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ANY ADVICE ON CLOMID????

356 replies

milesysgirl · 30/07/2005 21:42

my doctor has just put me on norethisterone [menzol] and clomid after trying for a baby for over a year just wondering if any one had ne advice ,info or experience of either drugs?????

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Roobedoo · 18/10/2005 20:41

My follicles appreciate all your words of encouragement! Thank you.

Loubie, I'd take a break. My nurse told me that clomid stays in your system and builds each month and once the ovaries are stimulated it can carry on even when not on the clomid - so have a month of and enjoy!

ionaming · 18/10/2005 20:56

Hi Katierocket, good news, I got my consultant appointment through today for 16th November. I was referred a month ago, so I'm pretty lucky that it's only a 2 month wait in total. Was expecting to wait months & months. Now I'm just hoping he doesn't want to repeat all my blood tests & will just start treatment.

Sorry you think your AF is on its way Will you carry on taking clomid next month, do you think?

katierocket · 19/10/2005 10:53

ionaming, that is good news, glad to hear you're going to see the consultant.
No, I'm not taking Clomid next month, I need a month off. I'm going to have a HSG and then we have appt to see the consultant again at which point we'll make the decision about IUI. Still can't believe sometimes that we've ended up in this situation

ionaming · 19/10/2005 20:39

Katierocket, I know what you mean about not believing how we've ended up in this situation. When you've had one child you (and everyone else....grrr ) automatically assume you'll conceive another ok. One minute I'm thinking the consultant will be able to prescribe clomid or something to kickstart my ovulation, the next I'm mega-depressed & thinking that maybe I've left it too late now

Hope your next appointment with your consultant goes well. Will you have to pay for IUI yourself? I think I remember reading that they won't fund certain procedures such as IVF if you already have a child - not sure where the cut-off is as to which treatments they will fund & which they won't.

katierocket · 20/10/2005 09:23

yes ionaming, any treatment would have to be paid for (which means a loan because we certainly don't have the money to hand). If you have one child the NHS will pay for the initial investigations but any subsquent treatment has to be paid for privately.

milesysgirl · 21/10/2005 19:45

hi everyone ,how you all doing is there any good news yet?????

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Roobedoo · 21/10/2005 20:53

No news here. Just starting the 'big wait' now, until test date on 2nd November. I hate this bit the most.

milesysgirl · 21/10/2005 22:37

god i know what you mean every month is a waiting game ..... its really starting to do my head in!

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Loubie1968 · 25/10/2005 17:48

I've been waiting a week for my 21 day progesterone level blood test now. I've been ringing the doctors since Friday only to be told they're not in yet, try later/tomorrow etc. Today I rang again and they said it could take 2-3 weeks and they won't chase them up till at least 2 weeks have gone. So I thought I would try ringing my consultants secretary, to see if they've got the results back yet only to be told they don't give 'that sort of information' out over the phone and that I'll have to be patient and wait till my next appointment (which is 6 weeks away!!!)

Who's body is it???? Why aren't I entitled to know what's going on??? It's me who has to go through all the side effects of Clomid, all I want to know is whether or not it's bloody working!!!!!

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH

Thanks for that, I feel better already.

PS It's not going to be my month - I've been spotting for 3 days now and fully expect AF to be here by tomorrow

Roobedoo · 25/10/2005 18:50

Oh dear Loubie - how frustrating. I can't believe the consultant's office won't give you the info - how ridiculous.

I've had a horrific day today with DS - lots of tears, most of which were mine. Feeling very emotional and un-pregnant. Haven't helped myself by believing that if it doesn't work this month it's not going to work (which I know isn't strictly true - but why hasn't it worked yet. Totally fed up. At least it will all be over by Christmas as I'll have had my last two doses by then. Maybe then we'll accept it and move on.

MeerkatsUnite · 26/10/2005 07:22

Roobedoo,

Am really sorry to see its like this - PCOS is a pain in the ass of a gynae condition no matter how "mild" you've been told it is. Even in a so called "mild" case the multiple cystic follicles associated with the condition are still there and thus still causing problems.

From what I've seen it looks like you're on a combination of both clomid and injectibles - am I right?.

The problem that some PCOS patients come across is that many such people can become "clomid resistant". Clomid encourages LH to be produced. If your LH levels are high to start with then more LH is the last thing you need.

I was not given clomid at all for my PCOS diagnosis as the cons said, "it would not help me" (very high LH levels).

I would have strong words with these people next time you see them and discuss other treatment options. If at all possible do not go on your own to this appointment/ One possible one is ovarian diathermy surgery as this seems to have some success with PCOS patients. Was wondering if they've mentioned this at all?.

My counsel is not to give up but to hold off testing. As someone who repeatedly tested with no result (prior to surgery) I can attest to the fact that seeing repeated negatives can become very disheartening.

MeerkatsUnite · 26/10/2005 07:34

Loubie1968,

Am sorry to read that you're being given such a hard time.

The hospital subfertility dept I was under used to tell me my results over the phone - just gave basic details.

