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TTC after a Miscarriage - A Fresh New Start

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Diddle · 04/07/2005 18:09

Here we go, another new thread for us to fill with our highs and lows.

Lets start off with a good dusting of babydust, think all the rest we had has washed off in the rain

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CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 20/07/2005 11:53

Morning all

Just PSML at the boobs tale spub.The things we do when we are drunk,eh.

Once a friend and I were having a few bottles of wine.....We had ABBA on the cd player and we were singing along. We thought we sounded pretty good and as one ofus was blonde and the other dark we reckoned we were the dogs [email protected] said friends dh had just bought a home video kit and we set it up on the coffee table and performed all ABBAs songs,one by one.Then we forgot about it....

Weeks later friends dh shouted to her in the kitchen "What the hell is this?" Playing with camera he came across footage...I went around to watch and it was cringe making.Before each song started we would straighten our hair and clothes and we sang each and every no with such passion.AGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Had to bribe her dh to wipe it off as he threatended to show everyone.

I cany even blame it on youth,it was about 5 years ago

Waiting for 1st internet buy to arrive,10 pregnancy kits. Said can use 7-10 days after event so reckon could start using tomorrow..

excited......

spub · 20/07/2005 11:59

CP- Love the ABBA confession. I saw MAma Mia in Feb and it was abbatastic.
Maybe your testing theme song should be "Waterloo"??

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 20/07/2005 12:07

Going shopping and wont go near Boots,no need to,tests aplenty on the way!!

Spk later
x

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Diddle · 20/07/2005 12:52

have fun shopping CP - was it your b'day yesterday????

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cori · 20/07/2005 13:41

HI guys.
hope everyone is doing well. Holding up til test date. I am about 7DPO at the moment, have some early pregnancy tests but think I have to wait a couple of more days. I am a little bit worried, I have not been well the past couple of days, have had a fever, feel sick etc. I am worried now that if I do get pregnant this cycle I might have another miscarriage. I have read that fever in early pregnancy can lead to miscarriage. ARRGGGHHH.
I just know whenever I do get pregnant I am going to be such a mess with worry. I am desperate to have another baby, am desperate for DS to have a little brother or sister. But tbh I am petrified.
DOes any one else feel like this.?

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Diddle · 20/07/2005 13:52

YES!!!!

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Diddle · 20/07/2005 13:55

It is very worrying, i think for a fever to cause miscarriage it would have to be very high, but they do recommend you try and stay cool. Which you could do, wear loose clothes, shorts/skirt if you have to and drink plenty of fluids, you should be fine.
It is totally normal to be worried, i will be scared to death, I was wth my 2nd pg after the 1st m/c and was gutted when i lost that one too.
But it must have happened for a reason. There is more chance of the cause being something like an abnormality than you having a fever.
stay as positive as you can, i know its tough.

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cori · 20/07/2005 14:03

I might not even be pregnant this month so could be worrying over nothing, but what do you think is a very high fever? My fever has got up 39 C. I dont feel to bad at the moment. Have been taking paracetemol so it is coming down.

spub · 20/07/2005 14:03

ooooooh yes. (and not in a When Harry met Sally kind of a way, KWIM?)

cori · 20/07/2005 14:10

am off to find out about fevers in early pregnancy, just to make myself even more paranoid. Humph..

spub · 20/07/2005 14:17

Cori- did a quick search for you. Hope this helps. Hugs.

Maternal fever in early pregnancy not associated with fetal death
For immediate release - previously published online October 22 2002
Danish authors of a study in this week's issue of THE LANCET provide reassurance to pregnant women--maternal fever in the early stages of pregnancy is probably not a risk factor for miscarriage or stillbirth.
Increased maternal body temperature can cause fetal death in some animals, which has lead to the suspicion that maternal fever early in pregnancy (when embryonic development is at a critical stage) could have a similar effect in the human population.

Anne-Marie Nybo Andersen and colleagues from the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Statens Serum Institut, Copenhagen, and the University of Copenhagen, interviewed around 24,000 women who were recruited in the first half of pregnancy to the Danish National Birth Cohort Study. The investigators obtained information on the number of fever incidents during the first 16 weeks of pregnancy. For each fever episode, the highest measured body temperature, duration, and gestational age were recorded.

Around 5% of pregnancies resulted in miscarriage or stillbirth, and just under 20% of pregnant women had one or more fever episodes in the first 16 weeks of pregnancy. However, there was no association between maternal fever early in pregnancy and adverse fetal outcome--a finding that was consistent irrespective of measured maximum temperature, duration and number of fever incidents, or the gestational time of the fever incident, and was observed for fetal death in all three trimesters of pregnancy.

In an accompanying Commentary (p 1526), Kenneth Lyons Jones from the University of California San Diego, USA, concludes: "Because of the substantial barriers associated with the study of spontaneous abortion or fetal death, it is hard to imagine a feasible prospective study design that would be superior to that by Andersen and colleagues in addressing the risk associated with maternal fever. However, it is difficult to categorically conclude from this study, as do the investigators, that pregnant women need not fear a fetal death following an episode of fever."

cori · 20/07/2005 14:31

Thanks Spub, I found that same article. It is a relief to know that fever DOESNT cause fetal death. One less thing to worry about.

spub · 20/07/2005 14:34

It's such a pisser this miscarriage malarkey.
I feel as if my "innocence" about being pregnant is gone and though I worried a bit when pregnany with my dd I really think I had no idea...
I'm desperate to get pregnant again but am also bricking it.
We'll all help each other through whatever the next few weeks bring.

