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bluesatinsash · 06/02/2010 11:14

Let our journey together continue apace

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MummyLovesSadie · 06/03/2010 20:03

PFJ so sorry for what has happened, I'm glad you are back.

ThePFJ · 06/03/2010 23:18

After reading everything you lovely girls have said properly I have decided I will definately come back on this thread to chat and share mini-eggs with you all. I expect I'll have loads of questions, and since I want to get PG again I think this could be a good place to call home for a while?

Thank you all XXX

mermaidspurse · 07/03/2010 10:23

pfj oh my, no wonder you were in so much pain So sorry. You must be feeling a bit shellshocked, take it reaallll easy, lots of cuddles and chocolate.xx

Thanks to anyone who did me a dance cos it worked!

sabs do you think that the eczema could be linked with the teething?

4ever I reckon nearly every dh on this this thread is a little annoyed with your gorgeous hubby
Ace that you had such a fab day you deffo deserve every bit of it.

lbm yeah to your scan that is brill, your pregnancy seems (to me) to be whoshing along.x

right have to go, pancakes for bunch
hope everyone is having a nice cosy sunday especially barbie in her nest.

barbie1 · 07/03/2010 10:36

Hello

pfj so sorry you didnt get a better outcome however it's nice that you like us enough to come back and share your mini eggs (which im craving now thanks to you and cant get anywhere in dubai ) Take it easy and we are here when you are ready to talk

mermaid i hope you are still planning on seeing the doctor? Im glad af has finally turned up but what a nightmare it must of been for you....i hope you body will sort it self out soon or with a little help from the golfer

lbm ah the dreaded non placement of the heartbeat...nope it never goes away, even as i was in labour with the monitors on i still freaked out every time it dipped or shot up....and then once she was born i remember screaming that she wasnt crying that was before i asked if she was dead.....and then i asked if i was dead crazy drugs!
The birth story will be with you all shorty...its nearly done.

mls leopard converse...cool! a real yummy mummy....

Its dh first day back at work and we are done fine! We managed a lay in until 9am (after a 4 hour feeding frenzy during the night) and then i managed to get her back to sleep for a few hours in which time i have cleaned the house, done the washing, walked her to the shops and back and now im going to prepare dinner and suprise dh when he gets home at how well i have coped....Probably be another story tomorrow

xxx

mermaidspurse · 07/03/2010 10:44

you are meant to be resting young lady but I am mega impressed I can't get all that done with an 8 year old in tow

I am getting myself read for your opus, popcorn, comfy cushions, tissues.

barbie1 · 07/03/2010 10:45

blue re conflicting advice about feeding...arggghhhh where do i start???

I have a cluster feeder, she can be awake for 5-8 hours just wanting to feed on and off, she can suck for about 45 minutes and then doze off, only to wake if i move her...or she gets all angry and wants a nappy change/ winding/ cuddles etc.

I dont mind all of this, im starting to understand what it is she wants, however some times if she feeds for ages she will sleep for just as long, the longest being 7 hours non stop I have been told to wake her every three hours and feed her for half an hour only and put her down to rest (this doesnt work!) then the doctor told me if she is cluster feeding she is getting about 6 feeds in one go and therefore will sleep longer and just to leave her be.

Im finding that she sleeps better when i lie next to her...im concious of the fact that for the last 4 days she has slept in our bed. Not a habit i want her to get into (i fear i might roll over and suffercate her!) but at the same time after being up all night its the easy thing to do Some times she feeds so long that i end up falling alseep and she slips off my boob!

Do i just go with her, 2 weeks isnt very old and im sure she will settle soon or do i try and get her feeding more regular and just put up with her crying inbetween???

I wish babies came with an instruction book!

