Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome.

[VivClicquot]

So, I thought I'd take it upon myself to kickstart the new thread. As the title suggests, this is a wonderful home full of the bravest, funniest and most inspirational women on Mumsnet, who are always ready to lend an ear and a virtual glass of wine.

The new thread is kicked off with 3 bfps in 3 days, so here's to more love and luck along the way

xx

Hi all , in work on stoopid phone so I'll catch up properly later.
sorry for not name checking.

Jolls how long ago did you work for TBS?

Digital girl I'm so sorry to hear your having a pants time of it. Try to look after yourself - you are very brave.

I did do a long post earlier, but somehow it never posted! The short story us that clearly the pt came in a pack of two and of course I did the second this am - to the same bfn - Im a sadist! On phone now so will wave to everyone- hope all are doing ok in the sunshine today xx

Am now adding fortnums to the list...

Oh digitalgirl, I didn't quite realise that you were in the middle of miscarrying. Hope you have lots of RL support, and people taking care of you.

Thanks GLB for the explanations. I quite like the RTD expression!

Digitalgirl- hope you are ok

Evening ladies, I hope everyone is doing OK.

Digitalgirl Hope you are OK and resting?

GLB Great to see you on the Grads list - will you be leaving us is sticking around for a bit?

Ladybee I was responding to Cheepz as she was asking whether to SWI with/without precautions as she didn't want to get PG. I said I would def recommend SWI with no precautions!

Anyone done anything interesting today? I went to a conference in Liverpool and it was really interesting and in a great location.

No more queasy feelings for me and too early to test - need to wait to CD 37/38. Wondering if it was all a coincidence and to cap it all off, I have a spectacular eruption of spots which is a bit rubbish.

Hi- has this thread disappeared from the conception boards? Couldn't find it on there ?

Wyg- urggh spots are the worst, still haven't got rid of mine from last cycle

Hi all
MrsG was there probably before you were even born... 1987-1997. Happy times.... Are you also ex TBS?

digital it's lovely your mum is coming to help you out and is so supportive... I know it's hard when people don't really understand the ins and outs of what we are going/have gone through. That's where we on here can help

Off to put flatpack furniture together. OOOO the excitement ... x

What's going on with this thread tonight?
I posted before and it didn't appear.

digigirl how are you holding up? Xx

Hello to BUnder, LadyBee and NBelle too, sorry you had to join but we're very nice if we do say so ourselves.

Happy so glad to hear things are good, I'll be thinking if you tomorrow.

Jolls not so much ex.
I'm bobbing on a bit and was 18 when you left.
They must have been " The good old days."

Cheepz I'll have to stop reading your posts whilst on public transport, a loud "Hmmmmm, Aaahhhhh" and nodding at my phone makes me look like a loon when alone on a packed bus.
You are quite right bout shifting focus.

I need a prize please
I finished my first Lindt bunny a second ago.
Didn't eat the bell though.
One down, one more and MrG's 1 egg to go.
Prize please.
Not chocolate .

MrsPretty - a non-chocolate prize, is there such a thing? Well done, you have done well, particularly not eating the bell. Did you take the foil off first though or would that have taken too much time?

WYG - I'm going to be stalking popping in lots still, still come here on autopilot when I get into work. I take it the trip over the pennines was just a day trip? Can't remember where in West Yorks you're from - I'm a Barnsley girl myself so not too far off.

Spots. I have a massive one on the end of my nose. There's no hiding it, so I'm accentuating it with makeup to make it an interesting "feature" on my face.

xxx

Meant to say Digigirl - how are you today?

xx

MrsG/Pretty, no way is that where you are now? That caused you all that grief and turmoil?? Shocking. Sorry to hear that. Businesses change of course over time, and as they grow (too big IMHO), and the L'Oreal thing will have adjusted the culture also. I joined as a Xmas Temp whilst a student, went into store management, managed Brighton (in the days when Anita would come in to cash a cheque on a Saturday....) and then 3 years in the Training Department. I hardly know anyone there now, a couple of bods in Littlehampton and now London, but probably no one in the stores I would imagine... I had it in my head you worked in fashion? I do remember the benefits were always good for retail... loved the holiday!!!

