Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

I laughed too at the , "If I remember!" Very funny - we know you'll do it - just make sure you come on here and tell us asap

My youngest had a dreadful case of nappy rash once when he was teething. he fell asleep in the pushchair in the garden and did a horrendous acidic type poo. By the time he awoke and I changed him he had blisters. the worst of it was we had to go and see his specialist about his asthma the next day. It was his first appointment with the doc and he of course commented on the blisters. he'd never had them before or since - typical though that it ended up on his notes. I felt like it was my fault of course - because I am MAD!

We were advised to let him run about in the garden without a nappy to let the air get to it but that might not work if you are in the middle of winter gum. Hope he's better soon. Good luck with the acupuncture.

Hi again,
yes second the nappy-free time, with baby legs on or something, as it's Winter. I'm kind of thinking your Winter is like our Summer anyway Gum so he would be fine with nakeybums.
You probably know all this, after having a herd of children, but humour us.

OOPPSSE embarrassing I just posted this message, below, onto the other thread, assisted conception, where we rarely talk sex as our attempts are clinical not spontaneous, usually, well, mine are!!!!!

Hi all it looks like ages since I really said hello to everyone so HELLO EVERYONE I am rushing off so no time to name check but you all know who you are!

I do hope everyone is OK and getting where they need to get,

If you want great sex without intent, make sure your hubby goes away for three days, you watch Sex and the City three times and then wear a low cut top and knickers and no slanket!

Had a chat with the friend who upset me (she said I had got my answer about having another baby, or words to that affect); she knew it would upset me but felt she should say it. That is fine, I respect her and we can now put it behind us, I just needed her to know how much she had upset me by saying it. I know it may well be time to move on but sadly no one else can really tell you that except maybe your dh/dp/oh and maybe the doc if you really need to know the truth! I think the docs were right about me all those years ago (4 years ago) when they said I wouldn?t have another baby with my own eggs but there are probably a few women out there who were told the same thing and have managed to so it is quite a gamble!

I am still keen on adoption but I think I was a bit exaggerating when I said on the other thread that I was ?... ready to move on to adoption!? I am still 50/50, 50% wanting to adopt and 50% wanting to rush off to Spain for treatment!

Sorry this is a bit me, me, me but I have given you my top sex tip so hope that is OK!

As we say on the assisted conception thread... Love and chocolate boobs to all

Gum Sudacreme is miracle cream, it comes in small grey tubs or big grey tubs.

THIS is a nappy rash tip not a sex tip.

italian I was just about to rush out and use the sudacrem when i realised it WASN'T a sex tip!! ha ha

Sorry everyone - big moan coming up -

I am seriously stuggling today. Don't know if any of you remember but when i had my MMC in feb there were 2 other ladies at work who were at the exact same stage as me. Well of course they are now about 32 weeks - AS I SHOULD BLOODY WELL BE .

Big bellies and waddles etc.

yesterday they were selling baby clothes in the foyer at work (sometimes it's jewellery or candles etc). Anyway, managed to walk through with 1 preggie friend and had a look at the clothes for HER baby then wandered back with the other preggie freind and had a look for HER baby. Wanted to throw myself on the floor, bang my fists on the floor and shout, "What about the 2 babies I've lost????" But managed not to do it.

Thene went toa CV workshop with both of them (we are all being made redundant soon) and there was lots of talk about how they didn't need a job they had a very important job coming up ha ha ha.

Can't stop thinking about it and want to cry but am at work so wont.

I think it will be better when I no longer have to look at their bellies. Having said that I am friends with both of them so will HAVE to see the new borns when they arrive.

Sorry for such a moany personal rant. It's good to have you lot to chat to.

doubleshot all ok - any symptoms yet?

jolly you're quiet - all ok???

