30s TTC Inc: Rolling out BESH practice across our flagship monthly diffment projects - Blue Sky thinking for a paradigm shift vis-a-vis droids and wooden spoons.

[Muser]

We're getting serious this time BESHies. Welcome to the Palace, where the emphasis is on sophistication. Cast your eyes over the plush carpet, admire the oh-so-carefully worn leather armchairs with sidetables and little green lamps. We have the Bonds of the ages as barstaff, waiting to serve martinis and the finest champagne.

To your left you'll see the Pit, which hopefully we won't be needing much. To your right the Cave of Gloom, and straight ahead we have our special space for the 2WOOFL. You'll find beanbags and gym balls there, the walls have been specially painted to allow you to write your symptoms up and wipe them off if they disappear. It's all the rage for Blue Sky thinking these days. And there are donuts and coffee to keep you going as you try to shift that paradigm.

Of COURSE there's no evidence. I have become a credulous, insane old bag. See above re: Goldacre. I was probably one step away from buying into homeopathy, and I know that's just magic water.

Now, Lyra Babies don't just get made by teh secks, you know. You have to dedicate time, money and stomach space to things with no proven efficacy.

Funny you should mention all this, hags. Because I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that to get diffed we may just have to have loads of sex. Loads of it.

I tried to find evidence for some of the stuff when Polly first suggested them, and generally failed, not helped by no longer having access to uni databases to read scientific papers (if there are any which in most cases I doubt). At least I can imagine there are ways that vitamins and so on might help, acupuncture I struggle with more. If I ever head down the homeopathy route would someone please send me back to work in a science lab again to find my brain.

Riiiiggghhht Humpy, I see, I will get all of that stuff then.

(no I bastard won't! the Humpster is crackers!)

(but she haz won a baybeee...)

I'm with you Occiewoccie - shall we start an Evidence Based Diffment Squad?

Watch out, the EBDS is about. Neee naaaww neee naaaaww

Completely off-topic but has anyone been following this?

Am I alone in thinking it's a troll? I want to yell TROLL but my God, imagine if it's not

Fishslaps all round. OxtailSoup I am VERY sorry about the droidage.

I am in awe of Camel's rigorous (and highly successful!) regime. The fact that I barely manage a week without drinking, and entire pots of purest Columbian caffeine, and remember to take one folic acid pill about once a month, makes me think I am Not Fit to TTC. . .

...and le smoking ...

Me = Bad Girl.

Was that strange collection of letters a siren, Lyra?

I was really good about following a strict Drom-esque regime. For about seven days back in the dark, cold days of February, before I fell into bad ways. I may have to re-instigate it. I don't drink much. No I really don't . OK, this week was an exception.

I have been posting all day in AIBU as I sit chewing my nails in the rain. AIBU?

Yes! Even boozed up to the nines in the flat drinking with ead I still took 300 pills. It was automatic by that stage.

Am not sure re: troll - and would in NO WAY yell it on the thread. People do seem to know her. But wifelet is odd diction.

I was SO impressed. I can barely get my knickers off when I'm that drunk (and don't think I didn't try ).

It's the accusations of police corruption that made me . We'll see.

Holy fuck, have just read your link Bangers. It gets worse with every post. I see what you mean, but can imagine yelling troll and it isn't? How do women get into these situations? It's beyond unbelievable.

I know Aries, I that also made me a little cautious. It was like reading torture porn. But IMAGINE if it's real...

I've reported it on the basis that either a)it's trolling that will damage women on about sixteen different levels (including encouraging them not to go the police), or that b) it's such a serious and violent situation that it shouldn't be aired publicly becuase her life is clearly in danger!

MN have suspended her and we're waiting to find out why...

Yes, Aries, that was indeed the EBDS siren. Scorps is going to kill me for seizing her stash.

I have been following that thread as though it was Corrie. First thought was troll, of course, but am giving her the benefit of the doubt as people seem to know her. Assuming it's true, then what an eye opener into other people's lives and, more positively, the kindness of strangers.

I haven't been able to read all the way through it, but that was quite humbling and uplifting. The fact that strangers were so prepared to take her into their homes.

aries don't tease me with your BUMSEX innuendos it's not good for a woman in my condition

and scorpalina fanks for lucks... Am currently struggling with the fact that I was due first of the july girls and somehow already find myself last?! What's that about....

Am pleased to see you posting lovely gin and I hope the menkulism is ok.

right - as you were BESHlets

The girl that I line manage at work has just emailed to tell me she is pregnant. I'm ashamed to say I felt more than . She sits opposite me so I will have to see/hear every minute of her pregnancy. And I don't want to.

Having a totally shameful, selfish weep now.

lyra is not selfish -is understandable - I had girl at work get diffed and announce her pregnancy on the date I would have announced mine if I hadn't had babyfail - and I def sat at my desk sobbing quite a few times throughout her diffment... muchos sympathies and slaps from me

Lyra, don't be ashamed, I think we've all been there and the fact that you'll see it all close at hand just makes it harder.

Iggy everyone else obviously have impatient babies, yours is clearly far more chilled!

(Should that have be has? - neither sounds right, I need Scorps to adjudicate!)

Feeling very negative. Convinced will never get updiffed. Getting older. Weeping lots.

Should have been has Occs .

Lyra, I would be exactly the same. Exactly. I'm so glad I've left teaching as all the girls I used to work with have had, or are expecting babies. Now I work with a bunch of hairy-arsed, foul-mouthed blokes and it's much easier (and that's just MrA)

Why would I suddenly have such a short cycle? Does anyone have any suggestions? Can it be stress?

Oh Lyra. You will, you WILL. I'm sorry about the girl in your office though, that's shit. I'm currently trying to keep one of my closeest friendships going without actually ever seeing the girl for much the same reasons! Wondering how long I can get away with a carefully timed campaign of texts, emails and quick chats at times when I know she won't be able to go into loads of detail.

Ocky so sorry, truly.

Aries it could be stress. Do you think this is definitely droid now then? Oh, and I meant "depply", obviously. As in humour a la Johnny Depp..... and it WAS all very inappropriate, I don't think the woman at the funeral directors was v impressed, esp as minipot kept pointing at her and saying "Great Nanny" - um, no, she's laying dead next door darling.....

to all. Twirls and gin fizzes.

Going to read that other fred now...

DOn't beat yourself up about it, Lyra. I felt totally jealous of the colleague who is exactly two weeks older than me annoucing she was diffed with #2.

I don't think they see toddlers often in funeral parlours and don't really know what they are. I knew you only made a typo, you daft mare - I was trying to be funny and ended up being inappropriate. (truly le mot du jour). Big love. Oh and a dead arm too of course.

Lyra love, you will win your baby. And you must be very weepy at the moment even without the stress of TTC. You're doing very well just by functioning at the moment, I think.

Remember I mentioned I had found out my work's health insurance covered my infertility investigations. I had left a message for my GP to call me to discuss; today I got a call from the local private hospital with my scan date, and I hadn;t even known he had done the referral! And my scan is on Tuesday. And I was so surprised I haven't taken much of the details in other than the time and vague directions (not even sure of the name of the department I am heading to!)

So I guess, if it is bad news this weekend, at least I know things are moving. I'm a lefty Guardian-reading liberal most of the time, but bloody hell, private medicine moves fast! Wish the NHS could be the same.

Oh and I missed the depply joke. I am a thicko.