The BESH 30s TTC thread in the world EVER - 2010

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C'mon girls, this is the year. We will form a circle and concentrate hard on diffment.

Meanwhile, David and Jenson have popped the corks and are pouring out the Bellinis. Truckle of stilton anyone?

It was more some fucker telling me,in a public place while I was WORKING that the reason I am not pregnant (having gleaned that we were maybe not having easy time so having already reached the Point of ShutTheFuckUp)....

Hang on,ranting so much I lost meself there...oh yeah,the reason why I'm not pg is cos I'm too fuckng skinny and if I ate more (she has no idea what I eat of course) it would be fine.

As I mentioned,it was great fun.

Thanks scorp, mahoosive larsson fan obviously
MrsG - hell that's rough.

Awww shucks,
Fanks Twinks and Dr Scorpy
I will be forwarding your re-write post-haste to the eccentric, insensitive boot.

Welcome Salander

X post sorry
Ta,la to everyone else for violence/shock/sympathy

I'm ok, feeling shit today more than yesterday and hopefully not as much as tomorrow.

I'm still in my PJ's too Scorp I need a fag and must venture out to buy some.

Gin Ahh! The wisdom of stangers, Did you cock drop her for her trouble?

Aaaargh...sorry to hear about the evil R2D2 Scorps & Cam...what a fucking fucker. It's extra gutting when you think you might have made it this time.

Now after you are in the midst of the hideous driod misery, remember, you are not at the end of your last cycle, but at the beginning of your next cycle, so now is the time that icklebaybeejesus is sprinkling wots of wittle babydust into your ovaries...so take a few deep breaths, adopt a beatific, inscrutable smile; and envision your ovaries as soft downy pillows of purple silk, ready to receive the ovum that is destined to be your baybee. Make no sudden movements for the next two weeks; simply glide daintily around the house, amid lots of scented candles and bubble baths. You may also want to sing the 'my lily is precious' song from Nighty Night. (okay, I know that the boiler's just blown up, the dog's shat on the carpet and the bailiffs are banging on the door, but do it anyway!)

I realise that this is a variation on 'pray to baby jebus' and relaxandit'llhappen, but I have added a new age spin to it, that has the underlying implication that we BESHies are simply failing to 'open ourselves up' to having a baybee, and to put out the right 'energies' ...as you can probably tell, I have been surfing some particularly vom-inducing talkboards recently...is it rubbing off on me?

Fuck me, Mrs G! Six you are a proper fucking trooper and no mistake . Did your consultant say WHY he thought you would be successful - would he put you on new meds or some kind of treatment?

MrsConservatory What Cho said.

Apart from the New Age bollocks, Cho. S'riously, wtf? (Oh, alright, I've been pissing about with fertility yoga for AAAAGES, but that's just because I like any form of exercise that ends with a nice lie-down) (Honest).

Gin Can you go and ask your nice sympathetic GP what the risks and shit post-ectopic are? Would s/he have access to your hospital records? Or can't these things be discussed by a non-specialist type?

shit gazza no wonder you drink gin by the buckload, sorry to hear that. Here, have another

sal what does 30=ish mean? Hope you're not actually 25 and prentending to be all old and hag-like...

Tell me about yourself

No, i really am 30, just turned it a few months ago. Honest, casper, take the truth drugs away i'll talk! Me n bloke been trying for ages, fuck all happening. Usual chat from all medicos, ah well you are yoooouuuung, reeeelax and it will fucking happen. Just what you wanna hear. Got another GP appt tomorrow actually to demand some blood tests. Joy. Remortgaged house to pay for all sticks to pee on!

