Emmsys Weebles; we all have our wobbles but we never fall down...

[VJay]

...thanks to all the support we get in the greenhouse

Monkey you looked absolutely stunning! I bet dh thought so too once you were all done up.

monkey you look lovely

Hello ladies..I am now trying out this one handed typing you all speak of!! Gorgeous little Jude is feeding- he has got the hang of it so quickly. Obviously a wise old soul having stayed inside so long!
We got home at around lunchtime Sunday...v overwhelmed but just besotted with my boy. He is so lush- big eyes, black hair and just the cutest little face. Thanks so much for all congrats He was so worth the wait! He does have a middle name btw but it's my Dad's name & v unusual so didn't want it on list incase RL friends can find me paranoid! I'll send round an email with it & pics when I can.

Ok, an attempted birth story..
Woke Friday, day of induction with pain at 1am. Looked at phone whenever it happened, was every 10 mins then became every 8 mins. I was getting excited and posted on here...at 5am had a bloody show & thought it must be real thing as hadn't had anything like that before so woke dh. Called MAU about 6am who said to come in but no hurry. Got there 7.45, pains slowed down a bit. Was examined & told no, cervix still v high and tight..was gutted. Sent to ward then for planned induction that started with propess at about 11am...like a tiny tampon that stays in for 24 hours. This is what they use even before the gel cos my cervix was so unfavourable so I was feeling very down about the whole process!
(I started this post yesterday & had to give up?finishing this next part while Jude sleeps!)

Then we just had to wait?dh and I went for a long walk around the hospital, had lunch etc. At about 3pm I went to the loo and managed to pull out the propess oops?by 4pm they still hadn?t come to put another one in & I was thinking we were gonna be there for hours just waiting but then pains started again. They were getting worse with bad back ache; I was rocking on a birth ball and just praying this was the real thing. Midwife finally agreed to examine me at about 8pm with pains every 4mins (I think I was scaring the other pregnant girls on the ward with my panting by then!) When she said I was 4cms with bulging waters & could go to delivery I burst into tears; was so relieved it was real contractions!

Anyway (sorry this is long; quite cathartic to write out!) got to delivery & my waters broke after a few mins. They made me go on constant monitor which I desperately didn?t want- it was horrible having to stay on the bed. Jude was back to back and I cannot describe the AGONY of the back pain with each contraction ? I thought I was going to burst in two. I have a huge friction burn from where Dh vigorously rubbed my back the whole way through He was such a star.
After a while I asked for gas & air ? what great stuff. Didn?t really do much for the back pain but so good having something to focus on and in between contractions I was totally blissed out on it. A few hours later midwife told me I was moving too much during contractions & she couldn?t get good fetal heart rate so was going to have to put a scalp clip in. I said absolutely not & told her my baby was just fine - she examined me & I was 10cms by then so she said I could start pushing, hooray. She got all the baby delivery stuff out & said ?let me see the clock so I know what time he delivers? to dh so I was all excited that he?d be here within a few mins. An hour of pushing later still no baby and meconium stained waters mw got paediatrician in who said because he was face up & not really budging they would have to try forceps in theatre, possibly c-section, so suddenly I was signing a consent form and dh was looking terrified asking loads of questions.

To be honest, I loved the theatre bit- the team were amazing, explaining everything, anaesthetist was absolutely lovely lady and best of all I was pain free after the spinal dh has since admitted he hated it cos it happened so quickly & seeing me getting all the drips etc put in. They put my legs up on the elevated thingies and asked if I could lift one (thinking I wouldn?t be able to) I did and they all had to grab me cos I almost fell off the table they were all laughing at me it was such a surreal moment! Anyway, a couple of pushes (that I couldn?t feel, so odd!) and Jude was on my chest, dh & I both crying our eyes out. I was so so glad to have avoided c-section.

