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Conflict in the Middle East

Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 14:19

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen · 25/11/2023 13:18

So far the march today seems peaceful.
No sign ( that I have seen ) of the far right counter protestors who showed up on 11th November thank goodness.

There is a further stop the war march next Wednesday

Not peaceful so far - unless your definition of peaceful is an arrest "with a man arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred by carrying a placard with Nazi symbols on it. "

Carrying racist anti - Semitic placards is not peaceful.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html

Palestine rally hits London with officers watching for hate speech

Metropolitan Police officers have gathered in central London as protesters take part in a 'National March for Palestine', with Arabic-speaking officers deployed to watch for hate speech and images in the crowd.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:28

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 14:19

Not peaceful so far - unless your definition of peaceful is an arrest "with a man arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred by carrying a placard with Nazi symbols on it. "

Carrying racist anti - Semitic placards is not peaceful.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html

Agree.
A disgrace.!

However this news article was after my post.
So irrelevant to my post
You could state a fact and post the updated news without tagging mine.
Why are so many people so goady.

I will be ignoring goady posts as they simply waste space
This isn’t a competition MNs

Cashncarry68 · 25/11/2023 14:29

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen · 25/11/2023 14:14

Not sure why you’ve tagged me here.??
I referenced todays march and the 11th Nov march and presence of counter protestors.
Whats that got to do with your post.??

Please tag relevant poster as your comment is irrelevant to mine
Thankyou!

Read your post again. It looked like you were attributing peace in today's protest to the lack of 'far right' protestors. Apologies if I got that wrong.

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 14:33

I someone name changing repeatedly as I am confused...

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 14:33

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:28

Agree.
A disgrace.!

However this news article was after my post.
So irrelevant to my post
You could state a fact and post the updated news without tagging mine.
Why are so many people so goady.

I will be ignoring goady posts as they simply waste space
This isn’t a competition MNs

Hello Trulywonderfulworld.

I was replying to AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen, not you -the post I was replying to was created by AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen and not you Trulywonderfulworld.

I wasn't trying to be goady. Sorry if you felt this I was.

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:37

Apologies @Trulywonderful I keep forgetting to change my username to a n other on the thread as I previously said I would given the similarities in our names.

Sometimes I remember to change it, sometimes I forget.
Hope it’s not causing confusion for you and others here.
Must do better!

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 14:56

I think on these threads it does cause confusion.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:49

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:28

Agree.
A disgrace.!

However this news article was after my post.
So irrelevant to my post
You could state a fact and post the updated news without tagging mine.
Why are so many people so goady.

I will be ignoring goady posts as they simply waste space
This isn’t a competition MNs

So you are both Trulywonderfulworld and
AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen then

Good of you letting us all know

😁

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:51

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 14:33

I someone name changing repeatedly as I am confused...

Yep they just made a mistake and forgot to name change to the name that was tagged

😂

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 16:54

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 14:33

Hello Trulywonderfulworld.

I was replying to AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen, not you -the post I was replying to was created by AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen and not you Trulywonderfulworld.

I wasn't trying to be goady. Sorry if you felt this I was.

They are both the same poster

They have at least one other name they use on a different thread too.

I was talking to them on that thread and they told me they were Trulywonderfulworld too. We were having a laugh about my husband having the same taste in something as them and it being a small world etc

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:18

From the Mail:
young woman was reportedly holding a hand-drawn placard which read 'stop doing what Hitler did to you' - making a comparison between Israel's strikes on Gaza and the Holocaust perpetuated by the Nazis.
The police also arrested a man on suspicion of inciting racial hatred by carrying a placard with Nazi symbols on it.
Another man has been arrested on suspicion of supporting a proscribed organisation after he was filmed wearing a green headband with Arabic writing, imitating the ones that Hamas wear.
Police posted on X to say that when he was stopped by officers, 'multiple headbands' were found on him and he was arrested.
The Met also confirmed they arrested two women for a racially aggravated public order offence after they were spotted on CCTV holding 'offensive placards'.
A further four people were allegedly distributing literature featuring a swastika inside a Star of David at a stall in Whitehall - with the police saying they were arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred.
One placard at the protest displayed a picture of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer under the word 'Genocide', while another had a picture of leaders of the G7 above the phrase 'War criminals on the run'.
A sign was held which accused the UK government of backing genocide which included photos of Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, ex-Home Secretary Suella Braverman, PM Rishi Sunak and Labour leader Keir Starmer photoshopped to make it look as if they have blood on their hands.
A giant Palestinian flag was also unfurled and carried alongside The Cenotaph war memorial in Whitehall, which itself was decorated with poppies two weeks on from Armistice Day."