VJay · 07/03/2010 11:06

barbie I wouldn't wake her every 3 hours for a feed, that sounds very old school to me. Ajay cluster fed loads in the early weeks, I seemed to spend all afternoon and evening with him glued to by boobs, I just totally went with what he wanted. I can't remember how long it lasted but she will start to settle into a routine when she's ready. I would say if she's asleep then just leave her, she obviously needs it. It is hard work isn't it As for co sleeping, I know blue has been doing it, I did it without realising it, ie; falling asleep mid feed and waking a while later to him fast asleep next to me. I even did it last night, I brought him into bed to feed him and woke up 2 hours later, I've never done it as long as that before

Actually I have a question, Ajay is now well onto solids but has started waking every 2-3 hours during the night, should I give him a bottle of formula before he goes to bed, do you think it will settle him at all. I should know really as ds1 was bottle fed and sleeping through at 16 weeks, but because Ajay is booby fed wanted to know what you thought? Do I make any sense, I'm sooo tired

barbie1 · 07/03/2010 11:31

vjay thanks for the advice...Im going with you and my gut instinct which is to do whatever she wants and hopefully she will settle down soon. The doctor did warn us because of her size she would probably be a hungry little thing...but boy can she eat

Im also glad im not the only one to fall asleep while i should be doing mummy duties

Sorry i cant help you with your question...and sorry that you are so tired too!

mermaidspurse · 07/03/2010 12:33

yeah I agree with vjay and your instinct barbie I fed on demand and put up with all the 'advice' from everyone. So yes I got 6 months plus of being knackered but the end result was a very happy settled little chap.
She is a tiny wee thing go with how she wants to be. You sound like you are doing really, really well
I never woke ds up but then he never slept for long enough for me to even think it

vjay wasn't ajay just poorly? maybe feeling out of sorts has just taken him back to needing comfort feeds? Big growth spurt?
I think formula does knock them out, I suppose thats cos breast milk is so much easier absorbed so they need more frequent feeds.

barbie1 · 07/03/2010 12:38

Devon Nimah Farr

21/02/2010

18.14pm (Dubai time)

5lb 15oz

So I have finally given birth to a gorgeous baby girl weighing a tiny 5lb and 15oz. Still cant believes she has been inside me for the past 40 weeks and 3 days?.

On Saturday the 20th of feb, James convinced me to go and watch the 20/20 cricket at the sports stadium behind our house. I spent the full 3 and a half hours being kicked, punched, scratched and judo chopped, thankfully not by James but the wriggly little thing inside me.

James was getting excited, I on the other hand was getting tired and uncomfortable. The same thing happened while I tried to sleep so I called the labour ward to ask what to do. The midwife advised eating sweeties and drinking juice, something I would of loved to do any other time but eating a whole bag of haribo snakes at 2pm in the morning wont make anyone feel good!

After a bath and another hour of being battered I reported back to the hospital and they told me to come in for monitoring, so at 4am Sunday morning we found ourselves racing down the main road in Dubai on the way to hospital.

After being wired up for over an hour, stressing about the babies heart beat and James joking about us having to stay in we were informed that the heartbeat wasn?t ?quite? right and that we were going to be induced after eating breakfast.
Have you ever eaten breakfast knowing that in a few hours you are going to be in so much pain, probably screaming your head off and worried you might poop yourself? No? Well let me tell you it really makes even thinking about eating difficult! James wasn?t worried; he ate for the both of us

An hour later I was back in the labour room, trying to have a poo before any one came in (hoping, by doing this I wont embarrass myself later!) James had gone home to walk the dog while I was being checked in and gowned up, then was the 2 hour long wait for the doctor to arrive?.

The doctor did another sweep and the proceeded to break my waters, which didn?t hurt one bit but felt like I had wet myself! Was surprised at the amount of blood loss though, next was the three attempts to get a canular in my hand?.ouch, ouch, ouch! In the end the nurse gave up, not before giving me three huge, and painful bruises. She called someone else who finally managed to find a vein and then I was attached to the drip.

The first few hours were ok, contractions were manageable without pain relief and James was on hand to make me laugh. The only off putting thing was the heart monitor, Devon?s heartbeat kept going too high 197 at one point and then dropping way too low (97) each time it went out of the safe zone everything would alarm?. this happened at least 5 times an hour, each time my own heartbeat went way too high and freaked me out.

