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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 5

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Bumpless · 23/03/2010 10:02

Thought I'd set us up a new home! kettle's on and choc tin open.

This is a lucky start to our new thread: 2 BFPs and a fantastic fertilisation rate from Dueling!

Boobs and biscuits to everyone

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Idreaminfruitandnut · 02/09/2010 22:15

Hello!!

I haven't been lurking at all, but just decided to have a nosey and see who was about and I can't believe that my old friend Italian was asking after me only yesterday! What are the chances?

I'm finally doing okay - was preeetty low for a good few months. I've got myself a new job (deciding who gets rockets and who doesn't - ooh, the power!), but I haven't started it yet. No I wasn't having a FET as unfortuanetly we only got one embryo last time - we originally planned to have another cyle in September but as we still have no kitchen and therefore I still haven't managed to lose any weight we've put it off until November, but I may put it off even further - not decided yet.

Hope everyone's okay - Italain I haven't back read so what is it you will be at the top of the list for in May?

Speak soon,

Idream xxx

rowingboat · 02/09/2010 22:39

Hi all,

Horton, that's great news! I'm sure Lottie will be on to tell you about her four eggs, which resulted in her gorgeous girls.

Hi Idream. Not having a kitchen sounds rather challenging. How are you managing? Not cold beans out of tins?

BB good luck with Gorgy. I hope the tests put your mind at rest.

I'm so sad, I'm sitting looking at prams - I am a pramoholic, just love them! Shoot me!

lateatwork · 02/09/2010 22:50

horton fingers crossed that all goes well with the next phase

bags loved your info. have sent in my paperwork to ARGC now to schedule appt.. and then will do compare and contrast with the Lister.. then select clinc, treatment, stab myself with a few needles and bingo get pregnant.. hmmm maybe a warped view of IVF and a tad optimistic...

AFM OH has been for job interview so things looking up.

Horton · 03/09/2010 11:45

Hello, all.

Just an update that our four eggs have turned into two embryos. So we have our transfer tomorrow, as long as they make it that far. Feeling very weepy and down at the mo. Must pull self together. I also have a very sore tum from egg collection which I didn't last time, at least not so much.

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Cerubina · 03/09/2010 16:26

Best of luck for it Horton. Try not to be disappointed, you have two embies and there is absolutely no reason why one or both won't take. Having a spare 10 wouldn't make any difference, these ones are the ones being put back and they have managed to get over all the hurdles so far so they must be triers, right?!

Focus all your energy on getting ready for the transfer, sleep well tonight, take it nice and easy over the weekend and try the power of positive thinking. Once they're in spend a few minutes a few times a day sitting quietly and thinking good thoughts about implantation, fertile and healthy wombs, embies embedding and implanting...I did all this and I felt I was doing something towards the cause!

Thinking of you and hoping this is all going to go your way.

LissySilver · 03/09/2010 20:26

Horton, two embies is brilliant!

Cheer up, sweetie. We're all rooting for you! As Cerubina says, get some good rest, and think positive. I know all of us here on Mumsnet are!

Rowing--I'm pretty sure the Yom Kippur thing won't affect much. I'm trying to plan my trigger shot for a Wednesday, so I can have my EC on a Friday (when I'm off work), and early enough so I can go to Synagogue on Friday night.

Baby trumps the high holidays as far as I'm concerned Grin

Horton · 03/09/2010 20:40

Ah, you lovely people. You have made me feel one hundred percent better (although still weepy for some reason). Must try and be more positive about this! I like the idea of taking a few minutes to think positive thoughts each day and will definitely do that!

Try not to worry too much about EC coinciding with Yom Kippur, Lissy, (though you do actually sound impressively calm) as in my experience these things rarely seem to happen exactly when medical people say they are going to! And not sure what time synagogue would be, but both times so far I have taken the trigger shot at 10.30pm at night which seems like it may be after your service at the synagogue? Or is it a very late thing?

rowingboat · 03/09/2010 22:26

Hi all,

Horton, the very best of luck tomorrow. Hope it all goes smoothly.
I don't know if you have had a transfer before, but if not you will be pleasantly surprised, it is super-fast.

