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VJay · 22/03/2010 13:12

A new home ladies! Tis the season for mini eggs , time for baby neeko to arrive, and more BFP's, oh and mls joining the bigpant bench

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QuestionAnswered · 02/05/2010 13:56

4ever ooh it must feel so exciting to have a date booked in Great that you seem clear of the GD too and Yah! to no hospital appointments

monkey hope your appointment went well and any questions you had were answered. Sorry that you had to cope with seeing pregnant women there too, 4evers description was moving. So hope that you have manged to enjoy your break and looking forward to hearing about it

louey I wonder if your DH just doesn't want the pressure of TTC and is worried about thinking about it all iyswim? Perhaps he wants to just let nature take it's course without the over analytical stance that I woman tend to take about TTC. From what I have read you are actually most fertile after a MC Good luck with the Potty training, I think you are right to give it a little more time before deciding what to do, if after a week there are still more misses than hits, I would wait until the summer when your Ds can go without pants and trousers more to make it easier.

neeko cake went V.quickly! Well done to you going to the BF support group, do you support other mums there? I am impressed, especially as you were so tired.

blue hope you had a good night out and didn't spend too much. I was find I spend more than I planned to at these kind of things. I always feel obliged to get something. It used to be Ann Summers parties when I was younger, now it's all Jamie Oliver parties and Virgin Vie

iggy hypnobirthing sounds great. Have you picked up some good tips?

cupcake Very at your hotel break. Sounds like a great way to relax pre-baby. Plus added bonus of a massive birthing pool if baby had come early

barbie the only advice I can give is to get regular naps in the day sorted and that helps with the nights. I think the sleep cues can be hard to spot as they just don't seem tired until they are overtired, like you said. Basically look for D having a nap every 2-3 hours. Do whatever you need to initially to get her to sleep then rather that worrying about self settling and all that. In the night (you probably do all this) but keep everything low light, quite voices, don't leave the room where she sleeps until morning and don't change nappies unless you need to! Mind you, she is beautiful so at least that helps when you are desperately trying to get her to sleep

vjay it goes so quickly doesn't it. Is Ajay picking up speed with the crawling now too? Once they have got it, they get so fast so quickly. You should be really proud of yourself for nipping things in the bud and recognising how you were feeling.

moon sorry about the bad news, but I do hope you stay around more, I am going to need some company in the small pants crew! I can't have this lot over running the place with baby talk

curly and Gracie Sorry you are both suffering with the lack of sleep too, can only agree with satin, that things do get easier and sometimes it only takes 1 day to turn a corner.

mermaid you are doing so well to keep it together, the waiting is almost over and those symptoms do sound promising.

sabs I'll take a hug, as you're offering!

'There is a reason it is used as a form of torture Barbie, Curly, Vjay, Gracie, neeko really hope the sleep situation improves soon' well said and so true louey

Hope I haven't missed anyone, scrolling backwards and forwards to read everyone's post has made me goggle eyed

We have had a lazy day at home today (still in my dressing gown ) after a good night out on Friday and friends over yesterday with their DS. I love bank holiday weekends. DS is being extra adorable and has enjoyed just chilling out this morning, but I need to get dressed now and actually get some fresh air!

loueytbg · 02/05/2010 14:22

QA I'm glad you are having a lovely weekend. Its so nice when your LOs are being on their best behaviour, you forget that they can be little monsters at times. You may be right about DH, although last night he did say that he should probably start wearing his "magic hats" (as he calls them) soon. I'm not encouraging him to though and have not mentioned TTC again. Hopefully will take the pressure off him so that when I get an +OPK, I can surreptitiously (?sp) jump him

vjay hope you are enjoying having just Ajay to yourself for a while. Your TV nostaglia evening sounded fab.

VJay · 02/05/2010 15:14

louey I think you mean blue as my ds1 is hogging the tv with his wii!!!

blue what were those selfhelp books you had, if you remember? I am the same in finding something good in my life everyday, and I am very appreciative of what I've got, and I talk to my nan and sister a lot too which does help, just wish I could see them more often then once or twice a year.
Your telly night sounded fab, I love the Thornbirds, I've read the book at least twice, it's great.