They decided labour wasn?t progressing fast enough so my drip was turned up from 6mls to 30mls, which made my contractions so much harder and faster. The stress bought on a migraine, with a thumping head and horrendous contractions I gave in and asked for gas and air?. Fabulous stuff, until it makes you violently sick! James was great and managed to catch it all in a kidney dish just in time.

By now I was 6cm and crying in pain, the headache and the contractions were too much to deal with at the same time so they recommended me to have an epidural?. to be honest I would of taken anything at that time.

Epidural is good, don?t let anyone tell you otherwise. It wasn?t painful to have done, although the gas and air could of helped.
With a dizzy head and numb body I was put back into bed for what feels like only a few minutes, in realality it was a few hours.

The monitors were going frantic as were the nurses and doctors, James was trying to talk to me but I couldn?t understand. The copious amounts of drugs being pumped into me put paid to that.

I did understand when a piece of paper was presented to me asking if I would sign for an emergency c section, with a shaking hand I signed and within minutes found myself in the operating theatre with my midwife screaming at the doctors that they had to get this baby out now as she was in trouble, the worse thing ever was listening to the surgeon insist that we wait five minutes until I was numb enough and the midwife saying that they didn?t have 5 minutes.

Cupcake and 4ever don?t read the next bit?.

I did feel the cut and the hands inside me, was told at antenatal that your belly would feel like a washing machine, it didn?t and it hurt. I could feel one surgeon trying to push the baby back up the birth canal, another one forcing my tummy muscle to part and then finally my doctor trying to pull the baby out. It probably didn?t last long but I do remember screaming not to let the baby die?

The next thing was DH telling me we had a girl! Que me screaming again that she wasn?t crying and must be dead! That 10 seconds felt like a life time, please be aware that most babies take some time to cry (cupcake and 4ever) I?m glad James watched one born every minute because her warned me of this, although you hardly remember facts and figures at the time!

Devon was placed on my breast after DH had cut the cord; she fed straight away and hasn?t stopped since!

I was then stitched up and bought around in the recovery room, an hour later I was in my hospital room feeding Devon and marvelling at how far we had come. The journey was a long, hard, painful one but we got there.

As you all know I had 4 days in hospital and had dreadful side effects but with help of strong drugs, fab nurses and a fantastic husband we got through it all?By the way I think pethedine is a great drug! I?m wish I could buy some! It helped me get through the pain of the first night.

You really don?t worry about anything while giving birth, the poo issue dint even cross my mind and I know that I weed myself during the labour! Even being given a painkilling pessary in front of DH for the three days following surgery didn?t faze me; I just looked at the baby and knew everything was ok?

There is more, endless injections, heart monitors and countless number of tablets and catheter bags but I wont bore you all with that!

VJay · 07/03/2010 13:06

Oh barbie I'm sat here crying, what happened to you is amazing in many ways, well done to you. I just can't believe you felt the c section. but like your say your beautiful wee girl is here and that is all that matters

mermaid just been talking to dh about it and he said the same as you, he's just getting over his cold. I'm going to hold off the formula for now because we are away next weekend and don't want the hassle of bottles etc.

Off to blow my nose and wipe my tears.

BlueMoon1981 · 07/03/2010 15:10
4everhopeful · 07/03/2010 17:56

Oh Barbie!!! I also shed several tears! Felt like I was there with you! What an amazing experience but soooo worth it all in the end! Bless you for the 'don't read next bit' parts! 'One Born..' is useful for that very reason! Wow girl, so proud of you! x x x x x

PFJ Im so sorry to hear about your very traumatic experience. Cant imagine how painful an ectopic must be, and to lose a tube, you poor soul, come back when you are ready for hugs & mini eggs & tons of ttc advice xxxxx

Mermaid what headf** your body is playing on you! 3 BFNs?! Bet you didnt know where you were, sorry have not been around or lurking, feel so bad to of not been there for hugs & hairstrokes.. At least the old witch has turned up now so you know where you're at, but time for the barbiemobile and a trip to the golf course - THIS WEEK! x x x x x

Waves to Vjay and Moonthelurker,gladyoustillare!