Thanks to everyone on the good wishes. I'm not joining any antenatal threads yet though Here I go with a determined effort to catch up with everyone (with a little help from mac's utilities/textedit!)

jollster: lol at "madwife", quite accurate really. at 6+1 wks you're further along than I am and have more symptoms too! Lucky you, being nauseous, though you may not feel so lucky ;)

rowing: lucky you, flying away. Check out moneysavingexpert's top tips on not paying a penny extra on budget flights. Involves wearing a many-pocketed jacket to avoid baggage fines and more.

gum: Sorry to hear about your cousin, but not all types of cancer/tumours are genetic. Both my grandmom (who's passed away) and my dad (who's in remission) had stomach cancer. But I don't believe its genetic (none of my mom's family had any cancer) and I'm fighting any possibility. You can start too anticancer living

Italian: You don't have to stop trying, I know it's hard, but try to think of having a regular period and fairly regular cycle as a positive thing. I did, and keeping a diligent chart (using fertilityfriend's free iphone app) even helped me pin down a very short luteal phase. Which I was on the verge of having investigated, blood tests etc, when BFP happened. For fear of sounding a bit fascist, I'd say don't give up, cos as long as you have AF/cycles your body is ready for baby-making... (well, maybe when you're 60 and a bit you can stop, but not just yet ;) )

Hippy: pleased you're back to the SWI, I knew you'd never give up, girl. Try the Preseed yet? Not the best for spontaneousness though. We only managed to use it once this last cycle :D - oh, and we're loving the Mentalist too, though its so well-behaved for a murder mystery and why does he wear those waistcoats...?

Pollyanna: LOl, DH's are so alike (eek!!) they're never up for it when most needed. All sorts of tactical planning is required to get them to do their duty. Unfortunately, dowsing them with wine is out, since we want only the top quality (i.e. undiluted with alcohol) troops. And then, we have the best SWithoutI later in the month. Sigh...

Lunaticfringe: Hello we haven't 'met' but your er... name reminds me of my current haircut No going to have-roots-done now.

Gum: :O at your poor baby's nappy rash. I felt ill with worry when DD had it once when teething. We found Weleda Calendula was the most soothing (and smells divine). The key being to make sure the poor bot was all dry before applying, maybe using a bit of baby powder too.

p.s.: I'm already coming off the coffee(s) and chocolate(s) almost threw up the caramel Green& Black's DH bought me as a treat. I suppose its good...but boohooohoooo.... coffeeeeeee....

Hmmm, I've started taking Zita West pregnancy supplements (been on pregnacare pst month). But I see it only has 200% RDA folic acid. Shouldn't it be 400% ?

Oh dear, and it was so expensive too. Should I have extra folic acid?

p.s.: Sooo tired, dreading walk to DD's nursery....

Just a quickie...Doubleshot panic-not - 200% of RDA for general pop. 100% for pregnant women. It's 4OO IU or whatever unit it's measured in which is what's recommended ((have just checked mine!),same as pregnacare, etc etc. Hope this helps!Don't forget to take 2 a day, only downside (that and bright yellow wee.
ps: I'm loving all this slanket talk - if sales shoot up we can take the credit!

Been away for few days so just trying to catch up

Rainbow, so very sorry to hear your news, hope someone is taking very good care of you in RL.

Well done DoubleShot

Have started acupuncture, really enjoyed it in a weird kind of way, made me feel very cheerful all of a sudden but maybe that was just because I got to lie down for half an hour in a darkened room with no interruptions

Italian no I'm not Italian (IYSWIM) know what you mean about the greyhounds though, always had a bit of a soft spot for pointy dogs myself!

Lovely to see you're back Rowing, can understand you feeling like putting off the next step a while, its so intense what you've been going through.

Going off now to google slanket...

well at the risk of tmi, my "accidental" wearing of the revealing dress worked a treat. unfortunately no ov yet, so need to think of another accidental seduction technique (dh will be too suspicious of said dress now!).

hippychick know how you feel. we went out for lunch in our team yesterday for someone who is leaving to go on mat leave - she was behind me (due in Sept). It is very difficult at the moment for me as I am close to my due date (ish) and surrounded by pg people. I really thought, back in Feb, that I would be pg again by now. I think I am finding it more difficult now than I did in Feb when I had the mmc.

italian I can't imagine how difficult it is to come to a conclusion on this decision - I think 50% is pretty good tbh!

rowing good luck to you - where is the clinic?

gum what did you decide about the funeral in the end?

