Anti Semetism IS happening

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and in my opinion it's a direct result of people turning a blind eye to and excusing the horror of hamas and everything they stand for. It's allowed open season on anti Jewish hate. This has happened TODAY in France.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/04/woman-stabbed-lyon-france-antisemitic-attack-israel-hamas/

...the peace marchers (and yes a nasty fringe element can be attracted to any protests

These aren't peace marches per se but pro Palestine marches and so inevitably antisemites will be attracted to them. They're hardly a fringe element. You cannot reframe a march to make it what you would like it be seen as.

There's some crazy evil people on here.

God help you all. And I hope none of you ever have to go through what I have seen all these parents go through. Burying your child for some dictators pleasure and greed.

Shame on you all.

I hope there won't be a massive load of trouble this weekend and those on the marches are a huge mix of different people from British Corbynites to some Hamas supporters to some fed anti Jewish propaganda from the cradle in UK fundamentalist mosques.

The police are saying the marches in London will avoid areas where we are remembering the WWI and II deaths so hopefully that will work out okay. I agree that there will be people on both sides although the fact poppy sellers (often elderly) in the UK seem to be avoiding stations because of harrassment from pro palestinians is not a good sign for freedoms.

On this point
"There's a deep irony that we cannot exercise freedoms because it is disrespectful to those that died to give us those freedoms..>" my view is as it was for the coronation. There is a time and place. If once in 70 years those of us who are monarchists are out there for the Queen's Funeral or coronation of the King it may be a good time to lay off the protests; just as I am against protestors right by abortion clinics where vulnerable women are sneaking in to abort a baby; and similarly on the one day a year we remember the war dead - if the marches could stop as a sign of respect that would be good. Perhaps Just stop oil could use it as a day to block every palestinian march in its tracks as they have been doing so much road blocking recently in London.

Shame on them for being concerned about rising anti-Semitism?

@starborne no. Shame on the people justifying the genocide on here. Trying to say pro palestinian marches are anti semitic. They really aren't.

As Douglas Murray asked Piers Morgan, If you went on a march for good reasons but found you were marching with the BNP calling for the death of all black people, would you go on the march in week 2?

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc I am not really sure who you are talking about?
Do you mean Israeli parents burying their children after being murdered at a peaceful rave? Or the whole families murdered in the kibbutz attacks?
Some dictators? What dictators?

I have just seen ( I think it was sky news but i may be mistaken) that it says half of all people in the uk polled do not want the marches to go ahead on armistice day.

I think it could be very divisive.

It's been reported that 50% of the march's organisers have links to Hamas. Other groups such as the Convoy4Palestine, who drove around London shouting anti-Semitic intimidation before, are also planning to go. I think the march is in deliberate poor taste but I don't think it should be banned. Those attending can't claim that they aren't standing shoulder-to-shoulder with a considerable contingent of Islamofascists; they need to acknowledge it and own it. I hope everyone caught being violent, destructive and threatening is arrested (and that includes any EDL types who, let's face it, will probably pick on some inane but well-meaning types and not their counterpart Islamist thugs). I really hope the security services are watching the crowd so they know who is likely to be planning October 7th style massacres for some UK village or small town. When some of these people commit acts of terrorism, I hope people remember who they marched with.

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Indeed. Salman Abedi, who killed 22 people in a terrorist attack at Manchester Arena, was pictured at a Palestinian solidarity campaign rally two years before the attack.
I agree it shouldn’t be banned but those attending should be very concerned with the organisers links and as a result, the kind individual that will be attracted to attend.

The organisers can say they will avoid the cenotaph but you can guarantee the trouble makers will head there. The Met have got this wrong.

I saw some cadets selling poppies verbally attacked this week in Bury Town centre. One of them was crying.

Tensions are very high, for sure.

That is just shocking. The abusers are fortunate to have got away with that. Put a couple of heavies there and it would have been a different matter.

Agree, the main March will stay to the route and probably largely be uneventful apart from the nasty placards and chanting. But afterwards? That’s when the issues start and I fully expect groups of people to splinter off and head to the places they have been told not to go.

You just know it. It will be a different matter on Sunday because the cowards won't even try to take on our armed forces. Would love to see them try, with the King being present. Security will be top notch.

What a great question!!

Can't get over those poor cadets being harassed for selling poppies. 😢 I bet the parents of the one who was crying are fuming.

All this is so sad

Some-one who talks derogatorily about a ‘Pro-Israel mindset’ is a lot closer to the ‘whipping up hate’ politicians they deride, than the ‘pro-peace’ activists they claim to admire.

Indeed. Can't take that post seriously when rememberance is placed in equivalents to those marches.

Shame on you all???

Who exactly.

I'm not ashamed.

I "loved" this clip from
Twitter

British students and they haven't the first clue

x.com/visegrad24/status/1722559581082046941?s=46&t=En7uHsBtveeyWz6jMQkU-A

They're organised by supporters and members of Hamas to advance the aims of Hamas. One of the aims of Hamas is the obliteration of the jewish people. You don't get more antisemitic than that.

There are certainly ill minded people, anti-Semitic people, and those with extremist interest who have joined the march. There is no denying they are there. They are virtually nothing in a sea of 500,000 people who are marching for Gaza to live. Simply live. Not from the river to the sea. Not at with the annihilation of Israel.

Many who attend aren’t even partially versed on the drawn out conflict between Israeli and Palestinian governments through the decades. But people do see the suffering right now through war on Gaza, which is a sustained attack on innocent people, which is - and I stress this point - supported by our government. The vast majority of marchers want the war to stop. They are lobbying their government to do that.

If our governments supported an ongoing bombardment of Israel, you can bet 500,000 people would turn up to support the existence of Israel. I absolutely would be one of them.