Am unwinding and stuck to sofa on DH instructions as I said, had to post when lurked via phone & blubbed at Barbies birth story though! So, back tomorrow - lotsa love all x x x x x

MummyLovesSadie · 07/03/2010 19:40

Barbie that was some story. It's so scary isn't it when they tell you that your baby is in danger unless it comes out imminently? When the midwife told me that I pushed for England & Scotland I can tell you! I hope you are enjoying life as a threesome.

Moon don't stay away too long. How are you? Are you on 2ww?

PFJ I've thought about you lots this weekend, how are you doing now?

Vjay maybe the problem is that ajay is stuffed with food & is not taking much milk at his last feed? Maybe you could express & give him it from the bottle last thing at night to see how much he's taking?

Neeko you must be exhausted & mentally mangled after the funeral yesterday & the christening today, not to mention your dd being so ill. Is she any better now?

Mermaid hope you are going to get hold of your consultant this week.

I've had a mental day but I'm not sure if I've felt as knackered as I have done recently - should I be worried??? Been up on the roof, banging masonry nails in the walls, weeding, pruning, re-potting, cooking a roast & generally working my arse off. My acupuncturist has had to cancel my appointment for tomorrow as she has a virus. Feeling a bit stressed about that as my next scan is on Wednesday & I really could have done with the reassurance from her that everything is as it should be. I can feel doubt starting to creep into the cracks of my armour.

MummyLovesSadie · 07/03/2010 19:41

Forgot to wave to 4ever, hope your ankles are a more normal size.

GracieGirl · 07/03/2010 19:44

Just a very quick lurk.

Moon glad you're still around.

Waves to mermaid. PFJ I'm so sorry, please come back whenever you are ready, to rant, to chat or just to lurk.

Barbie thank you for sharing your story with us.

I had a completely pointless trip to Mothercare today. Loaded Isabelle, pram (and the 10 tonnes of other rubbish we can't go anywhere without these days) into the car, drove to Mothercare, walked in the front doors, Isabelle filled her nappy, changed nappy, Isabelle starts screaming the place down, sat baby changing area and started breastfeeding, fed for 25 minutes, finished feeding, the shop closed. Didn't actually get chance to look at or buy anything! Is everyone else that rubbish at predicting when their newborn will want to feed???

GracieGirl · 07/03/2010 19:46

MLS sorry cross post. - Remember - your bean doesn't need a scan until wednesday! Big hugs and hair strokes. xx

BlueMoon1981 · 07/03/2010 19:56

mls not yet, operation bd is commencing, on cd 10

hi and welcome to pfj, so sorry to hear your sad story, the girls here are all so lovely you will fit right in (i am not strictly here by the way, i am supposed to be having a little break...)

why cant i stay away from this place i just need to know you are all ok, i'm so torn between preserving my own sanity and keeping a check on you all that i dont know what to do for the best... sometimes i love hearing your stories, other days i just cant read them because i'm so its been 9 months since mc no2, why is it taking so long to get pregnant again? i'm starting to think i will never be a mummy

MummyLovesSadie · 07/03/2010 20:39

Moon you WILL be a Mummy. I know it all seems so unattainable right now & all you want to do is stamp your feet & scream & shout "WHEN"? I wish I knew the answer. Apart from the obvious, are you doing anything to try & maximise your chances every month such s preseed?

Neeko · 07/03/2010 21:08

Hi all.

PFJ really sorry to hear what you've been through. Please come back to us when you're ready and we'll hold your hands through the times ahead.

Moon Exactly what MLS said - it will happen. Are you in full battle mode yet or still not quite ready to go there?

MLS thanks for being so lovely and checking up on me over the past few days. The christening made a nice end to the recent stress and sadness and DD is eating (though not properly). I'm keeping her off nursery tomorrow though and possibly Tuesday as chickenpox are doing the rounds and her immune system is low.
I know you're freaking bout the lack of accu but your baby is fine. Remember last year the 1st MC made you more tired, not less and you are almost into big pant mode so the tiredness should be waning as you begin to 'Bloom'.

