Be aware of misinformation seen regarding Palestine

[whatswrongwiththeworldddd]

There's a lot of misinformation/propaganda spreading around and this thread is to raise awareness of the ones circulating. Here's one for example:

www.instagram.com/p/Czh2sF_LaUp/?igshid=anFmemQ3OGxpMGpu

Please share any you come across.

But is the cat in the box or is the cat not in the box?

Schroeder would have something to say about this.

I'm sure it would help clarify everything.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the ‘extensive network of Hamas tunnels’ and ‘major bases’ under hospitals turn out to be Gaza’s equivalent of Iraq’s WMD.

Amnesty International reported the misuse of hospitals by Hamas in 2015?

"In a 2015 report, Amnesty said Hamas had commandeered a disused outpatient clinic at al-Shifa to interrogate, torture and kill opponents, in what Hamas enforcers dubbed “Operation Strangling Necks”.
The victims were people accused of collaborating with Israel, or of working with the rival Palestinian Fatah movement.
Abandoned areas of Shifa hospital “including the outpatients’ clinic area”, were used “to detain, interrogate, torture and otherwise ill-treat suspects, even as other parts of the hospital continued to function as a medical centre”, the Amnesty report noted.
One Fatah activist told Amnesty he suffered two hours’ torture at the outpatients’ clinic, being beaten with a hammer while blindfolded and trussed.
The report, which investigated dozens of extrajudicial executions by Hamas’s “internal security” agents, also said victims’ bodies would be dumped at Shifa’s morgue so that families could collect them. Many bore signs of torture and multiple gunshot wounds.
Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa director, said at the time that Hamas’s actions were “spine-chilling” and “in some cases amount to war crimes”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/12/hamas-keeping-civilians-in-hospitals-gaza-netanyahu/ (paywalled so I've copied the relevant bit)

Yes, I'm sure it's all completely imaginary. Obviously part of Israel's cunning plan for world domination at the expense of "brown" people (to borrow terminology from many pro-P posters).

To be fair I'd have no idea, I've never set foot in Gaza. Have you?

Not even Hamas deny there being tunnels.

There's just so much you can unpick in the video they posted, I do think it's been staged. The X post photos isn't very clear on what they are circling though but I did wonder if the medical aid the IDF said they were bringing in were in fact props for the video.

The missiles in this video look awfully like the ones in the videos they posted of them writing on.

x.com/IDF/status/1725188551321461026?s=20

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You can find videos of Hamas conducting interviews from their tunnels on YouTube. They have even given journalists little tours of their tunnel next work. I mean even Grant from Eastenders got to go have a look and did a documentary on the tunnels. A lot of links to YouTube or interviews or information about them was on the thread about Hamas Tunnels. Israel knows there are definitely chambers built below the hospital because they used them themselves before 2005. It makes total sense that they have information saying Hamas now uses these ready made tunnels and chamber. If I was Hamas I would have picked them to use too as they are better constructed than the ones fighters build themselves.

Come on @whatswrongwiththeworldddd , enough now. You really shouldn't start a thread about misinformation and then go on spreading a bunch of it yourself. Stop spreading your own theories and start spreading facts instead. It's honestly ridiculous.

It has lightened the mood and given us all a laugh though. So you have to thank OP for that

Just an idea maybe OP is Piers Corbyn 😁

Yes, the tunnels are well known, since Israeli architects built a command room and connecting tunnels in 1983 - according to wiki. It's very strange the media, are even pondering it. I think Hamas probably would use them, but also that, as I assume Israel has the original plans, they wouldn't place an HQ somewhere so obvious. Time will tell, I suppose.

Rockets look like rockets? Are you a rocket expert and know about different rocket brands? I don't. No idea.

One thing I've learned from extensive research of conspiracy websites is that they will show you a picture and then ask you a question like 'don't these look like Israeli rockets?' or 'does this look to you like a plane hit the Pentagon?' Or 'do you think if a plane hit the tower it would collapse like this?' Or 'if millions of Jews were supposedly killed during the Holocaust, why are the concentration camp ID numbers only six digits?'

And because you don't have the particular expertise to answer the question with any accuracy, you end up concluding what they want you to conclude. You need more knowledge than your average person possesses to actually answer the question properly, so you end up duped. People should look out for it.

Except the boxes thing, that's just stupid.

Yet the IDF can't find them? Maybe they should have called Grant in to search the hospital. I swear the IDF are the dumbest army in the world. Can't find the headquarters at the hospital, even though they did a wee Minecraft style video of where they are. Can't read Arabic so can't tell the difference between people's names and the days of the week. Have used 40 bombs an hour since the start of the conflict but Hamas are still firing at Israel. What on earth do they use all of their aid money for? It certainly isn't training up their army that's for sure. Maybe they use it on dance lessons for all of their tiktoks. A joke of an 'army'.

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

A better idea would have been to use and release body cam footage of the evidence they found as soon as they found it. Not after finding them.

If the video wasn't staged, why edit a video you said wasn't cut or edited?

Hamas have booby-trapped the tunnels. Just like they did homes and slaughtered bodies in Israel on 7th October. IDF are obviously not going to willingly walk in to a trap 🤦🏻‍♀️

Why bother with body cams? Hamas used then and people still deny the atrocities they committed. And anyway, they obviously can't show live footage as it would put their soldiers in danger. Do you really not understand that?

@noblegiraffe

Rockets look like rockets? Are you a rocket expert and know about different rocket brands? I don't. No idea.

A quick google search will show you not all missile rockets look the same. I highly doubt Hamas would have the same level of weapons used by the IDF.

So you are a rocket expert after a 'quick google of rockets'?

Well in that case why hasn't the IDF gone straight there and caught Hamas already? If Grant can get there then so can the IDF.

I believe Grant set up a whole network there (he had to become fluent in Arabic, but you've seen these EastEnders on Strictly, they pick things up very quickly) and set up an important meeting with a really lovely banquet and had all the hostages lined up, all healthy and just waiting to walk out, and Hamas ready to shake hands with everyone, but Netanyahu told IDF not to accept the invitation because he prefers to wipe out Palestine. Something like that, anyway.

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