QA yes Ajay is picking up speed, and it is so cute to have him following me

Well we've not long got back from the park, ds1 did so well on his bike, he tried so hard and managed to peddle without me a few yards before wobbling and falling off. He was very brave and kept on picking himself up, saying 'I'm OK, I'm OK', mummys little hero So we went to the shop and got him an ice cream afterwards. Ajay just sat in his buggy and watched the whole time. I did pop him in a swing for the first time, and he loved it, the little daredevil

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loueytbg · 02/05/2010 15:33

Doh - sorry vjay am blaming my cold for the fact I'm a thicko. Well done to DS1 - sounds like he's got over the hardest bit which is trying in the first place.

VJay · 02/05/2010 15:46

louey, my ds1 was around 3 when he started potty training, I had been trying on and off before then, but in the end left it up to him to decide when he was ready, and he managed it quite quick, but only daytime. He came out of nappies during the night when he was 5 and that was because he was starting school, and I didn't want him telling people he was still in nappies, he's very open and honest. So I stopped late drinks and lifted him when I went to bed. Nowadays he still has an early bedtime drink, but I don't lift him as much and we still get wet nights, but it's not too bad.

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BlueMoon1981 · 02/05/2010 20:26

i am still here just been catching up.

df has a relative who has been given a week to live (cant say too much as i have family on here and dont want to be found out) so have been at the hospital this weekend, we are very tired and selfishly have been feeling crap cuz last time i went to a hospital it was for mc no. 2 so i felt sick walking up to the entrance even though it wasnt the same hospital. then when we were there, some distant relatives of dfs were there, who had the 2 most adorable girls, one of which was still a baby and i couldnt take my eyes off her, then she took a liking to me and wanted to touch my hands all the time, i just wanted to sit there and cry. been a horrible weekend. also have some problems going on with another of dfs family, its an ongoing thing but has come to a head again (sorry cant say any more), and tonight when we got in, we found out another family member is now in hospital, my head is in bits so goodness knows what my poor df is feeling.

i think im cd 35 now

sorry for rant and not saying hello to everyone, just popping in while i know i can, hope you are all ok xxx

MummyLovesSadie · 02/05/2010 22:38

Hello lovely ladies, I'm back from the wilds of Scotland.... well it was quite suburban actually! Tell me Scots folk - is it mandatory to turn your heating off by February up there or is it just my sil?? Actually I have to say that Neeko's house was lovely & warm!

Well I've tried to have a quick catch-up & Monkey once again my heart goes out to you. Of course you were there for your lost boy. 'Being there' doesn't have to mean physically. Spiritually, mentally & in your heart you have been with him every step of the way. How did your counseling session go (sorry if you've already said & I missed it)?

Moon I'm sorry you are going through so much bad stuff family wise. How can you get to day 35 & not have done a test???!

Mermaid I was updated on your symptoms by Neeko & it does sound very promising but I bet your head is all over the place right now. I can't believe they didn't offer to scan you after 1 week instead of 2.

Blue ds2 is soooooooooo sweet in the piccie. I'm glad the day went well. What's with all the Yank trashy tv hey??! Give me Casualty any day!

Jools glad you are back & didn't get caught up in that car-bomb. It must be weird seeing the hotel you were just staying in on the telly.

Neeko it was indeed fab meeting you too! Our dd's were so cute together, pics will be coming tomorrow. It was so funny when your dd said quietly about my dd "Why does she speak funny"!!

Eeeeeek 4ever you actually have a date da-da-daaaaaaaaaaaaaa how exciting!

Louey I think your plan is a good one, we woman are a lot LOT more sneaky than men would ever suspect ! I've heard lots of examples of people getting pregnant 2 weeks after an erpc or a mc without ever having had their af first.

Gracie & Barbie I'm sorry you are being tortured by lack of sleep, it's such a killer. When you are pregnant with your first & people make jokes about lack of sleep, you think 'yeah yeah whatever' but when that lack of sleep is happening, you realise why people make such a big deal of it. Slowly slowly it WILL get easier.

Iggy marzipan = bleurgh!