Vjay I agree with Mermaid, give Ajay a week or so to settle if you can and if he's still waking then try some formula.

Mermaid Glad you're no longer but PLEEEEASE go find that golfer!

Barbie That's quite a birth story and a very impressive 1st day on your own. Don't try to be superwoman though - my biggest regret with DD is that I tried to prove to the world how good I was at coping when I should have just been marvelling at how perfect her fingernails/toes/ears etc were.

LBM I have a code somewhere for 10% off the close baby carrier if you want to buy a new one? Glad the trainee found the hb. I hold my breath everytime.

Iggy woke in the middle of the night worrying that I may have offended you by assuming you were going to bf when I was talking about bras If so, no offence made.

Cupcake hope you've been truly pampered this weekend and haven't had to fight to get your own hands on your bump.

4ever Glad you had a lovely birthday - you lucky girl.

I have finally posted some bump pics if anyone is interested.

Neeko · 07/03/2010 21:10

Sorry Gracie Forgot to say your Mothercare story really did make me . it does get easier, I promise. One day you'll even manage out for 9am - yes, really!

bluesatinsash · 07/03/2010 21:44

Hey everyone,

PFJ - so sorry to hear your news. We're all here when you feel like posting again. Give your DS a big cuddle, it does help .

Barbie - big lump in throat reading your birth story, thanks for sharing and more imporatnyl being able to write it down with a 2-week old in hand! Yes none of us think we're going to end up with emergency c-section, but it does happen and the end result is sooo worth it. They could have taken both my boys out via my nose for all I cared in the end .

re: cluster feeding/co-sleeping etc. I wouldn't wake Devon as she is taking so much during her cluster feeds. If she was only feeding for 5-10 mins then I would say wake her but she is getting plenty mummy milk so just go with the flow (pardon the pun). Ben has co-sleeped with me since the second night home . DH is in guest room for now but it won't be forever and I just felt it best for us all. Ben because he was close to me and has milk on tap, DS1 because he isn't woken by us either trying to settle B in carrycot or woken by him crying during the night and DH because he can get a good nights sleep and take a load off me every day especially looking after DS1.

They do adjust and settle. Ben is now 10-weeks and has been in his cot in his room for over a week for all naps and the first part of his night sleep (7-10pm). I take himin with me when I go to bed.

Just do what feels right and natural, they are tiny for such a short time and will be in their own rooms eventually . Well done you for housework etc. but please don't feel you have to be alpha mummy every day OK?

Vjay - I hope Ajay is just feeling a little hungry after his lurgy. I know when DS1 went onto the bottle and sleeping through the night (also at 16 weeks like your DS1!) I made a rule never to feed him again if he woke during the night so would just re-settle him. but I didn't have to take illnes sinto account - its a tricky one and yes breast milk is so much quicker to digest. I honestly think Ben will stil be feeding cpoious times during the night at 16 weeks .

Neeko - loving your bouncing and knitting photo - multi-tasking a go-go . Your DD is very cute is she Woody or Jessie?!

MLS - big hand hold for your wobbles, only natural especially as you don't have your acup session but please hang in there, all other signs look good x

Gracie - I have so been there (fed B in back of car after yelling at DH to pull over as he wouldn't last until we got home). It does get easier and Isabelle will get more predictable. There's always Mothercare online!

Moon - hey you, glad you're still lurking x

Mermaid - hope you enjoyed your pancakes and AF finally showed up. did you read MLS's link re: fibroids?