Hi to all. 2nd acupuncture appointment tomorrow. Day 21 test to check progesterone level next week. No S(WorWO)I going on here... too darn pooped...

Tattiebyes.

Morning everyone xxx

digitalgirl - hope you're doing okay, lovely.

jolls - it's my second acupuncture appointment at midday today. I definitely think something's working - got my first high on the CBFM this morning despite it only being D10 and (TMI) alert, am producing unholy amounts of cm. My only concern is that we've got BIL and SIL coming to stay at ours on Friday night, and at this rate, I have a feeling Friday and Saturday are going to be peak days... may have to resort to some illicit and very quiet SWI....

GLB when you say 'make a feature' of it, do you mean you've drawn a little face on it?!

DH has gone off on a two night business trip (he offered to stay, but have got back up with mum today and friend round tonight). So I went to the hospital on my own where I had blood test for HCG levels. Was hoping for a result within the hour, but they're going to call me back. Was also hoping to speak to someone about next steps, but obv have to wait for results.

Felt a bit teary, but haven't had the full-on waterworks that I did last time. Is that normal?

My mum's been great - although she thinks the NHS are rubbish for not investigating till you've had 3 in a row. She said there's no history of mc in her family. The women have all had really long cycles 6-7 weeks long, but she conceived both me and my sister without problem and has never had a mc herself. Her mum (my grandma) had her when she was 45, and my mum's closest sister had a baby when she was 42. So my eggs should be ok at 31.

So, despite beginning to have the sense of 'relief' that some of you have written about (waking up and knowing for sure you're not PG so not having to worry about it going wrong) am having morbid thoughts about ttc straightaway in order to get the 3rd MC out of the way. Perhaps not the healthiest of attitudes, it's only day 3 though I'm allowed to think like a freak for a bit.

Thanks for the welcome, sad to be on this thread but it helps that you are all so lovely.

I am feeling a bit like a robot as i have just picked myself up and continued on as if nothing has happened. Came straight back to work on Monday and am now worried that at some point in the not to distant future somthing will set me off and that will be it, I will be a wreck for days. It may hit home once we are back at the fertility clinic, which should be within 10-12 weeks. I am just trying to lose some weight in the meantime, one because i need too and two, it gives me something to focus on.

Can anyone give me some advice, on Friday and Saturday i had some quite heavy bleeding but it was quite dark and then it tailed off, today it is getting heavier and is more like fresh blood. Does this sound OK?

Lovely sunny day in Norway today, so at least the sun is giving me something to smile about.

NBelle I had on and off bleeding for about 10 days after the main part of the heavy bleeding. Just as I thought it had stopped, it started again and this happened about 3 times, so I think it's quite normal. I spoke to the doctor about it when i went back for my blood test last week, and he said if it's like the end of period then not to worry but if a bit more than the end of a period, then he would check it out. So I would say, sounds fairly normal but if you have any concerns then get in touch with the EPU or GP just to be sure.

I also feel abit like a robot about the whole thing, but then a good friend pointed out that the body and mind is amazing at dealing with things. It's probably a safety mechanism, in that you (or I) are not ready to deal with it now, so the mind has shut it out until we're ready to deal with it. Somehow that gives me peace of mind that actually I am coping with it in my own way. does that make any sense at all?

On a update of interesting things that have happened today - my ocado delivery just arrived - what an exciting life I lead

Crikey NBelle I don't think I can face work next week, let alone this week. I still feel awful pysically, and can't stand up for more than 10 mins without feeling faint, and flights of stairs have to be done in two sections with a rest inbetween. Maybe I'm subconciously prolonging all the physical stuff so I don't have to face people though...