Thanks, Diege, so I'll be having 2 x the vits per day now (expensive wee, my GP calls it)

On the subject of vits. I was using Pregnacare conception and then when I got my BFP I used them up and bought the ones for when you're pregnant (the ones with 2 tabs - 1 is omega 3).

Anyway, when I lost the pregnancy I thought I might as well use them up (how sad to not even get through a whole pack ) stop being maudlin Hippy and ask the question!

So I just carried on with the already pregnant ones and thought I'd get pre-conception again next time (The people who assess what you buy at Tescos must wonder why I keep switching!).

But I had a look on their website tonight and there are these in the pre-conception (that are not in the already pregnant ones):-

Inositol ? Inositol may help support ovarian function and influence fertility. It is involved in the cell signalling pathway which influences fertilization and cell growth.

L-Arginine ? Well known as a precursor in nitric oxide (NO) metabolism, L-arginine can influence release of the egg from the ovaries (follicular release) as well as healthy follicular blood flow and implantation.

N-acetyl cysteine ? A precursor of glutathione, an important antioxidant in the body. N-acetyl cysteine is also important for healthy cervical secretions.

Now I'm panicking that I will get pregnant this month and wont have the benefit of the above nutrients (and will MC). But I am loath not to try this month - cos I wanna get back in to it.

Do you think it makes a lot of difference??

Sorry for the extremely long ramble.

I am so hot tonight I feel like I'm wearing a slanket!!

Hubbie suggested we might like to get jiggy tonight - i coyly agreed that it would be nice (once the boys are asleep) but made out it wasn't SWI (but you and I know that it could be ).

Yeah Lunatic you remembered Many congrats - you must feel great
Hippy It will make absolutely no difference to a future pregnancy if you don't take the preconception ones The preganancy ones are fine,trust me. It sounds like you are doing what we all do after a trauma- entiely normal anxieties about the teeny tiny things because they're something 'real' to cling too (mine was hair dye!).Don't waste your money on new ones!
Feeling very period-y here, and fully expecting af by Monday . Still, can;t complain - I can fully enjoy my horseriding day on Sat without worrying about any potential 'dislodging'

Hi guys - back from getting jiggy. We came downstairs to watch the big bang theory - how ironic

lunatic Yay - well done. Hope all goes well for you.

diege Ta very much for your moment of sanity. i know that whether i take one lot of preg vits or another slightly different one will not make or break the next pregnancy (if there is one -) but,as you say - after we've had a disasterous pregnancy we look for the small things that we can control.

Enjoy the horse-riding (maybe do a test before just incase).

Well that's Hippy signing out - troops in place - come on decent egg!!

Just logged on for a quick scan through the latest updates to see how you're all doing. Laughed my head off at the whole slanket discussion (after I had looked it up). What an absolute gem!!

Pollyanna thanks for the kind comment. I am sure I am getting there.

doubleshotlatte thanks for your kind thoughts but I really do think it is so highly unlikely to happen naturally. I do need to decide at some point if we will go for adoption or fertility treatment. It is no just my age, I had fertility problems before so I just know it is very unlikely.

Hippy no idea about all these extra vitamins, I just know about folic acid. I did try taking extra vits etc but it was expensive and as we have had a lot of other expensive treatment I did not go for it long-term.

Sudacreme is good for my dry hands and I love it, it does what it says on the tin but don;t confuse it with Ronseale!

love to all

Hippy - The big bang theory - very funny, but makes for a slightly weird mental picture!

Lunatic - great news.Please remind me of your stats - age, kids, how long ttc?

Polly, I didn't go to the funeral and glad I didn't as I'd had a killer of a night before, and would have had all that driving whilst feeling very tired.As it was, I had an afternoon nap and then acupuncture. A very pleasant afternoon, but still thought about my aunt and cousins who would be feeling very sad.Although my mum says it is very much a relief for them as she'd been ill for 7 years, and at the end she was terribly agitated and uncomfortable, and it was very difficult for my aunt to nurse her at home(my aunt is 72).It would have been very hard as Erica was very heavy (for my aunt to lift) and also was intellectually disabled, so didn't really understand what was going on. So a release for the family too I think...

double thanks for the link to the anticancer stuff,I shall have a look soon.I recently read a very good book about anti-cancer lifestyle and have tried to incorporate some of it.Unfortunately I'm still not as svelte as I'd like to be, and should probably do more exercise.