Night All x

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Neeko · 07/03/2010 21:49

Hi Bluethechirpyone DD is Jesse. She also has a Buzz costume and will only answer to their names when she's got them on!
I gave DD formula at 16 weeks to (one bottle) and that's when she started sleeping through. 16 weeks must be some sort of breaking point.

iggypiggy · 08/03/2010 10:05

morning all!

barbie thanks for sharing your birth story! It sounded v. dramatic - but the end result is excellent!

neeko don't even vaguely worry about offending me by saying that - I didn't even think about it! Am def planning to BF - with boobs this size it would be criminal not to!

mermaid glad AF finally showed up. Hope you ok?

lbm I know what you mean about being informed, but I have been watching Portland Babies on TV rather than one born every minute... as it is more relevant to me - and seems nice and calm there

PFJ sorry sorry you joining us at such a sad time - I hope you are looking after yourself and that you will come back and talk to us whenever you want to. xx

vjay like the pic with the mini eggs

blue you sound v. cheery!

gracie What a shame about your mothercare trip! Can imagine is so hard to predict when will be a good time to leave the house!

4ever your DH sounds like he really spoilt you on your b'day so glad you had a good time and love the presents you got.

moon lovely to see you briefly. Hope you ok.

Also thinking of jools and baking xx

I am fine, got just over a week until my next scan - which is the anomaly one.. am not thinking about it at the mo... I favour the head in the sand approach in general! I start my pre-natal yoga classes tonight, which am looking forward to!

4everhopeful · 08/03/2010 11:26

Hey Iggs cant believe your anomaly is next week already! I did a series link on Portland babies too after we had our treatment there! Our lovely miracle man is on it Dr Armstrong! It does look lovely in the birth rooms with the double beds for DH to stay too! Alas our funds only went as far as our treatment! Luckily our local is a massive university hospital which takes alot of referrals from round the UK and they are great, so am quite happy there (tho a double bed for me & DH & flatscreen TV would be nice!)

Barbie Im still emotional now about your birth story! I keep replaying the bit where you freaked when she didnt cry, I know Ill be the same! Bless your lovely Dh too! I think you are really brave considering how scared you were, and you seem to be coping brilliantly, so proud and happy for you sweetheart

Mermaid you got the wellys on for your trip to the golf course?

Gracie your text sooooooooo made me laugh! BF is worth doing for that reason alone! I know Ill be just like you when it comes to my first outings, thank god for online shopping!

Cupcake whens the big move day? Hows the packing going? Hope you had a nice time at your parents with all your siblings!

LBM how are you my preg buddy? Im always in a panic when they try & find HB too! Have ante natal on thurs so will be just the same! Think they do bloods again this time round?

Blue your advice is invaluable you brilliant yummy mummy! You too Vjay! Im so glad we have you 2 on here! Big hugs and waves, and tickles and kisses to the boys!

All yummy mummy saggy pant ladies - Sabs, Curly, Annie, Buddha, Lion and the rest of you lovelies, pop in to say hi soon please!

Neeko hope you are resting today after an emotional and no doubt draining weekend, hope DD better now too?

MLS sorry to hear you are wobbling, bound to have moments though, not long til next scan, yu seem to be whizzing through!

Moon pop back soon hon, I know its crap taking so long ttc, remember it took me & Curly 8 or 9 months too, it will happen again when your body is ready, and it will be soon. In some ways its only like yesterday that I found the draw of this thread so hard too, full of & at some points, but cared so much I HAD to keep in with things.. Your time is soon sweetie...

Also very much thinking of Jools and Baking - throwing babydust by the handful out into the ether!

Worrying about Monkey now too? Is she on FB? Anyone that knows please do some stalking investigating to ease our worried minds?

PFJ hope you are resting up and going easy on yourself you poor soul...

Big waves to anyone Ive missed, Ive just drafted this in an e-mail while sitting at my desk.. Had a real heart in mouth moment just now, went loo & there was spotting, after the longest few seconds ever, I worked out it was from the back, not the 'front'.. Same thing happened on sat night, but that was the outside of my bits cos of my sore thrush! Honestly, what a headf** scary time! Was more paniced today, cos had just sent an e-mail to my manager with my multitude of upcoming apts, last time I did that was the day before my last MC, as I pressed send, it took me right back, and made me very weeble like, then I go loo and that happens! Now Im having twinges & panicing, tho bubs is doing acrobatics to try & reassure me! Wobbly wobbly weeble!