Over the next couple of days practically every midwife we saw kept telling me how amazing it was I didn?t have an epidural with a back-to-back labour so I felt quite proud I wasn?t trying to be a hero; I just didn?t know if the pain I was in was the worst it was going to get so kept holding off on asking for pain relief. I had an episiotomy so stitches quite sore now; I can?t wait to feel a little more normal & not take half an hour every time I need to go to the loo
We then went onto the ward for the next day and a half. Thought I'd be devastated not to have dh there at night (part of the reason I wanted to be on posh MLU with double beds) but actually it was fine & Jude & I coped well. The staff were all amazing too.

So in the end the induction wasn?t as bad as I feared but I?m so scared any future babies will be back to back too now, that labour is not something I want to repeat, ever!
My milk has come in today and I honestly look like a porn star- dh can?t stop staring at my chest

Anyway, sorry that was massively epic, well done if you read it all! Sorry not to post personals but I have caught up on the thread.
I am now off to do some more staring at my gorgeous boy

ahh congrats agan cupcake im sorry your birth wasnt the greatest but look what you got at the end . cant wait to see pics xxxxxxx

cupcake alls well that ends well and you sound totally in love with your little one, im so pleased he is finally here and you are a mummy

mrskate how sad, i have no idea how you can get through something as horrendous as that, there are no words

monkey aww you look beautiful i bet your dh soon changed his mind about the dress hey your little boy is lovely too, has a very thoughtful look about him

sorry again for lack of posting, but i am lurking to make sure you are all ok xxx

cupcake I welled up reading your birth story, well done to you I can't wait to see some pictures of Jude

Thanks for sharing yor story cupcake and well done for reporting back so quickly . You did marvellously!!! I've heard back to back labours are beyond painful.. It makes such a difference when the staff are fantastic too (I was also in love with all my theatre staff - there's a great camadarerie in those suites ).

Hope you heal quickly and big congrats to little Jude for picking up feeding so well.

Enjoy your babymoon xx

monkey - what a a beautiful photo . Your boys are just lovely and the dress suited you down to a tee.

Hey moon x

wow cupcake a birth story when your boy is just a few days old! Well done. Don't worry about future babies being back to back - my first was and second wasn't ( he was a 3 hour sprint and a very different experience)I too have my hat off to you managing a back to back, being monitored with no epidural - you have some pain threshold.

monkey top dress - and the weather was fab too wasn't it?

mrskate - again, too awful to describe. Probably the best your sister can do is to be there for her friend and saying little and letting her talk is probably the best.

barbie BabyJ scoffs two 4 oz bottles in an evening v quickly. But then she does have to cope with my limited milk supply during the day

Moon lovely to see you - hope you are OK

Hi to everyone else

Hi. Lovely to see you on here Cupcake. you sound insanely happy It sounds like you had quite a hard time and did brilliantly. LOL at you already thinking about the next one. (Use a squeezy water bottle for those stitches when you pee and keep your pads in the freezer or put witch hazel on them. It really helps as does lavendar and tea tree oil in your bath.Oh and start on the pelvic floor exercises NOW even if you can't feel enough to be sure you are doing them)

MrsKate that's awful news I think the best things your sister can do is offer practical help - meals etc -and just be there in the months ahead. My friend that lost her daughter says it really helps when people acknowledge she existed.

Vjay Hope you get the car situation sorted quickly and manage to meet up with Blue Blue glad I had a great time. In case i forget later, have a fab holiday. Lucky you that your boobs have retained some perkiness. When I stopped feeding DD1 each of mine looked like a tangerine in the end of a sock!!

MLS really hope these tablets work for you and you can enjoy the rest of your pregnancy in perfet health.

Justshaggy Yip - there's 4 of us. we'll soon be taking over the thread. Sounds to me that you are doing everything possible. Try to relax too if you can (I know, it's hard when you want to be pregnant so desperately). Everytime I've fallen pregnant I've been on holiday from work and quite relaxed. A few others on here have had a BFP after a holiday too.

QA Sorry AF got you Hope this is your month and you feel better soon.

Moon Hi. Hope you're holding up ok.

Sabs Hope Saara is back to normal now.

I'm once again losing the battle of the bottle with H. It's really depressing me as I wanted to feed her myself at least some of the time until she was a year old but if she won't willingly take the bottle i know that when the time comes to go cold turkey and force her I wont be able to bf her anymore I only want her really to take one occasionally but we have been trying regularly for 7 weeks now and have tried 5 different types. Any ideas anyone?

