30s TTC - We Started TTC When the LAST Coalition Government Was In Power

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BESH is BACK for Spring. Come in, admire the cocktail bar stylings I have created for you. It's all lowlights and smooth sounds, and there's a rehearsal room in back for the GLEE practice.

The barman are beautiful, the Pit has been well stocked with beanbags and gin. So roll up all you 30-something BESHies who stopped counting cycles sometime in the last century, and grab a martini.

My periods were never heavy (despite what the bastard hospital STILL thinks!) and have got lighter with age. This is normal, I've been told. It could just be that. Or it could just be a couple of lighter than usual droids, but obvy, TTC makes us all over-analyse things (me worst of all!).

Perhaps you could have a chat with your Doc just to ask if it's anything to worry about in light of ttc and your past ishoos?

Lemme ask you all - was it wrong that the last 2 days, when my abdomen was still massively bloated with the carbon dioxide from the Lap, I have been looking in the mirror obsessively and gingerly stroking the big swollen hurty tum because it has REALLY looked like a 4-5 month pregnant belly? And was it also wrong to make TYF touch it and say 'Hello Baby!' to it, just to pathetically make myself dream? Oh, the shame!

It was wonderful, tho' I just look like I have a pot belly now. Even more than usual, I mean

Oh Gawd, if I don't get a win this summer after all my Good Medical News, I'm going to be insane with disappointment and worry, aren't I?

Am so mememe at the mo. So sorry.

Polly, fancy snogging an invalid? Thanks for your text on Monday, btw - only saw it this morning!

Muse, my diffed BESH pal what I told y'all about some time back has been lurking like a right twat (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, LURKING LURKER!), and says to let you know that her droid was a scant 2 days and yet diffment ensued. Pliz to accept this reassurance from a third party!

Score that made me smile sadly. You menkulist. Erm, not that I've done it when my belly pre-droid looks like triplets . Hope your stomach's less hurtsome, poor love.

Scorps I've done that too. And stuff cushions up top, just to see what it would look like. Couldn't get TG to play along though, the bastard.

Oh, also Scropes, you remember we had a poster recently who offered advice about another condition that she thought you might have? Did she mention that progesterone pessaries might help? Do you want some? I got 2 packs gathering dust in a drawer, free to a good home.

Thanks, Headroom, thou art the font of wisdom (we're all doomed, etc. ).

I can now manoeuvre myself out of a chair without screaming and my gait has gone from 'Bambi with prosthetic limbs' to merely 'constipated drunkard'. Or as we would say oop here, I'm walking like I've shit mesen. My arms are still very weak and I feel vaguely dazed, but am much better today overall. The surgical dressings are hard with dried blood - bit confused that the nurse told me to leave them on for at least a week - can that be healthy? I might ring them to check, like the true neurotic I am

Am v touched by how much love and concern y'all have showed me (keep worrying it's mainly cos everyone knows and accepts I am a massive wimpy worrier and fusspot and need the reassurance). When I am healed there's gonna be a love orgy!

PollyPocket, I did ask about that condition on Monday (can't remember name without checking my notebook) before the op and the surgeon said after that my womb was in tip tip condition and he would've been able to see it if it was present. Having Googled it, it didn't sound like my prob either. BUT! I'd never say no to a freebie, or indeed a reason to shove things up me chuff Can I be right cheeky sod and ask you to hang onto them in case I decide to try em or someone tells me I needs em? Cheeky bloody soft, aren't I?

Course you can me dear, they will just need a bit of dusting off before use. Really must get arse into shower, am being v lazy today.

AliceA very very delighted for your - a long time coming if I recall from my brief fling with you Beshes. Excellent news! Here have some brie and this magnum of Champers to celebrate, Cokie.

'Ello all!!!!

Sorry for my absence - I've been inundated with work. Can you believe the bloody cheek of it?

scorps how are you feeling today? You're very brave & I'm most impressed.

alice CONGRATUMALATIONS!!!! This is really the best news EVA! I felt really bleurgh last night after a crap day in work & had those horrible nervous butterflies in stomach. Then read your news & the butterflies became excited ones!! I also had a bit of dust in my eye at the same time.

So details * pliz. What day were you on? When did you suspect? What did the boyf say? Have you been to GP yet? When you due? Did you manage to sleep after test? Oh, & how are you feeling?

• not those details. Well, unless you really want to!!

And finally, what the hell did those BESH's put in your drink? Pliz to send a bottle to sunny Cardiff. Thanking you kindly.

polly I'm on CD27. If I get to CD37 I'll POAS then.

Boomerang thwacks to the rest of youse x

Yeah, like we'd ALLOW you to keep us lot waiting until CD37!

Am feeling mainly bored shitless, thank you very much. How come when I'm working I dream of being able to lie around at home doing fuck all and now that's all I can do it's crap?

Sanity-check, pliz...