This has been quite a busy week for us all. I'm feeling a bit frazzled. Managed quite a decent walk today for around an hour, so the being fitter thing is still progressing slowly.

Horton · 04/09/2010 19:23

All went well and I've been resting most of the day. DH driving me bananas with his over-solicitousness. Two on board and I am thinking positive thoughts.

rowingboat · 04/09/2010 22:07

Hi all,

Congratulations Horton! I'm sure this is it! Now is the time to take up a very involved hobby which prevents you from thinking about testing for weeks. Smile

sootykalucy · 05/09/2010 04:28

Howdy from Oz to everyone it's been a long time! Too long to recap all that's happened . .. . so congratulations on all those pregnancies and potential pregnancies.

For some of you who are new - I think I am actually the oldest member of this group, having attempted 8 unsuccessful IVF's over 2008 and 9. So I'll do a bit of a recap as my story has had a very interesting development. At the end of 2009 I was advised that donor egg was my only option, and I have been off in the nether nether land trying to work out how and if I would take up this option.

It took us about 6 months to work through this and the decision I came to was that it had (for me) to be an alturistic donor. All of my close friends are over 40 so the odds were quite low and I was unwilling to put someone through 3 attempts on such low chances, and unwilling to enter into the process again myself without 3 attempts (so we had a decent chance). Finally one of my closest friends convinced me she was happy to do the long haul and she went off the pill. Calamity struck and she actually came down with endometrious that had been hidden by the pill, and has now ended up having a hysterectomy!

So . . . we then decided to advertise. We advertised in a baby magazine in the classifieds and have to date received one response. I met with this woman and her family yesterday (she already has two children) and it was quite amazing. We had already exchanged emails setting out some ground rules (basic values etc) but actually I found we really had a lot in common. And her husband was also very supportive (and with a great sense of dry humour). Anyway there is a long way to go yet, counselling, tests etc. But I just thought I should mention this - we didn't think it would work, but a friend of ours had done it previously and said it has worked very well for them which encouraged us.

Our demand that it be alturistic is about wanting any future child to be completely comfortable with their background and how they came about - as an act of generosity with clear motivations. It also allows for the child to have a relatioship with it's donor if it chooses, and that this is something the donor anticipates on some level.

Anyway, I will let you know how it works out but I just wanted to share this story, because I think this path is often overlooked and it might be of interest for people to know it does exist.

Good luck and I will be in closer touch - particuarly if we actually get to the injection line!

LeviStubbsTears · 05/09/2010 10:01

Very very best of luck, Horton. Two embies did it for me... Will be thinking of you. xx

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rowingboat · 05/09/2010 19:02

Hi all,

Sooty hi there [waves] I do remember you, from the days when Flibberty and Lottie were on here.
I understand your motivation for choosing an altruistic donor. Your poor friend ending up with a hysterectomy, I suppose it would have happened at some point when she changed or stopped taking the pill, but that must have been a shock. Did she have children?
Sounds great that you have found a donor you are comfortable with. Do you think you would stay in touch regularly?
I may be wrong, but do you have a child already?

We are going for a donor embryo in the Czech Republic where all donors remain anonymous, so contact with any genetic parents would be impossible.
I'm not sure how we will handle the information. Since there is no hope of any contact with the donors it changes things from my perspective. I think I will have to do a lot more looking into our options in this area.
On one hand I would like to have a baby which is ours and leave it at that - no further complications, but on the other I don't want to withhold information from the child.
I think it is a 'play it by ear' situation for us. Let's actually get pregnant first! Smile
I think I will be going over for the transfer in the second week of October, so in the meantime I am upping my exercise.
How are you finding OZ?
Looking forward to hearing how you get on with the treatment.

Italiangreyhound · 06/09/2010 02:59

Horton all best wishes for the treatment to work. Well done, two on board Grin, Grin.