Hi girls, im lurking for a bit...Little D seems to have forgotten all of the good work from the last 2 weeks and is back to waking every 2 hours and feeding for england! think she is having another growth spurt.

Im so tired but once i catch up on my sleep i will be back!

cupcake thanks for the email, beautiful baby!

neeko keep an eye on this thread, might get some answers re bottle feeding www.mumsnet.com/Talk/parenting/979523-Please-Share-your-Top-Tips-to-get-a-Baby-to?addwatch=1

barbie growth spurts are a killer - you get lulled into a false sense of security that they are sleeping well and then it all seems to go backwards. It will get better again soon I promise. Hope you have a nice nap

cupcake Thanks for the email and the lovely pics Jude is lucious. He almost doesn't look like a newborn - he's lost that wrinkled look. Well done for writing your birth story so quickly - you sound like a v brave woman. I reckon if you've been through that without an epidural until right at the end, then any future labour will be a piece of cake [no pun intended ]

Neeko I assume that MrNeeko has tried her with the bottle? I'm not sure what else you can do other than keep trying. We had the opposite problem - DS2 was tube/bottle fed initially as he was in SCBU and it was a nightmare to get him BF'ing. He screamed blue murder every time and refused to feed. He got it eventually but I was about to give up. They can be very stubborn

sabs I'm sorry you missed the wedding, but totally understand why. Its really difficult to tell whether they are seriously ill or not when they are babies and they do have this annoying habit of recovering in a matter of hours (which is good, but not when you've put off going to wedding because of it). I always wanted 2 children, but then when we had twins first time round, I wanted another. Whether I would have done if I had had 2 separately I don't know. I am one of three but also have lots of step-siblings. DH is one of two and he doesn't get on with his sister so he's more reluctant to have any more. I think 3 will be enough (unless we have twins again...)

Justshaggy book a holiday - that is guaranteed to get you your bfp, particularly if its somewhere you need malaria tablets or injections or requires a long flight and you have ms (I speak from experience ) I still went although my GP was a bit [hmm} when I told him we were going to Indonesia. And I didn't know it was twins then!

Monkey you look gorgeous. I'm glad you had a good time. I am of anyone who can make a maxidress look good. I just look fat in them

MrsKate I'm so sorry about your friend. It must be devastating. I did laugh about Jack weeing on you at the HV clinic. They can really you.

MLS hope the thrush clears up soon. It is normal to have this much? The 4d scan pics are fab

QA boo hiss for AF. Hope you are feeling better otherwise though.

Vjay Yay for selling the car so quickly, hope you get DH's company car soon though.

blue very belated Happy Birthday to Isaac! Glad your (.)(.) are back to normal. Two boys in linen shorts and sandals are lovely They look so cute

pfj hope the worst of AF is over and DH is being more sympathetic. I wondered whether he was being a idiot because he had got his hopes up too?

curly what is pupd?? Hope curlygirl is settling a bit better for her naps now. Its really hard when they get used to be rocked to sleep.

gracie how was the christening? What did you do about the dress in the end

Waves to annie jools mermaid and whoever else I've forgotten.

I'm slowly becoming friends with you all on FB - I'm still trying to work out who everyone is though! Getting confused between MN names and RL names . I'll get there. Anyway, thanks to MLS and Vjay - I've who suggested some friends, I've sent a few more requests this morning so if you get a request from a Rachel, its me

AF arrived here yesterday, not that I'm really that surprised and at least it had the decency to start before I'd wasted a HPT. Operation seduction will be starting at the weekend . Need to get some more reliable OPKs though - I think there is a shop on ebay but not sure what it's called. Anyone know?

We went to Cornwall to sell DH's car as he is getting a newer one. The secondhand market is better down there. It was a very long way to go though and DS1 caused havoc every evening as he can now climb out of a travel cot and did so constantly. Then he slept in the car on the way back home and played havoc in his bedroom for most of Sunday night because he wasn't tired

Waiting today to hear whether our application for him to be assessed for a statement of special educational needs has been successful. Keep your fingers crossed.