I likey MrsConservatory!
Are you sittin' comfortably, then I'll begin...
I have very high NK cells. Natural Killer (Discovered after 5th MC)
NK cells are nice really,and we all have them in our wombles but cos I'm more speshul than most I have more.
Their job is to protect our wombles against nasty stuff.
Boo for me,cos mine seem to think they're super dooper and protect against everyfink including ikkle newly implanted Gazzabeings and gang up on the poor things.
I opted to take part in a randomised control trial of Prednisolone (steriod) against placebo for the prevention of recurrent MC.
As I had to keep a diary and report back every two weeks to crazy lady Consultant,she was preety sure I was on the hard drugs (Yeaah!)
We got a heart beat at 5.5 weeks 1st time(yeah!)
We got growth and a stronger HB at 7.5 weeks (yeah! again)
Loopy lady shouldn't have told us that we'd be fine (hence scan pic)
10 weeks no heart beat

The quandry I'm in is that she was convinced I was on the drugs and is sticking to that.
Which even though we got futher than ever before still doesn't leave me with much hope Ya get me?
She thinks that the drugs did their job and held those pesky cells at bay and our Cleatus' heart stopped due to a chromosome abnormality.
She requested "products" to be sent to cytogenetics?!
She also helpfully informed us that it was perfect as was the placenta.
As I was on the trial I'm deffo gonna be given the hard stuff next time but that still doesn't fill me with confidence.

Pheww! That's enough ranting from me.
So, there you have it! Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

On the plus side I've had some interesting gunkage happening already,so once I've caught up with the wagon and jumped back on throwing the fags&Booze over the side, it's game on !

I has POASed just so people can stop trying to fill me with 'could still be updiffed when spotting' hope.

I didn't realise a devil-stick could actually laugh out loud. The answer, as if anyone needs to ask, was a NO.

When I FINALLY got dressed about an hour ago, I looked in the mirror and stroked my vile flabby tum like it was a pg bump and then laid face-down in my pillow crying. I probably do require some violence after all.

I still haven't gone to Tesco. My 3 giant facial lumps (Rod, Jane & Freddy) are just to heinous for me to even look at, never mind try to conceal and I feel so about babyfail that I don't want to leave the house (whenever I feel low I can't bear the thought of other people seeing me. Stoopid, I know). Also, it's a bit of a chavvy branch, so no classy baybees to steal there, so what's the point?

Scorps I'm really, really sorry to hear that. I thought this was your month. You for sure deserve a baybee, isn't there a Waitrose near you?

I very much like the names you've given your buboes.

Awww Scorps I'm sorry.
Can I offer a Kirby kiss in your direction.
Burn the stick, phone a taxi and get him to go to Tescos.
What do you need?
Get your man to bleedin' get it, it's partially his fault anyway.

MrsG arse bollocks about the 6... that is hardcore shiz

Not sure if this will help... but I is on annuva fred (I know I know...) where someone did have 4 angelbaybees before discovering that they were attacking them from within... She is currently 20 weeks... was combo of drugs (inc. cyclcogest) want me to point you to fred where it explains the shiz she had?

Scorps don't spoze it helps one bit to keep hearing it but god, so sorry.

combine the advice of Beshy and Conservatory - get a taxi to Waitrose stat.

Oh hellz bellz though. Just shitting crap, that's all. Hope you get to do nothing all month on a silken cushion brewing eggy-peggies.

sal you must cry at your doctor. especially if it's a man.

gaz Interesting. Sounds like an auto-immune condition (overactive immune system, in the wrong places). I have one such condition (rheum arthritis) and took prednisoline for about 6 years. You're only supposed to be on it for two. When they eventually weaned me off I noticed no difference, better or worse, in my condition (except my teenage acne returned, I lost my steroid induced moonface, and my hair and nails stopped growing super quickly). But my RA has never been as bad since then as it was before my six-year steroid overdose, so maybe it does work.

Worth a try and you certainly deserve all they are willing to give. Do you take any prednis before conception, or will they not hand it over till they know you are diffed?

