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Conflict in the Middle East

Shocked by the racist signs at marches

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Pigeotto · 14/11/2023 07:14

Maybe I’m just severely naive but I’m honestly just shocked at the levels of racism of some of the signs at these marches. It’s just caught me really, really off guard.

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etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:47

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:44

And now we have an attempt to force all councillors to vote for a ceasefire at threat of their names being publicly released:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

It's all a bit 'listy' isn't it.

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 21:52

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:46

@Trulywonderful I find it more satisfying to ignore now. I used to think tackling their antisemitism head-on was the best approach. But they're not interested in listening anyway, and what they really, really want is a reaction. So just ignore and don't give them it.

Yup, it's the only way. I've had to stop posting as some people on this topic are just 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Specially on that thread about misinformation where only posts about how evil Israel is are allowed 😂 Utterly pathetic.

Meanwhile my 7 year old has a school trip into London this week and they're having to take security with them instead of parent helpers as it's a Jewish school. Oh what fun!

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:56

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:46

@Trulywonderful I find it more satisfying to ignore now. I used to think tackling their antisemitism head-on was the best approach. But they're not interested in listening anyway, and what they really, really want is a reaction. So just ignore and don't give them it.

Sometimes and sometimes no. That was more me explaining to anyone reading why that post was antisemitism and what the poster was saying to wiggle out of it etc. I try to always remember that more people read mumsnet than actually post on it. During covid I used to get private messages for users that said they only read posts. These people would thank me for my posts or wanting to ask me a question. Giraffe will probably say my head is too big now but I think this has made me post in a more educational way on occasion.

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 21:59

@Humdingerydoo sorry seems inadequate but I am sorry that's his reality at the moment. It's not fair.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 21:59

@Humdingerydoo Yup, some (actually many) of them are too far gone now. Literally across all these threads. And they've learned how to put their points across without doing an explicit antisemitism as it were, so it's just pointless. It's totally blatant to others anyway because they're not as clever as they think they are.

Oh gosh, I hope your little one has a good time in London. It's awful they effectively need a 'security detail' at that age. It feels scarcely believable this is happening. X

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:05

@Trulywonderful FWIW I for one am very appreciative of all your posts.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:07

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 21:52

Yup, it's the only way. I've had to stop posting as some people on this topic are just 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Specially on that thread about misinformation where only posts about how evil Israel is are allowed 😂 Utterly pathetic.

Meanwhile my 7 year old has a school trip into London this week and they're having to take security with them instead of parent helpers as it's a Jewish school. Oh what fun!

Oh I took the misinformation misinformation thread off my list. It is amusing the misinformation misinformation going on in some posts but I haven't got time for that. We did a stella job during lockdown and now someone else or mumsnet can manage the looney toons and trolls.

Goodness fancy needing security for a school trip. So sorry that is the case.

London during the week is fine really. Not a sign of anything that is going on in most places here. I sometimes go up near Edmonton to visit a friend. Yesterday I stopped at a big Tescos there to get a few things on my way, which I have done before. It was really nice to see all the religious Jewish people and all the Muslim people just their walking about doing their shopping. Not nasty looks or weirdness. Just reminded me most people in London mix and are not like what we are seeing on here or at some protests.

mixgoal · 19/11/2023 22:09

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:44

And now we have an attempt to force all councillors to vote for a ceasefire at threat of their names being publicly released:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1726216163238269046

So they'll add your name you anonymously if you don't want to publicly support a ceasefire, but they'll publish a list of people who didn't add their names. How does that work then?

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 22:22

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 21:56

Sometimes and sometimes no. That was more me explaining to anyone reading why that post was antisemitism and what the poster was saying to wiggle out of it etc. I try to always remember that more people read mumsnet than actually post on it. During covid I used to get private messages for users that said they only read posts. These people would thank me for my posts or wanting to ask me a question. Giraffe will probably say my head is too big now but I think this has made me post in a more educational way on occasion.

Mate, until you've had a campaign to ban you from MN for posting in an educational way, you're small fry Wink

I learned a long time ago to just report the obvious shit for deletion. No point in engaging when it will be deleted anyway, and you can save your energy for the more subtle arseholes.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:26

Does anyone have any links to twitter showing footage of this? If you scroll down to the bottom of the page on it their are photos of the people the police want to find.