Morning

Cupcake Your DS is just gorgeous! I'm broody now

Louey Yes DH has tried [sigh] She's such a stubborn girl. Sorry AF got you. Have my fingers crossed for your application.

Barbie Just when you think you're in the swing of things, it all goes tits up! That's kids for you. Hope you managed a nap.

Monkey meant to say that I agree you look gorgeous. I'd forgotten how cute your DS is too

DD1 is going to visit her new nursery that she starts in August today. She's excited and I'm just praying she likes it as much as the current one. MIL is looking after DD2. Maybe she'll take a bottle from her?!?

Have a good day everyone.

Neeko its worth a try. Hope DD1 likes the nursery.

I've just had an email from Boden for 25% off today. Damn. Guess who's spending their lunch hour buying clothes they don't need nor can afford Shhhh, don't tell DH, its AF retail therapy

Happy shopping!

Hi All,

Sorry not to have been around - I can't really get on MN during the day anymore at work cos have moved office. So may have to rejoin you all once am on Maternity leave (last day in office is 18th!)

Anyway - huge congrats to lovely cupcake am well impressed at already having the birth story on here! Is nice cos Cupcake and I were on the same AN thread before our MCs and is nice to have gone that whole journey together... (might cry now...)

Huge waves to the rest of you. xx

Hiya

neeko I'm sorry but I did laugh at your description of your (.)(.)'s, mine are quite similar , very of blues

louey happy shopping, I've just had some lovely retail therapy in M&S, just what I needed

cupcake lovely pictures, Jude is gorgeous, and I love his middle name

iggy could you update shaggy with details about vajazzling as I'm not really sure what it is

mermaid how are you, did you have a nice holiday?

barbie growth spurts are rubbish, but just think in a day or two she'll be sleeping it off.

mrskate was thinking about your sisters friend today, it is so , I think the girls on here have said the right thing, just be there for her, and always available to listen.

It's miserable weather up here today, but I've had a nice day out with DH shopping, Ajay is now asleep, he won't sleep when we're out and about as he is far too nosy.

I have changed my email address on the list, just to let you know.

Gotta go, the wee man is awake

Yay - LEA have agree to assess Isaac. Am so pleased, its going to be a battle but at least we have got over the first hurdle.

Iggy not long to go at work now and then you will be a lady who can MN every day Hope you are feeling ok and trying to take it easy when you can.

Vjay glad you had a nice day shopping too. Weather is awful here as well. Fortunately for my credit card bill, they didn't have everything I wanted to buy . Still managed to get a few smart things for work though. Will feign innocence when the parcels start arriving and DH asks how much I've spent....

Well curlygirl is screaming in the bedroom I tried for 40 mins to settle her and in the end had to hand her over. And now I'm in our bedroom in floods of tears. The sleep training was working really well but this is the second bad session I've had today. I hate upsetting her

sorry this is such a me post. I just needed to talk to someone. I just feel like such a rubbish mum, I can't handle upsetting her

I'll be back when I stop sniffling

Huge hug Curly It's not always posible to do the right thing as a mum and still please them. She won't remember this

Wow Cupcake a birth story already! Lovely to read about what happened, bet you can't believe he's finally here! How's the feeding going? Can't wait to see pics of gorgeous Jude!

Curly You are not a rubbish mum, you are a fantastic mum, but it's not always easy. Not surprised you're crying - you must be shattered, plus I think it does something physical to us to hear our little ones so upset Very hard not to get emotional. It's great that the sleep training has been going well - it's those hiccups along the way that'll be difficult, but you WILL get there! Big big hugs x

Bloody Boden hey Louey. Am extremely cross as they've just made me part with hard earned cash for stuff I really don't need but wasn't strong enough to resist. Plus, I just got home to an email saying I could have 20% off pre-orders for the autumn stuff, so what did I do??? Think I might have to leave home when everything arrives! Mine is AF-not-showing retail therapy. I wonder if that'll wash with dh
What did you get btw? It's such lovely stuff
Re OPK's - I think MLS gets hers from somewhere called Babymad? Good luck finding some.