Seeing as how one of our members has just had miraculous news, is it worth me getting a CB monitor and going back down the temping/POAS/jumping on TNB at the correct time route for a couple of months? Or will I just become mad and depressed?

Droid has just started, which is never a good time for sensible decision-making, so I'm turning this over to the BESHmassive. Collective wisdoms or comedy violence, thanking you.

Drom, that is not mad and depressed. That is good optimistic forward planning. But at the same time, I am not sure that delaying treatment (or the preparation for treatment) is going to be good for your state of mind in the long run (if that's what you're talking about). I wholly see your reasoning but wouldn't want you to put yourself through unnecessary menkul. Mind you. It is so encouraging isn't it? I would be having just precisely those same thoughts. Oh dear me, this fence is mighty comfy

Sorry (very) for enthusiastic use of parenthases.

drom not sure my input wanted - but I would avoid the CBFM cos it made me menkul.. well, more menkul... Not sure if scorps has got it to work for her yet? It was clinging onto a mythical cycle I had when i last spoke about it...

Lovely Camel I have a persona fertility monitor that you are most welcome to. It was used for about 4 cycles and is now gathering dust. Once I got the hang of temping and TCOYF then I ditched it as didn't need telling when I was ov'ing.

On the menkulness front.... well, it is all personal choice, but I have to say I found temping/sticking hand up foof to be non-menkul-making as I felt back in control and it felt really good to understand my body and its rhythms. But that is just me, others find it utterly destroying as it is the first thing you think of in the morning/every time you visit the loo etc.

Lorry there is no way you will get any peace until you POAS, so you might as well accept now. I give you til Day30!

Camelina, I had kinda presumed you would still be sorta-trying anyway. I can't see how enjoying Teh Secks at the right time of the month could possibly be a bad thing so long as you stay realistic about it. You have been told the chances of a natural conception are low, but nothing is impossible. I think you need to be very aware getting the balance right between being positive about going for a bit of no-stress TTC-lite (as it were) and getting all obsessed and then working yourself up into a self-hating depression (which would be my default).

I think you should defo still enjoy rudeness with Captain Humphrey (as I like to think of your DH ) just for the closeness and loveliness. And who knows if it won't work? The statistics show that given enough bloody time, nearly all women, even those told they need AC, would get pg ^eventually - if they weren't in a bloody loony bin after years and years of disappointment, that is.

So I would go for some unpressurised TTC, if that's possible and try to do the whole Buddhist thang of mindful detachment from outcome. That's what I would do, dunno what others think. Now c'mere so I can slap you round a little bit

I JUST WANT YOU TO WIN YOUR BAYBEE SO FACKIN MUCH!

PS Don't think you should put off your AC appointments nor nuffink, btw, if that was one consideration. Cos if you don't win then you'll go menkul cursing yourself for delaying.

PPS STILL haven't got the CBFM working yet, IggyPop. Have even gone on internet to see how to reset it but the bastard remains loyal to you. Am going to get TYF to have yet another look at it when droid starts next week.

PPPS Have just realised I am the official BESH charity case/shameless freebie-grabber

iggs All input is good input - tee hee.

I have said these exact same things to other humans, which is why I needed the sanity check. I haz a Persona but is much more inexact (afaik) than the Clearblue. And I could just temp again.

Thing is, with the male factor issues, we can't just do the bonking every other day as an attempt, as I think even that could, ahem, deplete his scarce resources.

JohnnyBangBang Definitely not even contemplating delaying treatment. Just looking for something to do until we get a start date.

Wasn't sure whether you had your start date yet, you see. That and je suis twat.

Kim deal has had horatio maximus banana hammock! At 5am! All's well more news later.

Wooooooop! x1000000000000

Hooray for KimDeal! Horatio Maximus Banana Hammock Deal - what a lovely name. Whooop!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! More BeshBabies! Congratulations, KimDeal!

(eddie You is not a twat, you is gorgy. Now shush.)

Yay for KimDeal!!! Woop woop That is bloody brilliant news!

Yay for Kimmy!! Has she been instructed to provide us with pics/details at the earliest opportunity??

Hurray for KimDeal and little HMBHD. Ah I remember the days when she was as BESH as the rest of us, now she is merely ESH. Fair brings a tear to my eye and hope to my heart (especially since I think she is older than me ).

Humpy, when in a situation I can't really control, I always feel better for doing something that might help, even if it's something that's not highly likely to impact on the outcome, IYSWIM.

Do you have to temp/POAS/CBFM? Appreciate that you can't do it absolutely loads because of MFI (not the defunct purveyor of wonky furniture), but is there some middle ground, TTC-lite as Scorps says?

You are all the voices of reason and I love you all very much.

TTC-lite is what I have been doing. I just have a ridonkulous need to do MORE. But there isn't really any more to do, so I shall be all zen and mindful. Huzzah.