Stop these bloody marches now - horrible people converging on London every Saturday leading up to Xmas - give people a break now, you idiots.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html"

Palestine rally hits London with officers watching for hate speech

Thousands of pro-Palestine protesters flooded the streets of Central London shouting the controversial 'from the river to the sea' chant' with children as young as five joining in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790169/Cops-line-streets-Palestine-rally-hits-London-amid-four-day-ceasefire-Gaza-police-make-arrest-warning-Arabic-speaking-officers-watching-hate-speech-crowd.html%22

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:25

All going swimmingly again today I see. It doesn't take much to just stick to the pre designed signs to hide any bad faith actors and promote the same narrative. It really doesn't. However some cannot help themselves again. Hopefully they are least can refrain from throwing fireworks at people again tonight.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:39

Trulywonderfulworld · 25/11/2023 14:37

Apologies @Trulywonderful I keep forgetting to change my username to a n other on the thread as I previously said I would given the similarities in our names.

Sometimes I remember to change it, sometimes I forget.
Hope it’s not causing confusion for you and others here.
Must do better!

Man, I apologised to you because you thought I was being goady - yet you apologise to trulywonderful for changing your user name in replying to me!

You just outed yourself as a poster with two plus usernames. I hope MN bans you for this.

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:39

You're allowed multiple usernames on MN. You're supposed to stick to one on a thread.

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:45

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:39

You're allowed multiple usernames on MN. You're supposed to stick to one on a thread.

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

I thought name changes were allowed but not multiple usernames?

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:52

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:39

Man, I apologised to you because you thought I was being goady - yet you apologise to trulywonderful for changing your user name in replying to me!

You just outed yourself as a poster with two plus usernames. I hope MN bans you for this.

They are also AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen

and folkhandlesnotfourcandles (which is something funny my husband refers to occasionally, hence why I made a comment and they said they were also Truly and we had spoken before

So at least 3 usernames I know about. Goodness knows how many more they have we don't know about

People are allowed to have more than one username though

noblegiraffe · 25/11/2023 17:55

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

you don’t need multiple email addresses, you can do it from one account. Above the posting box it says ‘your username’ and you can use whichever of your names you want.

I don’t do this btw, I can’t be arsed with name changing, but it’s allowed. Some people have different usernames for different boards for example.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:58

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 17:45

Really - so one user can have multiple sign ups and usernames? And sign up with multiple email addresses and be lots of different posters in one thread but the same person?

I thought name changes were allowed but not multiple usernames?

I can go back and use a previous name anytime I choose and then come back to this one. I don't choose to do that but I could. So yes people can just switch uo names several times a day in theory

I am surprised you didn't know this. We have several users on different threads literally thanking themselves or agreeing with their own post in a different name often. Start looking for patterns in how users post and speak/write. It is easier for some of us that are need to spot when kids have copied homework

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 18:12

I think it's frowned upon to be more than one person on a thread.... sock puppetry at its finest. Also I would doubt the validity of your argument if you are the only person agreeing with yourself!

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:23

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 17:58

I can go back and use a previous name anytime I choose and then come back to this one. I don't choose to do that but I could. So yes people can just switch uo names several times a day in theory

I am surprised you didn't know this. We have several users on different threads literally thanking themselves or agreeing with their own post in a different name often. Start looking for patterns in how users post and speak/write. It is easier for some of us that are need to spot when kids have copied homework

I know all this. I was suggesting that some people might be creating numerous sign ups with multiple email addresses and then use these user names to agree with each other or tag team - rather than change their user names with their primary and single log in. You just need to have two browser windows or tabs open.

GreekDogRescue · 25/11/2023 18:32

HalebiHabibti · 14/11/2023 07:40

As a white middle class person whose father is Syrian and who grew up in the Middle East, I'm not sure the above statement applies to me.

Life in a free Palestine would at the very least (one presumes) have more water and direct roads available.

Nobody is stopping Palestinians having their own water supply. Why not set up desalination plants like Israel has done.

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:33

Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:23

I know all this. I was suggesting that some people might be creating numerous sign ups with multiple email addresses and then use these user names to agree with each other or tag team - rather than change their user names with their primary and single log in. You just need to have two browser windows or tabs open.

Edited

Oh sorry

Well yes I would assume that too. It doesn't take much to get a second or third email address does it. Also that way mumsnet cannot check if you are the same user etc

I think it is possible some people could do all these things. Have a couple of usernames per account and a couple of accounts.

We sound like conspiracy theorists now 😂However evidence does support this theory and it has been done in the past (Covid).

Humdingerydoo · 25/11/2023 18:33

The man being arrested was the one wearing what looks like a green Hamas headband. This "hostile crowd" is one of the main reasons for the relatively low amount of arrests during previous marches. Looks like the police were right to be cautious.

Shocked by the racist signs at marches
Jupitersstorm · 25/11/2023 18:37

Trulywonderful · 25/11/2023 18:33

Oh sorry

Well yes I would assume that too. It doesn't take much to get a second or third email address does it. Also that way mumsnet cannot check if you are the same user etc

I think it is possible some people could do all these things. Have a couple of usernames per account and a couple of accounts.

We sound like conspiracy theorists now 😂However evidence does support this theory and it has been done in the past (Covid).

No need to apologise.

I think this is what happened with the earlier post as the original poster replied to a thread with a different user name which would suggest a user with multiple email addresses and user names and made a mistake! Otherwise why bother to reply to your own post with a changed user name?

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