Thanks everyone for the advice on Charlie's nappy rash. Poor wee boy can hardly sit down and putting cream on it is excruciating for him. He has been going without a nappy most of the time and when he sleeps he wears a cloth nappy. It isn't freezing cold, so even when he's outside he wears his baby legs(so cute) and a long shirt and seems okay. I have used sudocream, but didn't on that particular day. I'm now using bepanthen which seems to be easier to apply and is helping. He slept really well last night, thank goodness, didn't wake me til about 5.30.

Well, I'm gearing up for swi days...where did I put my slanket?

Double - that's the book I had read! I think it is a great book - love it.

Hi all,
Just lost enooormous post - grrr!
It was very witty and I wrote something to everyone - double grr!
Oh well!

Gum we used babylegs on our ds when he was potty-training. Do you think Charlie would go on the potty/loo for poos? Our DS started doing poos on the potty when he was very little (14 months)purely because of his nappy rash. He took to it very quickly, not so much the pees, they took another year to sort completely, but I think he may have registered that poos in a potty were much less painful.
Oh and metanium was the best for really bad nappy rash.

Waves to everyone!!!

Just signing in so that I don'y lose my place. Not an avid Mumsnetter and as Im surreptitiously writing this at work in an open plan office so apologies now if this is rather short self indulgent post. I did post some time ago now under the nic name alfiemac but for some reason MN not accepting that nic name so have changed to this name.
I have been periodically trying to keep up with all your news AND trying to get to grips/understand all the abbreviations and acronyms but feel as if Im failing miserably on both counts!!
Anyway, just wanted to say I can relate totally to your feelings Italian as feel I am very much in the same position as you. My DH and I are very very fortunate and blessed to have twin boys who have just turned 4 years old and they were conceived via fertility treatment. Practically from the day they were born I have longed to have another child (I am one of four so always felt I would like a large family), but, so far, our attempts have failed and Im finding it very hard to come to terms with the reality that we will probably only ever be a family of four (apologies now to all those people who just long to have a child let alone number 3). Last September my husband and I went to an initial meeting to find out more about adoption etc but have not taken further steps as secretly hoped for a ?miracle? conception and also my DH not 100% sure about adoption and all that it entails etc. Was with friends at the weekend and they were referees' for a single female friend of theirs whom I also know who is in her 40?s and has just adopted a ?delightful? 6 year old girl so that has got me thinking again about maybe taking things further. Apparently the whole adoption process for her took 2 years. I understand there needs to be atleast a 2 year age gap between the youngest child already in your family whether your birth child or adopted and any prospective adopted child and that you are unable to adopt a child older than those already in your family.
Anyway must dash but will endeavour to keep in touch more often.

Sorry quick post as mad busy week and lots to do this avo to catch up.

Lunatic - top news, acu I use is Elaine Cook click here, she is lovely and I am pleased with things so far.

Squeeze for Hippy and for Gum's Charlie. And very excited for Rowing (apart from the RyanAir bit!).

Welcome back Moley

Off to google Slanket - feel I'm missing out.....

Thanks for the squeeze jolly. Much appreciated even in this heat .

Afternoon everyone, am popping on very briefly to say hello. Sorry I've been AWOL for quite a while, but life's a bit jumbled for us at the moment, sort of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - The Good is that I am 20 weeks tomorrow, and we hope to find out the sex on Thursday. The Bad is that I am being made redundant, and they're pretending that my pregnancy has NOTHING to do with it - the Evil Boss has got me at last! And the Ugly is that my MIL has a brain tumour, and has now decided NOT to have the operation. Talk about having lots on!

Sorry this is all me, me, me - hope you're all doing well. x