NBelle can't remember if you had erpc or if its all happening naturally, but i ams till having some dark dc and my erpc was two weeks ago tomorrow, i had 2 days heacy, then nothing for a day or 2, then more heavy bleeding for about 4 or 5 days, some fresh, some dark and now for the last 5 or 6 days its just been dark, although some days more than others - more when i am up and down alot at work, or on the treadmill. Agree tha finding something else to focus on like shedding a few pounds is good not least because it is something you can actually control. Going back to work right away is what I did the first two times, when all was happening naturally, this time around I took a week off, mostly to eat paninis and drink coffee, you might crash emotionally at some point and thats ok, or you might not, it takes us all in different ways

digital i was just like that with third pregnancy, waiting for mc and then can get tests - which i can now, but now i am thinking they are not going to show anything! At 31 you should not have anything to worry about egg wise! Push your GP to try and get the sticky blood tests now you have had two - they won't do all the chromosomal stuff but they can do those, they also won't do any of the immune system tests on NHS so if you want to look into that you have to go private, its pricey, but they will test you for the 'bad cells' and if you have them then you can get an NHS referral for the treatment!

prettyv i hope this has caused much ooohing andd ahhhing on the train

so far today i have bunked off work, had a haircut, done an hour in our gym, got the laundry on (since we are away on the weekend - woot woot), updated my linked in profile and done no work at all - yay another productive day working from home, think i might get a coffee and then tidy up my CV to go for this new job, what is wrong with me? I haven't felt this upbeat in ages!! Sometimes I really dont get where I am coming from

passing on happy good calming vibes to everyone - heres some good news - well for everyone except me and viv, everyone else who was on the very first thread last August is now on the grads .. or has departed once they got pregnant and not gone to the grads - thats people with PCOS, genetic problems, blood problems and some not spring chickens, so thats good isn't it!!! And three have had babies so far... so thats great because the threads only been going 10 months. We will all get to the devil in our own way, and then complain bitterly about sore cracked nipples and sleepless nights and how our DH / DP's do f*ck all while we have to do everything

right, coffee anyone?

Bloody hell Cheepz, that makes me feel old. In fact, I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Acupuncture went well - bizarrely, while she was doing the treatment, my therapist put on the Zita West CD that's aimed at women who are awaiting egg implantation via IVF. Apparently, that was the most appropriate one she had to hand that relates to me being mid-cyle, so now I'm very zen-like and imagining my womb as a "warm, welcoming, healthy haven for my embryo"

nbelle - I was also back at work within days of my two losses, but that's very much my way of 'coping'. I couldn't bear the thought of sitting on my sofa for a week as I knew all I would do is cry, so I found coming to work actually helped me deal with my grief. I appreciate it's a very personal thing though, so don't be too hard on yourself xx

Hello, thought I would whack on a list since there wasn't one there (cue for at least 3 others to have the same idea at the same time).

To the CBFM crew I got 4 highs followed by 2 peaks last few days so have been taking action

Nbelle i went back 3 weeks after ERPC but that included the christmas hols. I actually found being backed helped initially because left alone I would spend the entire time greetin. However, just watch out that you are still letting yourself grieve and think about what happened. I think I dove into work at the expense of those feelings and it all caught up on me eventually with unpleasant consequences.

Cheepz that's a lovely thought about all those that have passed through here. You are an almighty optimist lady! Its great.

ok,I'll paste the list. Who will we be egging to test soon, G1lda, WYG - anyone else about close to the top?

Wednesday's List:

Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD60
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 4 CD38
Limelight TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD38
Liahgen TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 CD34
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD33
Malteser1981 TTC#? UCL28 cycle 1 CD32
westyorkshiregirl TTC#1 UCL37 cycle 2 CD28
Gi1da TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD26
Urd TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD26
Allthe8s TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD23
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 1 CD23
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle2 CD21
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 2 CD21
BunnyBaby TTC#3 UCL31 cycle 2 CD20
Icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 cycle 12 UCL24-32 CD20
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD19
LucyT66 TTC#1 UCL33-34 cycle 4 CD19
JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD16
albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle 2 CD15
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 4 CD14
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle2 CD13
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD10
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD8
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD7
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 3 CD6

BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36 CD ??