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Diddle · 20/07/2005 14:44

it is a pisser spub - we have decided this time if an when we do get pg that we're not telling anyone, we're keeping it to ourselves for as long as we can, not even telling parents. because we don't want to get our own or anyone elses hopes up. So horrile that we will never have that really happy feeling about it ever again.

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LunarSea · 20/07/2005 14:47

And there's me panicing the other way because my normal temps seem too low. Have just been flicking through ff charts and can't find any where the base temperature seems to be as low as mine (consistent 35.2 +/- 0.1 pre OV). Anyone know if low temps are significant?

spub · 20/07/2005 15:07

Diddle - I know what you mean about keeping it quiet. Thank God we can blab to each other.

strike1 · 20/07/2005 15:34

Sorry lunasea, I'm useless with temps. No idea what it all means!
Know what you mean about losing the innocence of pregnacy though Spub. I was so excited at the prospect of being pregnant again last night, then I woke up in the night and started remembering all the misery that happened last time, and it changed everything I think we'll be keeping it quiet if it happens again as well....apart from you lot of course. It's so good to have a place to be open about all this with out worrying about what to say if it goes wrong. Ahhhh gee love you guys

cori · 20/07/2005 16:37

i dont know if low temps are significant when TTC. But DH and DS have temps like this.

Next time I definetly wont be telling DS until I am at least 6 months. He still asks from time to time if the baby has come back

Tabs · 20/07/2005 16:51

Lunarsea - I don't think the absolute temperature matters at all, as long as you are getting a clear and sustained rise after ov.

Very entertaining stories today ladies. I will share one from my university days, when I was far from being the saint that I am now.

A friend and I were at a friday night 'bop' run by the uni, and had partaken in a few beverages of the alcholic kind, when we decided that it was a dull night and we would go home. We had to pass a police station on our way, and as we went past we saw flashing lights (disco kind, not nee-naw kind!) and heard music playing, so figured they must have a party going on. Well it seemed a good idea to gatecrash, so up we stumbled to the door, just as 2 policemen were coming out. They told us who's party it was (was a retirement do), so in we marched, up to the bar and got free drinks because we mentioned the guy who was hosting the party!

We then met 2 rather nice policemen, who thought we were winding them up when we said that we had gatecrashed, and insisted that we must be the daughters of one of the other police officers! Anyway, when my friend and I nipped off to the loo, we discovered that I fancied the one that she was talking to, and she fancied the one that I was talking to, so we came out of the loo and promptly swapped!!

We ended up taking them home, and the rest of the story I will leave to your imaginiations, but sadly they didn't have any handcuffs on them .

BarefootMama · 20/07/2005 17:15

with regard to maternal fever /miscarriage - I read somewhere of a close link between mother using aspirin/ibuprofen in early preganacy and subsequent m/c. This said i went to my doc ( folling m/c) and said I had a really bad sore throat what could i use ( when early pg this time) he said aspirin/ibuprofen. needless to say i read up on it and did not........

maddyd · 20/07/2005 17:24

I had a temp when i lost mine it was the nurse that picked up on it not me. It was prob more to do with me being upset and loosing the baby though

HellKat · 20/07/2005 19:05

Love someof drunken escapades girls!
My mooning episode was just the once. Decided (tanked up first obviously) that it would be bloody hilarious to moon cars. It was'nt at all, felt very self concious instead. Now streaking..... that's more fun . Did it once and by christ I never knew I could that fast!!! (was'nt starkers though, noooo way, undies and bra job). .
Really not looking foward to giving up tomorrow I do actually like it! But has to be done.

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 20/07/2005 19:13

Yes it was my Birthday yesterday Diddle.38.Aghhh

It is v frightening ttc after a loss. All the innocence of pg has been taken away. I always thought that once you get past the 12wk mark everything is ok. Now if I get to the 25 week I will be worried it will all happen again.I too had a temp when I went in to be scanned just before Philippa had died but I am sure that I felt ok before (hard to tell cos i usually feel pretty awful when pg) and I am sure the temp was due to the fact that she had died a few days earlier and that had an effect on my system.

I know that with dd I was ill most of the time,v sick,on drip in hosp,lost two stone and fell at 6 months shattering wrist bones and requiring surgery (whilst awake.......)so if dd could survive all that then I dont think a high temp can cause any damage.I think its a case of what will be will be and thats a huge gamble for us all to take.But it IS worth out just to hold that lovely little bundle for the first time and thank god we gave each other for support

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Diddle · 20/07/2005 19:34

chocolatepeanut - filling up just reading you message. I can't wait to be holding my first baby. I want it sooo much.
Happy birthday again for yesterday, not like me to forget. sorry.

Hellkat - will be thinking of you tomorrow, crikey thursday has come quick hasn't it. You've done lots of flesh revealing haven't you

Tabs - nice story, i bet you were in your element with a room full of men in uniform.

Cori, don't stress about the high fever thing, everyone is different, and theres a good chance that the people who did have a temp was probably to do with what they were going through, rather than it being the cause. You'll be fine, and fingers crossed that you get your bfp this month.

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petunia · 20/07/2005 20:40

Evening all, hope everyone's well.
Not posted for a few days, been doing some loooooong hours at work.
Well, 5 wks after mc I think my AF arrived this morning. I say think because it seems light to what I'm used to. Still, I suppose it's a sign the body's getting back to normal.
Been having a good laugh about all your drunken exploits! Mooning and gatecrashing parties. I've never done anything like that. What a sheltered life I've had!