Idreaminfruitandnut can it be true, is it you Chocbunny?? Glad you are still working with rockets, sounds very high powered still. What does not having a kitchen to do with not losing weight! Were you using it as gym! No, seriously, I expect you are living on pot noodles! I too have not lost any weight but going to Rosemary Conley this week; join me, we can exercise separately but compare notes! I am serious; there must be some classes in the wilds of wherever you are. I will be at the top of the list for another donor egg (or a few eggs actually). You know that the last lot in March did not work and so we are on schedule for another lot in May next year. Definitely the last go.

Sootykalucy hi, I remember reading your posts when I first started reading back in autumn last year, almost a year ago. We are currently on the list waiting for a donor at a UK clinic. We are expecting to have treatment in May. We had treatment last March (with donor eggs) which failed. Bearing in mind that as a UK recipient of donor eggs at our clinic we only got half the eggs, so we only got 7, but if you are getting all your donor?s eggs per cycle you should get more. All the very best.

Rowing hope all is OK, sorry you are feeling frazzled. Hoping things are on track for you for your treatment.

Lissy and Rowing I am having my final (of three) dentist appointment for root canal work on Thursday. Hooray. Bad news is hubby worrying about money and can?t help thinking my tooth will add to problem but honestly I would have paid £4,000 rather then £400 ? don?t tell the dentist! Or my hubby!

Lissy hope the egg collection goes well, I am sure you will still manage your treatment and synagogue visit. My treatment last year was scheduled just before Christmas and then ended up being at Easter (yes we are Christians so it was a busy a time) and now it is scheduled for May, so yes, you?ve guessed it, just after Easter! Lots of people rave about the Shack, not sure it?s my cup of tea. I can?t seem to read anything longer than a postcard these days! Unless it is on the Internet ? I seem to read a lot on the net!

Kezziah wonderful, so appointment will be soon.

Bagofholly hello, not ?met? you let, hope all is well. Who and where is Dr Gorgy? I am intrigued!

loujalou Glad you have lightened your mood ? can?t believe GP finds ?highly strung people find it harder to conceive? I think that should probably be people who find it hard to conceive are highly strung!

BB good luck with the immune testing.

Cerabina hope scan will go really well. Thinking of you. Yes I agree about the Hagues. I am not a Tory myself but I thought he was a fab leader and I thought he should have been the leader of the Conservatives for a long time. He was very good against Tony on Prime Minister Question Time or something. Yes, it is terrible their personal tragedies have got dragged through the press but I expect some journalists do not care!

MM are you still lurking? Any news?

Who is watching the X Factor, did anyone see the girl hit her own friend on stage having insulted the audience and asked Danni Minogue who she was! It was so weird, but the singer Cher was great. I am a saddo, I am hooked, 6 years ago I watched X Factor in hospital when I had DD or possibly just when I went in early when they thought I was going into labour early so it always reminds me of that. I still have a paid for swipe card for the hospital telly in my purse, been waiting five years to use it again! Yes, saddo alert!

MercenaryMom · 06/09/2010 12:58

Hi everyone! Just a quick message to say that I'm still lurking - and keeping my fingers crossed for everyone.

Horton great news about getting two on board! And great to hear that your DH has been looking after you. Hows the 2ww been treating you? I recommend lots of trashy novels and lots of telly that doesn't make you think too hard!

Lissy my American comrade - how's the sniffing going? Any better idea when your EC will be? And how is it balancing IVF treatment with work as a nanny? I'm guessing it must be difficult since you can't exactly disappear for a "long lunch". Hope you're holding up!

Cerubina I'm still so happy for you! When is your first scan?

Italian I'm glad your dental problems have been resolved (ouch!) and good to see that you're staying positive. May doesn't really seem that far away, you know...

Rowing and BB good luck with your tests. I really hope you get some answers, since at least if you know there is a problem, you can start doing something about it.

Sooty thanks for your story - very interesting. And best of luck with your donor. Altruistic donors are pretty amazing. An altruistic donor saved my DH's life by donating bone marrow - not quite the same thing, but makes you appreciate how such a selfless act of kindness can really change someone's life!

Idream welcome back! We missed you! Sorry to hear that you've been feeling down - but come back and let us cheer you up!

Levi congrats on making it to 19 weeks - how exciting! Time really does fly...