WTTC
Muser TTC#1 EP 18/02/10 on month 2 of 3 month wait
MrsGazebo TTC#1 MMC6 Molar 8/1/10. On 3-6 month wait
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 6 week wait post ERPC
Jollster TTC#2 MMC 26/2/10 couple of cycles wait on acupuncturist advice
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 1 of 2 or 3 cycle wait
LadyBee TTC#2 ERPC 08/04/10

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Barrenbrook BFP 6th April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April

warm welcoming womb lmao - was considering zita west clinic but its sounding a little biit la la land for me

sorry bout outing you viv but i thought at least everyone else would feel better!! and I am still here too - two additional failed pregnancies later, my womb is clearly not warm and welcoming enough!!

meant to say digital and anyone else for that matter - if you want the immune system tests you might as well find a clinic that does then after first or second mc as the NHS won't do them! no point in waiting there.

I have done still no work, but I have posted a blog and played solitaire for 45 mins..... off to get DS shortly, was his first day at nursery in pants, I wonder how many wet pairs of pants and trousers I will be bringing home!

Cheepz - I concur with Moo - what a wonderful and uplifting optimist you are. Thank you.

NBelle - dunno about returning to work. As I work from home I didn't tell anyone at 'work' about my miscarriage. There didn't seem much point and as an academic I have pretty flexible hours. The big problem was (and still is) I have to write a paper about medieval fertility miracles! So am spending my days translating accounts of 12th century miscarriages. Not really what you need, but it's oddly comforting reading about experiences written down 800 years ago. Miscarriage isn't something that's just happened to me IYSWIM.

Hi ladies hope you are all well, have had a nice day with the kids at the farm......glad its wednesday, have finished work for the week and its downhill to the weekend and the end of the 2ww.........spent the last 2 days blubbing uncontrollably at any given point and have had a lump in my throat all the time.....(def hormonal) and have had the old stretchy cramps on and off for a week......who knows......

Hope DS did well at nursery Cheepz today

Redhead that sounds really interesting........I would like to hear more.

Glad your needles went well today Viv. Joll how did you get on?

Freezing that makes perfect sense to me.

Bunder I know that feeling...it gets better just take it as slow as you need. NBelle & Digitalgirl how are you feeling?

Apologies for shortening your names, I am shattered, need to go food shopping too bore me.....big hi to everyone else hope you are all well xxx

am supposed to be going straight to the gym after work tonight, but have decided to pop on here to procrastinate before the huffing begins...

Cheepz - what a lovely thought - here's to you and viv and lots of sticky babydust for the future

viv - think that CD may have had me in uncontrollable giggles - look in to my eyes, not around the eyes etc!

moo - oooh v exciting - I'm still on the highs - now 9 days in a row - which is just as well as haven't actually managed any proper action in that time - argh. Forgot to take stick out of monitor this morning, but by dates it should be a peak for me today (if i have a 14 day luteal phase). This cycle is definitely feeling more "normal" than the last few so fingers crossed!

MrsG NO MORE CHOCCIE - ARGH!

NBelle I remember feeling robot like for a good 5 days, then it really hit me and i couldn't stop crying - think there is definitely some delayed shock reaction you can get.

Cheepz (again) although devastated by my MMC, i did rather enjoy being off work, shopping, seeing my NCT gang and being a SAHM for a bit (albeit a slightly crazed one)

Allthe8s let the symptom spotting begin! good luck to you x

Right this update has wasted me a good 15 mins - can't put it off any longer, gym here i come...

Hi all, I'm off to the cinema tonight, not sure what I'm going to see, got invited out and it's been so long since I've been to our local picturehouse I didn't care what it was we were going to see

Have read all the posts but no time to respond individually. But I did find the observation about all the graduates really positive and encouraging. I think I'm gradually acknowledging to myself that getting pg again straight away might not necessarily be the right thing, or an easy thing. Which is a bit of a step forward I think.

Digitalgirl I think that thought about getting the 3rd MC out the way is completely understandable. Had a long phone call last night with a friend who had 2 MMC in a row and she felt exactly the same about her subsequent pregnancy. Especially, seeing her cousin had 5 MC in a row and was diagnosed with something (not sure what, she now has a DC). She's 32 weeks pg at the moment but this pg has been an enormous mental struggle for her.