Cupcake, love your boys names. I have to admit I'll be really shocked if you have a girl.

Vjay I'm glad things are looking up for you. You sound so chirpy so obviously deciding to have therapy is a step in the right direction. Also congrats to ds1 for going out on his bike .

Sabs I'm not going near that fb logo - why the hell would anyone want to publish the private (& sometimes downright embarrassing) things we write about to the whole of the fb universe????!

Waves to PFJ (where are you?), QA, Curly, BQ & anyone else I may have missed. I really must go to bed now.

Hey, we need a new thread soon.

Night night.

Neeko · 03/05/2010 08:57

Hi all. Lurking a lot here, but struggling to post. Have so much I want to say but no time to say it Sending huge hugs to those that need them and following alll your stories with bated breath.
My exam marking starts next week and is causing me serious stress. Will be on here when I can.

H just filled her nappy. Gotta go...

barbie1 · 03/05/2010 10:49

Hello...

Ive been trying to get dd asleep literally since i last posted...which was when? Friday?

Saturday she was just so over tired that i spent 3 hours trying to get her to sleep and when i finally did she was on her belly so in order not to wake her after all the hard work i left her on it . However due to being so scared of cot death etc i ended up sitting with her and watching her breathe while i read a whole book. Typical that this was the one time she decided to sleep for 2 and a half hours...so that was 5 and a half hours on our weekend spent with me on my own in the bedroom Thanks to gg for texting me and stopping me from losing my marbles!

tHanks q&a for giving me some tips....im doing everything i can to get her too sleep, walking, rocking, crying (me and her!) singing (that made her cry more...my voice isnt very x factor worthy!) I cant swaddle her as she hates it and its too hot anyway, cant walk her outside in the heat what to do hey......
I have managed to get her to sleep twice today but it was such an effort for what turned out to be only 20 mins naps...im hoping wiseblue is right and that it will settle soon once we hit the magic 3 month mark

I am however very good at james bond style moves, rolling off the bed and onto the floor, crawling to the door and then sprinting down the stairs all minus any sound and all before dd notices im gone!

mermaid loved your last post, it made me smile....glad you are still positive, the symptoms all sound like they should be I hope you are surviving the bank hols...not too long to wait now.

neeko i know what you mean about not having the time to post...hope the nappy wasnt too horrible for you!

mls glad you had a nice time with our lovely neeko do you think she turned of the heating the moment you left her house?

moon ah love...sorry to hear you are having a bad time...rant away on here, we wont give you away....cd?? I know what you mean about hospital...one day though you will change your mind when you are leaving with your little bundle of joy...I should of gone about my heart yesterday but i bottled it cancelled it as dh had work and madam has been so grumpy lately..ive rebooked for when my mum comes over

curly how are you, i would love to talk to you! Im struggling to find the baby whisperer book in dubai, can you pls give me some tips?????

gg i know how you feel, i do hope your dh gives you a break from it all every now and again what such long hours he is working! Have you tried Issy on a different type of bottle, might be just because she doesnt like that particular brand??? fab thing to do re breast milk, i sadly havent had the time or energy to express much at all, although thankfully dh does the 10pm fed by bottle but normally im asleep by then and wake up with dripping boobies!

4ever are you ok? you seem to have gove a little quiet on us???

cupcake glad you enjoyed the spa...still very envious says me who is looking at her hairy legs, chipped varnish and white body. More slummy mummy than yummy mummy today!

blue thats so much for your wise words...i must sound like im constantly moaning [blush Im honestly not, i love her to bits but its just so bloody hard, i really had no idea thicko emotion needed! thankfully i have some new first time mummy friends so im sure we can help each other through it. i'm mainly just in need of reassurance that i'm not a crap mummy, and that others also have issues!

sabs keep missing you on fb chat...sorry! im in awe of all your activties, you really are supermum!

pfj where are you, hope you are ok.

jools scary about the bomb, glad you are home safe and sound...so did the credit cards take a bit of a bashing

ok must go, but ill be back to finish soon....

barbie1 · 03/05/2010 11:08

oh and more stories from a slummy mummy...

woke this morning thinking i had a huge spot on my boob, only to find it to be a huge dried boogie from dd from her last breast feed...charming girl my daughter

and lesson number 4 in my wise words would be (after the fake tan, maxi dress etc etc) check what you pull from your waredrobe. A pair of black leggings can be easily confused for a black cardi and you will look very very stoopid covering your shoulders in a muslim country with leggings

It could only happen to me

barbie1 · 03/05/2010 11:11

ha ha while ive been typing Devon has fallen asleep on my shoulder!!!! thankyou mn!

