Emmsy's weebles continue to grow.. Onwards & upwards

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Come on over, its cosy now mermaid has bought the throws and insulated the greenhouse

Oooh oooh oooh huge congrats to both our latest graduates

I love both of those names - in fact they will be on my list !!

Right, off to the GP to talk about depression - with a big grin on my face now

Back later and will update our list if nobody else has by then

Congratulations to Buddha and Annie

Ooooh, see this is what happens when I take my eye of the thread for a while. And I must apologise for just how long it has been since I last posted - I hope you accept my excuse though (sleeping in my arms just now!). I do lurk to keep tabs on you all!

Anyway CONGRATULATIONS to Buddha and annie, such fab news and really fab names. Ewan was a top three contender for our little one . Hope you are all resting up and recovering now - and getting lots of lovely snuggles with those gorgeous small-boys

And while I'm at it I must send lots of hugs to Vjay and Sabs and their little ones. I've seen your posted pictures and they are both yummy.

So pleased to hear everyone elses news too, especially 4ever - I've been following your journey with all it's highs and lows with baited breath. Glad things are going so well

Just having read back over the thread for the past few days there has been some really heartfelt stuff posted. Very tearful to read, but very warm and fuzzy too to hear that this thread continues to be such good support for so many different situations. Sending my thoughts to moon, jules and MLS. Wanted to remember VillageMum too in case she still lurks.

Part of the reason I don't post so much is that I am aware of the mix of feelings here and the hurt that too much baby talk might cause. As others have pointed out (much more eloquently than I can ever hope to) although we appear to have moved on, we all also carry around our personal sadness that is somehow undiminished.

If you want to read my quick update - we have reached 8 weeks and Arlo is a bouncing baby monster. We had him weighed yesterday at 13.5 pounds . He feeds voraciously and doesn't sleep at night so I am pretty shattered. He has been suffering from colic too, but a couple of visits to a cranial osteopath seem to be helping. His big sister is very proud of him, but she hasn't yet worked out just how delicate babies are - even hulking great ones like him .

Just a quick post but congratulations to buddha and again to annie I am soooo happy for yoy guys!!

annie also had to have an emergency c-section which she was quite upset about. She only got to 8cms but brave lady only used the tens machine!

Also wanted to to give a big hug to the small/commando panters.

Have had a busy week. Went to see the football a couple of nights ago, and out for dinner last night. Its Eid (we have 2 eids in a year) tomorrow so been busy baking - is Saara's first Eid which is quite exciting!

WIll be back soon

FANTASTIC NEWS AND CONGRATUATLIONS ANNIE . Neeko forwarded me your txt, Ellis Charles is absolutely gorgeous and what a lovely name . Dying to hear if you managed a VBAC....

Hi Lionstar - lovely to hear from you and wowser you have a big boy there . Hope the colic is easing...

4ever love, hope your appointment is going well, I've got your number so will txt you later with mine

MLS - hope you get some answers at your appointments too and definately push for additional inviestgations if need be. Hope you manage another bd this month just for good measure

Time to update the list (I'm next - eeeek!)

Commando/small pants
MLS
Mermaid
hoping
jools
bakingqueen
Bluemoon
gingermumi

Medium pants
iggypiggy BFP 12th Nov
littlebellsmum BFP 11th Oct
4ever BFP 22nd Sept
cupcake BFP 11th Sept

Big pants
Bluesatinsash due 18/12/09
mm1509 due 05/01/10
GracieGirl due 06/02/10
Curly due 07/02/10
BarbieBigPants due 20/02/10
Neeko due 23/03/10
MrsKate due 05/04/2010

Saggy Pants
VJay 01/09/2009 BOY! ALEXANDER JAMES 8lb 6oz
Lionstar 27/09/2009 BOY! ARLO BRYN 9lb 5oz
Sabs 30/09/09 GIRL! SAARA 9lb
Buddhabelly 25/11/09 BOY! EWAN
Annie 25/11/09 BOY! ELLIS CHARLES 8lb 11oz

V quick message ( in meting) - Congrats annie wonderful news. Rest well, you did well brave lady!

melt melt melt at Annie's newborn piccie If anyone hasn't received it, let me know and I'll forward it on

Good to hear from you Lionstar - had been wondering how you were getting on Can we see a new piccie of the big boy ?

Strangely enough, once people have actually given birth, I don't feel any sadness or - just like to hear about babies

whoooopppppppieeeeeeeee

So much good news lately, ive been lurking be too tired to post, however i needed to say my congratulations to the 2 new mummies, fab names too ladies

I felt a little guilty reading back as it seems i was one of the ones who posted a baby related question just after mls reached out in her saddness, in my defense i did post from work and did get to see the previous post but it made me feel a little bad.

Tbh its hard for us too as well as the small panters, we are all so cautious of not hurting anyones feeling that we all hold back in some way. I for one try to direct my 'baby' questions else where as not to fill this thread with so much baby talk, but at the same time you ladies have a wealth of experience that i sure could do with! What to do eh?!