Words fail me MrsConservatory

Well, they don't, I'm the biggest gobshite on here, but you know what I mean. That is some massive shitulence to deal with. How are you still relatively sane?! I think you must insist that you're told if you defo were on the proper drucks, because that's a bit of a headfuck. Her saying she's 'convinced' isn't enough - hassle the twats till they give in (AKA 'The Scorpette Method'). And if you were on 'em, perhaps you just weren't on them long enough to keep the NKs* at bay for the length of a pregnancy? Or you needed a stronger dose? Have you asked her any of this? I guess you can only cling onto the fact that with this new factor you've gone further than before - which does suggest that (eventually - eek!) you will reach the finish line And if Cleatus' heart was buggered due to a chromosomal whatsit, then that could mean that the prednisilone did work for you but you had the nightmare of scenario of the foetus coincidentally having a prob, totally unrelated to your NK ishoos. That is a cunt, but could well mean that with the new drucks, another Cleatus The Foetus, without any coincidental problems, could go the distance.

BTW, you calling your ickleangelbaybee 'Cleatus' made me howl with laughter. I will have to call my own future BOC 'Cleatus The Foetus' in your honour (although all foetuses are female [nerd emoticon] to start off with).

I feel a right twat for moaning on about a bit of spotting after reading your woes. But we all need a little wallow now and then, right? (For me, 'now and then' means 'approximately every 45 mins' but heyho.)

*I shall never look at a Space NK in the same way again.

At the risk of being gunned/knifed/slapped/kicked/shouted down by scorps, can sticks be trusted when not combined with FMU?

If it is truly a no, then I am sorry. I shall line up a baby thieving session from one of the posh country estates over this way, then you can both satisfy your need for a child and save one littel dahling from a life of hunting, shooting, fishing, tweed-wearing, cocaine snorting, maid-shagging and general Rah-Rah-ness. Might be a bit of a thicko though, with all that blue-blood....

Iggy yeah sure, anything!
Bit concerned
A. Maybe ANOTHER prob ontop of NK cells and B. Bleedin' consultant only gives a damn about trial and not our actual long term goal of making a whole Baybee.
So,cheers, point away.
(and thanks)

Thankee my loves, but Waitrose is about 25 mins away; am not getting a taxi when I can actually see the neon 'TESCO' sign from the 2nd bedroom window if I lean over enough [lazy]. And when I barely have enough spare ££ to order new POKs from eBay. Will get TYF to go for me. After he has cycled home in the cold after 9 hours doing a job he doesn't enjoy. I'm such a cunt

MrsConservataory I cannae find the technical bits - so am gonna ask her and see if she can pop on here and tell you her story maybe? Am remembering it is NK cells tho... Or make a fred about it or summink... would be useful for people to have the info..

Cassie, we're not monsters , we only want attractive, clever middle-class babies, not thick, in-bred poshos. The sort of kid I was at primary school: arguing with the teacher about her spelling of 'onomatopoeia' (I was right, she was wrong).
I wonder why I was bullied for being a swot?

MrsG, hadn't heard of NK cells, so googled em. The articles I looked at said that IVIg infusions can help 80% of women with this prob to have successful updiffs and that you should also get your thyroid checked. Not meaning to be patronising, but are these things your consultant/GP have discussed with you? Hope you're not thinking 'well, DURR, course I know all this you daft bitch'

Curly they didn't give it me till I was diffed, it was for 12 weeks (took the last one today)
Another trial they did,Laydees were given it before and they discovered that it made them unable to conceive!
I'll give it another go and hope as Consultant said it was "bad luck"

Scorps as it was a double blind trail she couldn't know 100% if it was the drug as it would effect what she said to the next person but still felt the need to share.
My Doc can find out and is on the case.
You're right about the headfuck and if it was chromosomal balls up fingas crossed yeah,if Cleatus mark 2 has a decent ticker and the right amount of x's& y's we'll be sailing.
Oh and wallow away woman!
No twatage seen here.
You're intilted as much as the rest of us.