LAW I hope that your DH's job interview went well.

Big waves to everyone else - apologies to those I've missed.

Not much to report from my end - just settling into our new life in Oz and getting used to my new, round shape. I've got my nuchal fold scan on Wednesday and am looking forward to seeing the twinkies again!Grin

rowingboat · 06/09/2010 19:55

Hi all,

Italian, there you are! I agree it is worth a high price to have unsore teeth. Any head-related pain is awful, it's kind of where you 'live' in your head, if that makes sense.

What is the Rosemary Conley class? I don't think I'm going to be able to get to a class anytime soon, but a couple of miles yesterday and will be doing 20 mins on my exercise bike in front of telly tonight. It's a bit of a lazy way to improve my fitness, but at least I can fit it in.
Not really managing to eat less. DP brought home an enormous doggy-bag from a Christening yesterday so had mini quich and cocktail sausages for lunch, feel very unhealthy.
Also had a lunch with the girls yesterday and it's my birthday tomozz so more food on the horizon.
Oh dear, how does Kate Moss do it - oh yes, she smokes and drinks coffee all day.
That has to be a killer when you hit forty doesn't it?! I don't think I could get out of bed if I drank coffee and smoked all day.

MM what's OZ like? Have you got your DD into a group/creche or class of some sort yet? They are heavily into children's swimming there, does your DD swim yet?
Can't wait to hear how the scan goes and what those bubs are getting up to in there.
Are you talking to them? Smile

I have a funny feeling that I may be ovulating, even though this would be three days early. Just have that achy feeling.
Should have bought some OPKs!!!
There should be some on their way, I do hope I'm wrong! Shock

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rowingboat · 06/09/2010 21:23

Hi all,
BB is that a real diet or did you make it up? I like it! Smile

LissySilver · 07/09/2010 13:23

Hi everyone!

MM--Glad to hear you're settling in and feeling good. Luckily, my nanny job starts at 3PM, which leaves my mornings and early afternoons free for appointments and whatnot. Plus, the family that hired me knows about my treatment, and hired me anyway knowing that if all was successful it would be less than a year with them. The kids really liked me, which is quite flattering.

Horton--Been thinking about you, sweetie, especially since I've started my cycle. Lots of sticky thoughts and prayers your way...

Cerubina--How you feeling?

Italian--Glad to hear the teeth thing is being resolved. Bet that'll raise your spirits!

Levi--So excited for you!

Had an appointment at the FC this morning. Lining looks fab, so I'm on to the stimming starting tomorrow night! Luckily, I've never been squeamish about giving myself shots, so it'll be a piece of cake! Hoping for EC next Friday, but we'll see how it goes.

Hugs and chocolate biscuits to those I've missed!

rowingboat · 07/09/2010 13:45

Hi everyone,

Lissy that all sound exciting and a great set-up with the family, perfect!
What will you be stimming with? Big needles?

It's my birthday today, but I'm not really [ahem] talking about it!! ShockGrin

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Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2010 08:32

Happy birthday Rowing. Rosemary Conley is a weight loss class but with an excercise session, I think it is the only one of its type and is franchised throughtt Britain.

BB please do tell more about your meeting if able to.

I wrote this last night but did not post as I was sooooo tired after my health y walk....DH and I made up after a row! There was something at work about situations in another country and it was so traumatic and sad I thought why waste time on petty rows!

I had a BFN today. I didn't bother posting that I was late as I know it was HIGHLY unlikely anything was up! Anyway, after about 6 days I caved in and brought a test from my local store. It was sealed so tight in a plastic case that I had to rip the thing open with my teeth while sitting on the loo trying very hard not to pee!

Anyway, I finally got it open, and peed and of course, BFN. Sad

I think the whole waiting for donor eggs thing is good but everyone now and again I think how nice it would be to not pay £6K for treatment and also that the baby (if there were one) would be just like my DD! But really there might be a baby who looked nothing like my lovely DD. I do kind of feel she is the best of me and the best of hubby. Anyway, Rosemary Conley tomorrow! Grin which means today now!!!!!

Sorry it's all me, me, me!

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