QuestionAnswered · 03/05/2010 11:50

vjay well done to DS1! Definitely worth an ice cream

louey sounds like a plan

moon sorry about the diffcult time you are having, sounds like there is alot going on for you at the moment. Like MLS, I am in awe of you resisting testing. A wise move though. I am terrible and can't resist ridiculously early testing.

MLS Hope you had a good time. How are you feeling? Bet your bump is coming along nicely

neeko just keep popping on when you can and don't stress about long posts, you have enough to be doing H must be keeping you very busy and exam marking on top of that definitely will. What subject is it?

Barbie sounds like you are doing a great job. It's still really early days for you and D. Am loving the image of you commando style crawling out of the room, all you need is mission impossible music to accompany you! Good idea to chat to your other friends, when you are alone at home you think no one else could possibly feel like this then you get together and realise you're all going through the same things. Just go easy on yourself and realise that if you get to the end of each day and they have had love, care and all their needs met then you are everything they will ever need. The rest will come in time.
I am not sure your leggings as cardigans would take off on the style and beauty threads

A thought struck me as i have been reading the posts from all the fab saggy panters. I have read that Mums who have had IVF treatment are at a slightly higher risk of suffering with PND and it has been linked to the feeling of working so hard to get the baby that everything has to be perfect when they do finally have the long awaited baby and they are less likely to acknowledge and accept any normal negative feelings. I wonder if there is a similar feeling with women who have had MC's. It has been such a long journey to get to where you are that you want everything to be perfect and worry about moaning in the usual way that all new mums do iyswim. Anyway, in amid all that rambling, what i suppose I am trying to say is, keep moaning and don't worry about it Also, please feel free to ignore all that

barbie1 · 03/05/2010 12:31

Q&A thats totally how i feel nearly wrote that the other day but was to i feel so bad for moaning and then feel quilty that everything isnt perfect like i had planned....

CurlyBigPants · 03/05/2010 13:02

monkey hope the weekend went well for you and that you are doing okay. We'll be waiting in the greenhouse with icecream and mini eggs when you get back xxx

jools are you still in NYC? Come back we miss you

dearest mermaid I am thinking of you constantly and desperately trying to keep the pompoms under control till wed I have such hope though As for staring at walls, I wouldn't give back a second of this experience. I get so tired but still wish I could keep these moments forever. I can't believe she is three months old already xxx

Barbie and Gracie I really think I'm a terrible mum some days and recently have got fixated on getting her down for naps. I always feel when she won't settle that every one is judging me and my parenting
methods. It is a relief to know we are all in the same boat. I have found that I need to take things one step at a time. The shush patting is great for settling without overstimulating her and as for a routine, the closest we get is eat play sleep. I was getting way too stressed about clock watching . They are much happier babies I think when the get lots of sleep and it makes it so much easier and fun so for now I'm focussing on not overstimulating her and getting her to sleep - even if it involves lots of lovely snuggling (curly beams because she is having a lovely snuggle right now ) barbie still laughing at your goober story. I will email you today xxx

vj thanks for your reassuring words sweetie. well done for taking such positive steps at the first signs of depression. I think in some ways we try and ignore any negative feelings because we know how blessed we are to have our babies and it feels like we should have nothing to complain about. I hope the cbt goes well for you xxx

cupcake we used to call it Paceys Creek cos he was so yum!! Stupid dawson had nothing on him total heartmelt at the thought of all your booties and that soon you will have babycakes in your arms xxx