“As soon as the convoy was spotted, a plan was put in place quickly to ensure the convoy would not reach areas where its presence would inevitably cause alarm and intimidation.

“Our enquiries have not only revealed the extent of their dangerous antics on major roads, they’ve also established the group had plans to move on from Exhibition Road to the Israeli Embassy off Kensington High Street.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/met-appeals-for-information-after-convoy-blocks-major-roads-475507

Met appeals for information after convoy blocks major roads

Officers are appealing for the public’s help to identify 15 people who took part in a pro-Palestinian convoy that stopped traffic on the A13 and the...

https://news.met.police.uk/news/met-appeals-for-information-after-convoy-blocks-major-roads-475507

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 22:26

Meanwhile my 7 year old has a school trip into London this week and they're having to take security with them instead of parent helpers as it's a Jewish school.

This is just heartbreaking. The headteacher telling kids they didn't have to wear their blazers right at the start of this really got me. That was just a few days after the Hamas attacks, before Israel had really retaliated, and Jewish children were already unsafe as a result.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:31

@Trulywonderful This? https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1726341772119294313

Just read the article - 80 cars!

https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1726341772119294313

Rubbishagain · 19/11/2023 22:33

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz2BD1Cr5du/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
again you discuss trivial gossip while children are dying. Who cares about starmer

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz2BD1Cr5du/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:39

Our enquiries have not only revealed the extent of their dangerous antics on major roads,

Sounds like it was lucky they didn't kill anyone

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:41

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:31

@Trulywonderful This? https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1726341772119294313

Just read the article - 80 cars!

If I click on it it goes to a police page but that only has screenshots of the suspects

Is there any way of viewing the footage or has anyone got a link to it on social media. I am not on twitter myself

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 22:43

@Trulywonderful I am only getting screen shots too. What a dangerous situation!

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:45

Doesn't seem to be any published or witness videos, not on Twitter anyway.

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 22:46

I don't understand what they were trying to achieve with this convoy. They're just thugs, there to intimidate 🥴

That thing earlier about the emails being sent to all the councillors, blackmailing them into supporting a ceasefire - who sent it?

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:47

This guy - and he's trying backtrack his way out of it now!

https://twitter.com/JamesGilesRBK

https://twitter.com/JamesGilesRBK

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 22:48

This convoy? Or a different one?

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1726179129769546020?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

(not that I particularly want to link to Turning Point UK)

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1726179129769546020?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 22:55

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 22:47

This guy - and he's trying backtrack his way out of it now!

https://twitter.com/JamesGilesRBK

That's hilarious! Yes, of course it's obvious that you won't do that thing you expressly said you would do. Of course we all got that 😂🤔 Absolute numpty.

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 22:58

Stomacharmeleon · 19/11/2023 22:43

@Trulywonderful I am only getting screen shots too. What a dangerous situation!

Apparently the police acted quickly once they were informed 80 cars with flags were in convoy. After last time they wanted to stop them accessing Jewish neighbourhoods. They seem to have had a plan to do a drve through etc and then head to the Israeli Embassy.

etmoiandme · 19/11/2023 23:00

Humdingerydoo · 19/11/2023 22:55

That's hilarious! Yes, of course it's obvious that you won't do that thing you expressly said you would do. Of course we all got that 😂🤔 Absolute numpty.

I mean, someone has even quoted the actual letter back to him and he's still denying that's what he meant! 😂

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 23:02

The video of the cars beeping with the loudhailer till 2am, whose hearts and minds are they winning there?

Trulywonderful · 19/11/2023 23:07

noblegiraffe · 19/11/2023 22:48

This convoy? Or a different one?

https://x.com/tpointuk/status/1726179129769546020?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

(not that I particularly want to link to Turning Point UK)

It was A13 and the Limehouse Link from what the police are saying about the dangerous driving.

However those houses look like they could have been near their from my memory of that part of London. So this footage maybe before or after that.

Quiet little things aren't they

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