bring himself to say, “I have no support for ISIS whatsoever,” by raising British treatment of the Kenyan Mau Mau rebels six decades earlier, saying, “The way in which they had been treated by the British Army in Kenya in 1955 was disgusting.”

Corbyn does the same with al Qaeda. He is willing to concede that the 9/11 attacks were a tragedy only in the context of what he regards as other, equal tragedies—including Osama bin Laden’s death, the Iraq War, the “attack on Afghanistan,” the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, and the Bagram military prison.

What he hasn't received an reward for hist long and illustrious career as a peace maker

I am in shock

You have to admit whether you agree with his politics or not Ed Balls does seem very likeable. I wouldn't be upset to have him as my next door neighbour

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Jeremy Corbyn has finally described Hamas as a “terrorist group” in a magazine article after repeatedly refusing to use the term in a television interview earlier this week plus for a many years. The former Labour leader has written an article accusing the Israeli army of being guilty of “acts of terror too” of course because he can't just say his terrorist mates are wrong or not decent human beings without other siding it. That would be out of character for him after all.

Apparently all the pressure after the Piers Morgan interview has forced him to do what something he has refused to do for numerous years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/18/jeremy-corbyn-calls-hamas-terrorist-group-after-previous-demurral

Where is the condemnation for Sunak standing beside Netanyahu at the start of this and saying "I hope you win"??? All this condemnation of Corbyn is pathetic. He was never PM. Where is the calls for the Israeli army to be called terrorists? To be held accountable for their actions in the west bank? Never mind killing over 11 thousand pounds in Gaza SO FAR.
Yes hamas are terrorists but they certainly aren't the only ones in this conflict. But let's ignore that and just slate Corbyn. Because its easier than slating the people in actual charge.

The thread is about Piers Morgan's interview with Jez

Nobody has started a thread about Sunak yet I take it?

Most of us have been watching Jez for years. In my case way before he became Labour leader because I know two people that used to work with him. This means some of us are interested in Jez outside the current situation.

The Israeli army need to rein the fuck in. Netanyahu should be tried for war crimes. Sunak is a turd in a suit who will do anything he thinks might win him an extra vote or two.

Corbyn as Labour leader is one of the worst things to happen to British politics in recent years. Not the worst, but one of the worst.

There are plenty of threads on this section slating Isreal, US and UK. How did you find your way onto this one?

Firstpasttheposter I suppose it’s the same as an IDF supporter posting on threads about the thousands of murdered children. However funny people are so worried about what Jeremy Corbin has said about Hamas in the past and aren’t concerned at all about our government’s support of a government that is killing a child every 10 minutes.

I didnt realise you had to be personally invited @firstpasttheposter .

Usually on mn people respond to what they read. That's how it works. If that doesn't suit you and your bias, tough luck.

I've posted plenty of criticism of the IDF on the relevant threads. The fact that you are so offended that I started a thread on a different tack in the Conflict in the Middle East topic speaks volumes about you and says nothing at all about me or my biases.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/12/momentum-founder-jon-lansman-says-leftwingers-in-denial-about-pro-palestinian-slogans

“One of the problems is that many on the left insufficiently differentiate between Jews. They seem to categorise them as Zionists or anti-Zionists,” he said.
“In fact, British Jews have a wide range of views and very many who the left might see as ‘Zionists’ are critical of illegal settlements, the occupation, of the Israeli government and even of the conduct of the present war.”

It's a good piece. @Trulywonderful

I recall Momentum turned on him a while back although can't remember why? I've always felt a bit 'meh' about him, more negative than positive really, although I think he fundamentally means well. He was incredibly drunk on the 'movement' in its early days and then seemed a bit lost and adrift once he realised he'd created a beast with uncontrollable regional branches. He's been much more reflective on that whole period recently. Alan Johnson tearing him a new one was a sight to behold.

“Both Jews and Palestinians have been poorly served by their current leaders and need new ones to provide partners for peace,” he said.

Amen to that.

I recall Momentum turned on him a while back although can't remember why?

Because he correctly called out Jewish Voice for Labour for being a bunch of fakes.

@noblegiraffe Ah yes that was it! And he was right, they're an utter embarrassment.

Yes I found it a good honest article

I think he probably had good intentions, lost his way a bit. Then by the time he realised what a sit show was happening it was too late

Got to love Jewish voice for Labour

If you want to know what the average Jewish person thinks it is the opposite of whatever JVL has stated

@Trulywonderful Yes, I do feel a bit of sympathy for him now. If I was to guess, I reckon he probably regrets the day he first met JC.

My father definitely used to regret that

He was horrified when Jez got made leader of the Labour Party

After being a union leader and member of Labour most his life that last election before he died he suddenly couldn't vote Labour. In the end he decided to just not vote at all.

You can see why I Jez is my mastermind specialist subject can't you