Thanks for saying such lovely things about my dress everyone It felt great to be dressed up and not in 'comfy' clothes for once! Thanks also for being so lovely about my ds He is such a sweetie bless him. He made me a necklace out of pasta and beads at school today and was so proud to put it on me when I collected him. My heart just melted at his happy face

Neeko How did it go with DD1's nursery? Hope she liked it?

Must go and wake ds - he fell asleep in the car and is now conked out on the sofa... Am off to gynaecologist tomorrow morning re thrush etc and going to ask him where my missing AF is. I really thought it would've come back by now, but almost 9 weeks on and nothing's happened...

Hi to all, and lots of love xxx

I will never moan about 2 hourly feeding again...last night it was every 45 mins! hoping this is the last day of the feedathon, im shattered!
I just want to write to curly quickly, i will be back later to speak to you all

curly your post always strike a cord with me, mostly because you are only a few weeks ahead and therefore we are going through the same things nearly at the same time. You are doing excellent with the sleep training but just remember is wont change over night, it can take 7-14 days to break the bad habits of babies and for them to settle into a new routine, Im 2 weeks down the line and we still have tears at bed time!
Your baby wont remember crying to sleep or the desperate fights we seem to have with one another. To prove it i bet your lo still smiles and coo's at you after a sleep? you see, she has already totally forgotten the battle which took place 45 minutes before!
Whats the earliest memory yoou have of your mum? bet its not an unhappy one! I said to my own mum last week that im a crap mummy making baby D cry at bed time/ bottle time....my mum's response was that she too must be a crap mum cos its what she had to do with me, she even gave me to her sister for 48 hours as she was having a hard time with getting me to sleep .
for the record i dont remember this nor is she a rubbish mum!

Hope you remember this next time you feel rubbish.
Big hugs to you xxx

Back soon after i get my own tiny terror to sleep!

Poor Curly, you are not a rubbish mum at all. Barbie's right, she won't remember this phase at all. You are just programmed to feel wretched when curlygirl cries. I really hope it gets better soon x

Barbie 45 min feeding , you must be on your knees. I think we need to have serious words with D about that. Hope you manage to get some sleep today

Monkey LOL thank god I didn't get the autumn pre-order email as well, otherwise it would have been carnage

I bought a couple of dresses for work this in red (already got the blue and green one) and this in black/beige. I work in a law firm so I need to be smart but I'm bored of suits and these make me feel quite grown up and less like the slob I am the rest of the time. I've mass ordered OPKs off babymad, thank you for that. Hopefully they will arrive in time for the pee-fest . Good luck at gynae today, hope you get some answers. I wouldn't be surprised if they send you for another scan just to check there isn't something remaining.

im back!

Cant sleep, no point when its only going to be 45 mins anyway To be honest i feel ok, yesterday was a killer but today aint so bad.

Barbie moment for this week happened this morning while in the mall, baby d was crying so carried her for a while and once i put her back in the pram i noticed that everyone was staring...i was feeling pleased with myself as i had made an effort not to look like a slummy mummy and thought perhaps i was looking good, only to walk the length of the mall before realizing that little D had in fact pulled apart my top exposing my boobies
Me and boobies just dont mix

loueybug at your dresses, they are beautiful...which i could wear something like that, i still have a few kg to go Babymad normally send things out pretty quick so you should be ok for peefest as you called it Also glad you are getting the assessment done.

curly glad you are feeling better...

monkey you looked gorgeous! Lovely pic of you and the boys. Hope you get some answers today...hope they do a scan to cover all areas and possibilities with missing af. Although remember mine didnt come back at all and i got pregnant! Oh and total heart melt at ds and the necklace.

iggy glad you are still around, not too long until mat leave and you can join me here wasting the days away

neeko some good tips on that thread isnt there? i hope you crack it soon. Im still doing the boob trick and last night got 3oz down her, would of been more but had no more to express she has sucked the life out of me!

Waves to everyone else, i have only 45 mins while lo sleeps so im off to do some chores with the remaining time xxxx

by the way i did have a bra on...but have so much boobage at the moment most of them were on show!