I would take a deep breath and phone again. I would ask for the results to be posted to you so you can also go through same with the cons at your next appointment. You can explain that your GP surgery do not have the results yet either and you are looking at having no info at all until your next appointment in six weeks time.

I would also at this appointment talk to the cons about when your results should be known to you as well(basically as soon as they are known IMO). I would stress to them that effective communication between you as a couple and the cons is vitally important - the whole system can fall apart otherwise.

((((((((((Roobedoo and Loubie))))))))))))))

katierocket · 26/10/2005 08:37

loubie, so sorry to hear about the crap service you're getting. I think since starting this process I have become a lot more bolishe (sp?) when it comes to the consultants, I have a list of questions as long as my arm for next appt. I think that to an extent you are just seen as just another infertile couple and you have to really make sure you are heard.
Roobee, sorry to hear about your bad day, it's so so hard isn't it. I have days when I'm horrible to DS and then I feel bad because I think I'm lucky to have one child and I should be being extra nice to him IFYKWIM.

AF arrived for me today , not at all unexpected. SO Clomid didn't work and the next step is an HSG then appt with the consultant after which we'll probably start IUI (assuming my tubes are OK).
Ho hum.

katierocket · 26/10/2005 08:50

ps is it just me or has anyone else put on weight since being on Clomid? Not only am I not pregnant but I'm now 10 pounds heavier Trivial I know but makes me feel even worse abotu the whole thing.

LunarSea · 26/10/2005 10:51

katie - probably! I gain it so easily anyway that I'm deliberatly NOT weighing myself to find out, as I don't want to get into the situation where it's not only not working, but it's had negative side effects too. Looks like next step for us is going to be double dose of clomid, plus progesterone - just need to wait for things to get back on an even keel again before that can happen though.

Loubie37 · 26/10/2005 11:26

Thanks everyone - I rang the GP surgery again this morning, my results still aren't back, but at least the receptionist I spoke to was more sympathetic. I explained to her why it was so important that I find out my results and she suggested I ring back this afternoon as they are expecting a batch of results at lunch time. If they're still not back, she suggested I ask whoever I speak to if they would chase it up for me. Let's just hope the person I speak to at 3pm is just as understanding.

I know I'm not PG, but it would be nice to know that the clomid pills are actually working. Somehow it will make them more palatable IYKWIM.

And if it's not working? Well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Thanks again.

Sorry about your AF turning up Katierocket - fingers crossed for the next step for you.

Roobedoo · 26/10/2005 11:30

I've put on half a stone - comfort eating hasn't helped though!

Loubie37 · 27/10/2005 09:31

I'm feeling really down - just got my 21 day progesterone level back, it's 20 which means the Clomid's not working. So despite getting a smiley face on the OPKs and an increase in temperature, it's all been for nothing. I'm on CD2 again but can't even bring myself to take my first pill - I feel like it's all been for nothing so far. I feel like such a failure.

Anyway, I won't be visiting for a while - my OH has asked me to have a month off charting, OPKs, timed sex and baby forums to see if it makes a difference. So this month it's just going to be Clomid, my 21 day blood test and sex when we want it rather than when we think we need it.

It's been my way up till now, all he wants is one month of doing things his way which isn't too much to ask and will hopefully help with the 'performance anxiety' he sometimes gets when he feels under pressure to perform.

I really hope someone gets a BFP soon - see you all in a month. All the best and thanks for your support.

katierocket · 27/10/2005 09:34

good luck Loubie, hope to see you soon. I completely understand your decision {{hugs}}

Roobedoo · 28/10/2005 11:14

Good luck Loubie, a month off will probably do you the world of good.

Roobedoo · 31/10/2005 10:38

Feeling really stressed at the mo. Had a terrible night where I kept dreaming about a big clock ticking away, counting down the two months we have left on clomid. Really need to find ways to relax.

Poor DH, I've told him that we're going to have a month completely off the booze. In fact, I told him we're going to live like monks - then he pointed out monks don't have sex! Think I'm going bonkers!

katierocket · 31/10/2005 20:47

Roobedoo, There's nothing I can say to make you feel better except that I do really understand how you feel, it's so hard isn't it. Keep going, it will be your turn soon. x

Roobedoo · 01/11/2005 20:45

Thanks Katierocket. Due to test tomorrow, but as last time, am expecting AF. Actually did a test today, God knows why, no preg symptoms just period pains. BFN of course. Sometimes you just do these things though don't you.

milesysgirl · 01/11/2005 20:58

its so sad that none of us can seem to get a bfp at the mo. my af is due at the end of the week and i think she will be here this is my last month on clomid i go back to the consultent at the end of the month not really sure what he will suggest next ..... do you?????

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Roobedoo · 01/11/2005 21:03

How many months have you had milesy? Sorry if I've asked before. No idea what your Cons will say - interested to know though. Think Katierocket said it's IUI next, but not sure if that's for everyone or just where she is. It's IUI here I think.