Qa I feel I should warn you that if you decide to ttc next month, you will have the dream team of cheerleaders lurking in your bedroom cheering you on seriously though, I know it's a big decision honey so if it helps to chat through it, then we are here xxx

moon I'm so sorry to hear about the family stuff going on and it is totally understandable that you would find it difficult to be in the hospital and around gorgeous babies It all brings it back home. at cd35 (see, I can control these pompoms for a while longer. I am wishing with every bone in my body for a bfp for you As for the gorgeous curlygirl, I would love to post lots of pictures of her but I am kind of manic about privacy online and I just want to keep her off the Internet if I can for now. Could you set up a cheeky hotmail account and send to Gracie? It doesn't have to have your real name in it and we don't need a phone number, it would just mean that I could email out photos to everyone. I feel bad that you all have been so much a part of the journey but that I haven't shared a photo of her

4ever I am so excited that you have a date and that baby4ever will be with us soon. What is your birth plan? Are you considering an epidural? I've heard from a lot of sources that with an induction it is a really good idea as it can make things more painful. I have a few friends who were induced, and with an epidural were able to stay in control of the situation, listen to the midwives and above all, enjoy the experience Hope you don't think I am interfering, I just want everything to be lovely for you after all you have been through, though I'm sure whatever way you go, this will be the most wonderful day of your life xxx

louey i think you are so right about the down days being related to lack of sleep as they always follow a particularly sleepless night. I'm so praying that you and dh get to an agreement on ttc, maybe it will do no harm in the meantime not to have to focus on ovulation and enjoy some cheeky bd'ing

sabs you wonderful fit burd i am going to use you as my inspiration. How is gorgeous Saara?

blue you should write a book your posts are so beautifully scripted and so apt. They always make me smile and you've made me feel so much better about struggling sometimes xxx

lbm hope you are having a wonderful time orgaising things or just chilling

neeko it is impressive you even get time to lurk. I bet you are a wonderful mummy

big waves to iggy buddha mm baking, welcome back wave to mls and hugs to everyone I have missed but my laptop is running out of juice and I should really get up at some point happy bank holiday monday everyone xxx

oops... posting this an hour later as laptop went to sleep just as i finished

CurlyBigPants · 03/05/2010 13:09

qa x-posted but i think you really have something there... brilliant advice

commandobarbie i was going to email but as i'm miraculously getting some laptop time will post here... back in a mo after some more furious one-handed typing

Neeko · 03/05/2010 13:21

hi. lurking as I feed. Really relieved to hear it's not just me who is struggling and I think you really have something in your theory QA BTW exam marking is SG English - 400 candidates - eek!

Hi to Barbie and Curly Are your girls sleeping?

barbie1 · 03/05/2010 13:25

no!!!!! 10 min nap at most

Sabs1981 · 03/05/2010 13:35

Hey ladies another lurker here. Deciding what to do with myself today. S had only had 2 short (30 mins) naps. She usually has at least an hour or more nap each time

DH let me sleep in yesterday so it was his turn today

So ladies, shall I meet a friend for coffee or make a pineapple upside down cake? No classes today as its bank holiday

BTW curly pleeeeeease email us photo's of curlygirl

Hi neekowonderwoman with all those papers to mark

barbie loving your stories

QA I think you may be right with your theory, makes a lot of sense to me

Be back in a bit. I've got that postnatal rescue DVD from Erin O'Brien, so off to do my 15 minutes. Anyone else heard of it?

Neeko · 03/05/2010 13:48

Sabs cake wins everytime. Please save me a slice.

Barbie 10 mins?? You lucky thing you can get for a pee in that time and everything!

BlueMoon1981 · 03/05/2010 15:41

thank you to everyone for your kind words re. dfs family, i guess just one day at a time, very though. i hate seeing him so sad when i cant do a thing to help.

and today is cd 1 for me that is why i never test early, i would drive myself even more mad. i dont think it will ever be my month.

sorry, i cant stop, but you are all always in my thoughts.

Neeko · 03/05/2010 16:03

Oh Moon I'm sorry on both counts.Promise never to try to tempt you to test again as you clearly know your own body. Hope DF's relatives are ok. Huge hug.

