The BESH 30s TTC thread in the world EVER - 2010

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C'mon girls, this is the year. We will form a circle and concentrate hard on diffment.

Meanwhile, David and Jenson have popped the corks and are pouring out the Bellinis. Truckle of stilton anyone?

having a fucking howler of a day
need to inflict violence on someone in cyberland before a ACKSHERLY clonk someones heads together

soz, just needed to offload

would some nekkid mud-wresting help, sal?

Yeah for sure! Lead me to it.....

Did someone say BUMSEX

Right, I've filled the pit of despair with good quality muck. (Left the men in there for added fun) Now we've just got to strip off and jump on, though, we really should finish our drinks first

I'm pretty sure this will lure the others out from wherever they are hiding.

Ooooooh, luverly!

Evening ladies.

AM now reading TCOYF, and something she said struck me, which is that stress can delay ovulation - do you reckon that could be what is wrong with me and my stupidly long cycles. I am pretty hectic at work; the only thing which counters that is that is has been like that since I came of the pill in June, so not as if I am all over the place, cycle-wise, it is all v regular.

I can't fucking well keep up with you lot, you talk too much. stop please.

cos there's been about four posts on here all day...

sorry medee. I haven't a clue. But stress can't be good, either way.

it's only been really stressed this last month, and my cycle has been 42 days since June, so not sure it stacks up as a theory.. Unless I have been stressed without realising it.

curls yeah but I've not been on since Sunday!

furry muff then

No bumsex for me. I'm too pissed.

Think that tends to help honey

Scorps know what you mean about pretentious, but anything with Hugh Jackman is worth watching in my book. I mean I thought Australia and X-men were good as well, so take no notice.

Girls, I'm a bit worried. Having had 1 month on the CBFM, it appears that my luteal phase is a mere blip of 9 days. Which is pafetic and not helpful to baybee making.

Is it troo that 9 days not enuff to baybee make?

Curly you ole lush, that means I'll need to get off the sofa .

My puppy did 2 poos outside today. He is a genius. Even if I never have an ickle baybee, I luv him.

I'm quite enjoying talking to myself. I must be pished.

I don't know, drunk in charge of a puppy, talking to herself... and this woman wants a baybeee? tut.

Start as you mean to go on say I. Husband and dog asleep. Hogging laptop and wine bottle. Not sure this is a good idea for baybee making, but o' fuck it.

From the great wisdom of 15 cycles and no baybee:

medee pop to the gps and ask them about long cycles. A day 21 test will tell you if you're ovulating. If there is anything unusual about your cycle, then temping & cbfm won't help that much - they're both slightly predicated on the 'normal' ie non-existent woman.

moocow it's only your first month using the cbfm. It won't understand your cycle properly.

See earlier discussions about the satanic nature of these devices. They just make everything horrible. I have temped and personaed and all they did was make me mad(der).

Rant over. Apols. I do understand the need to take control, I just wish someone had told me that temping etc was a bad idea!

STEP AWAY FROM THE THERMOMETERS, LADEEZ. VERY BAD IDEA!!

Temping nearly sent me completely bonkers. All it did was prove my temps are up & down like a whore's drawers, & I never sleep uninterrupted. Thankfully the batteries in thermometer ran out whilst on hols in Thailand, couldn't be arsed to try & find more, my thai being severely limited (ie non existent). And its been a relaxed revelation every since.

I've never temped because a)I've got PCOS, so cycles not "normal", b) I never sleep uninterrupted, and c) I can't be arsed. Only thing thermometer has ever been used for was to reassure Him Outdoors that he didn't have pigflu (it was merely flu of the man variety).

Medee, I know my situation not the same as yours because of my PCOS, but when I first came off the pill my cyles were anything from 42-70 days for the first year. Then 29-42 the next year. And now, finally, my last 7 cycles have been 27-31. What I'm trying to get at, in a round about way, is that although people say "the pill leaves your system very quickly", my experience is that is can take a long time for your body to re-learn what to do without it!

I wasn't TTC for those first 2 years, so didn't do anything about it, but if it turns out you aren't ovulating then there are ways to make it happen. As humpy says, get your day 21 bloods done. Although with a long cycle, you might need have them done later than that, to see if you ovulate later. My gynae got me to have bloods taken on days 21, 24, 27 etc to try to "catch" ovulation.

I've been stressed about one thing and another the entire time (usually about my dad) and I can't see the impact of that. I think that when doctors first noticed the impact of stress on the menstrual cycle, they were talking about war/famine/disease, and we have possibly rather extrapolated that! Women all over the world get updiffed in what I would consider massively stressful circumstances...but I may well be wrong on this one, interested to hear what others think.

I've said this before and will say again, because no two people are the same. Temping can work - but use with caution and do not "flog a dead horse", so to speak.

Temping will not make sense until/unless you have a consistent cycle length - even if these cycles are far from what is considered "normal". If you have regular cycles but your temps are still wonky, throw away the thermometer.

However, temping did eventually work for me. After months of very disheartening, abstract art-looking charts, I finally had a normal cycle. I learned how to adjust my temp in the event that I got up earlier or slept in later (adding and taking away 0.5 degrees for every half-hour). It all fell into place. I had a temp spike after ov on day 14, and my temps stayed high beyond Day 28 - telling me we had finally achieved success. (I did have to ignore a couple of random drops/highs, which could make you panic). You only need three hours uninterrupted sleep. If you wake at 5 when you're due to temp at 7, you can just take the reading then and adjust. Basically you have to be willing to faff with it a bit!

Each to their own I think - ov sticks were very counter-productive for me. Made me feel like a failure when i could never get a line.

Said my piece, take from it what you will. Now I will bugger off.