VJay · 03/05/2010 16:39

Big big hug moon, so sorry you are having such a crappy time at the moment {{{{{hug}}}}}

barbie loving the James Bond moves . As for everything not being as you planned, that is totally normal, when you have your second, that's if you want one, you will be ready and prepared. It was a MAHOOSIVE shock to the system when I had ds1, but this time, I knew roughly what to expect and it has been a lot easier in some ways. Remember, you are not alone

QA wise words there. I was actually quite suprised that my mc's didn't tip me over the edge, but I think my full focus on TTC kept me going.

Welcome home mls glad you had a good hol. It's just your SIL, my heating is on as and when I need it, and up in the HIghlands it can be a lot

I had my lovely massage today, it was fab , when I got there I asked if I could just have my back, neck and shoulders done, as DH had booked me in for a full body and I didn't fancy that, too many wobbly bits . The masseuse(sp?) laughed and said they get that all the time, lovely hubbies booking in there ladies for stuff, but getting in wrong. Bless them

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Neeko · 03/05/2010 16:40

sabs sorry I missed your post earlier. How are you? Haven't heard of that DVD. Is it any good?

VJay · 03/05/2010 16:52

hiya neeko

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CurlyBigPants · 03/05/2010 18:29

oops.... reality stepped in before I could finish my post

sabs I'm hoping you made upside down cake! ok, I'll email some photos

vj your massage sounds wonderful but lol at your lovely dh not considering the wobbly bits. I am the same and hate the idea of an all over massage, and I hate anyone touching the bottom of my feet for some reason

neeko I am already wanting to do it again just to be more confident of what I'm doing. If I could do one thing different it would be to put her down awake after feeding. I don't even remember if she would ever have accepted this

moon I'm so sorry about stupid evil witch arriving The thing is that you and I had our second MCs the same month one year out and this time almost exactly last year myself, gracie and barbie had our last CD1 before getting pregnant - this time with a happy ending. So I wonder if this is the month for you We are due three more bfps lovely. Big hugs hang in there honey xxx

qa still laughing at you berating the other small panters for abandoning you to all this babytalk so I'm sorry to do more of it but just a quick one to barbie then i will pull out my pompoms and get back to concentrating on getting bfps which is what we are all about

barbie its such a relief to know we are going through the same stuff and also the re-assurance from everyone else on here really helps. I feel so awful when I get frustrated with curlygirl but sometimes when I'm really tired I just despair and worry about myself. I was most worried that she wasn't taking proper naps during the day and mostly sleeping while snuggling on one of us or the other.

The babywhisperer stuff is really good but like any of these things I think you take the bits that suit you and ignore the rest. First step was to follow the basic routine approx every three - four hours of eat, play, sleep, i.e. feeding her, playing till I see the first yawn or sign of stroppiness, then swaddling her (dont worry about this bit if devon hates it), then I cut out all rocking, walking, dancing etc and just sit her on my lap or shoulder and just say shuuuuuusssssssssssh loudly and slowly over and over while patting the top of her back. She always kicks off but if you watch a clock, actually stops in less than a minute. Keep going through any occasional whimpers and mini-cries till she falls asleep (the babywhisperer book suggests that you put them down once they get relaxed before they sleep but I'm just not ready to face doing this every time yet ) so I continue to shush pat for five mins and then put her in her cot or somewhere else quiet.

Apparently the rocking and dancing overstimulates so even if they fall asleep they wont stay that way. The shush pat really works with curlygirl and I've been able to put her down for two hour naps a couple of times a day. If she wakes earlier then I use it to get her back to sleep, ideally by turning her on her side in her cot, but if she kicks off too much then I pick her up and snuggle with shushpat till asleep again. She is so much happier now and less fretful

Check www.babywhispererforums.com/index.php?board=41.0 for a link to the baby whisperer forum and site.

Next stage is to work on putting her down awake all the time...eek. She's not a big fan so I'm taking it slowly. When I have tried it i find that it helps to take her for a walk in the sling or doing baby massage and then putting her down.

Hope that helps as I know all babies are different xxx

Big hugs to brave mermaid just two more days to go my love xxx

And lovely monkey let us know how you are doing xxx

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