I would like to say though even at this stage of my pregnancy not once have i forgotten about the place i was before, nor forgotten about the pain, heartache and everything else that comes with mc. I will honestly never ever forget about any of you ladies, whether you choose to continue the journey with us, or decided to take a break or leave after having the babies we all so much deserve. Each of you holds a very special place in my heart and without all of you the darkest days i have endured would of seemed so much darker and longer.

Just keep being honest with one another and im sure this thread is big enough to accomadate us all!

curly i was thinking about you the other day, wondering where you had got too as well as gg im all alone in the feb section! Sorry you feel crap, i can honestly say i know how you feel!

I wont post to you all but im thinking about you and its nice to see some updates from our resident mummies

Speak soon xxx

annie
well done and lovely lovely photo xxxxxx

buddha hope you are ok too.

lion hello you tired mum! cranial oseoteo thing I cant spell sounds interesting for croup, glad you are doing well though x

Wooohooo for Annie, well done to you. Loved the pic - thanks Neeko for sending it to me.

Barbie please don't feel bad on my account. I know it can be difficult to know what to write on this thread when you are pregnant & at the back of your mind you are thinking how it sounds to the small panters, but us small panters WILL get pregnant again. We WILL get there & then we'll be the ones writing excitedly about bumps & kicks & all the rest of it.

I really hope that as each of you pops, you stay on this thread like the saggy panters have done so far. We all need to stick together right to the end and beyond.

right girls - am gonna search for threads, but I stupidly forgot to ask the GP - they've put me on Citalopram - what are the implications of taking that and TTC ?

well jools honey i have found a finnish study that reckoned ity is ok and if the Fins say that I reckon I would feel fairly happy.

for jools hope this gives you some answers?

whoops ignore that, i posted the wrong link

i have about 10 pages opening in my quest to help you!

mumsnet discussion for you

19.54 post on that thread might reassure you

Just had news from MIL, the guy was found quilty for gbh with intent, min of four years to be decided and sentenced in Jan 2010..... im glad he will go to prison but nothing will give her the sight in her eye back

Huge congratulations annie, I too am loving the name Ellis. Hope you are ok and not too sore

blue you are wanting a boys name beginning with a vowel and so far all the boys names have been, so there's 4 for you

barbie glad justice has been done on this man, hope it helps your mil a little

Big waves to lion, nice to 'see' you

Got no sleep last night as Ajay has my cold, we are both so tired but he won't sleep so I can't either.

Right of on the school -run- stagger now

Hey ladies, still beaming for Annie and Buddha cant believe both on same day! I felt like a birthing partner & it was a real honour & priviledge!

MN is not letting me look at prev pages I cant catch up with you all like I want.. Duno if my old dial up or gremlins at MNHQ...? So big waves to you all & will catch up later, maybe another day! I am shattered, this has been a bit of a week considering Im used to my cotton wool wrap dress & bootees & sofa/bed combo... Just back from ante natal apt which was 10am, waited 2&ahalfhours [exhausted face] to be seen for 20mins by registrar as consultant on an 'emergency'! Bonus was that I saw our sonographer & asked if I could be squeezed in for a quick scan while we waited so got to see bubba again I woke in the night in sheer panic as today Im 12w6d & thats how far I was when lost no3 it measured 80mm & I stared panicing that on mon scan was only 65mm. Hoped it would of shown a big growth spurt but today bubba was sleeping curled up & despite lots of prodding & rubbing by both sonographer & myself she said the angles were funny for a CRL & only got 69mm but reassured me all was fine Trying to take her & DH word for it as he is precision engineer so was trying to reassure me how that can happen! Anyway back on mon so hopefully will have had big growth spurt & be awake flailing & stretching.. (pray/cross fingers/beg all powers that be..) This is last danger zone for me before Im in unchartered waters for first time ever & the anxiety is pretty immense..

Think its cos as said, have had hectic week & a few Barbiesque tales to boot! Last fri ventured to sainsburys with DH to pick up xmas extras & gift wrap etc & I didnt like it at all, felt very vulnerable & fuzzy headed & just wanted to get out of there, got a bit ratty & slammed car door in car park, whilst driving home opened electric window & window fell out of socket & down into door got in a right state & resulted in mad dash to garage for quick repair job & a total of 80quid to fix once got part etc!
Despite all that on mon after scan ventured to m&s when dh went back to work for more xmas bits, exhausted me completely & spent a couple of hours at mums too, most active Iv been..
On tues I had the HR frosty pants visit & as said harrowingly relived the whole trauma of last 2yrs for 2hrs which was emotionally & physically draining, then SIL 'popped in' to borrow choc fountain for nieces b/day yest but stayed for another 2hrs, Id practically lost my voice by tues evening!
Yesterday we ventured out to nieces party for a couple of hours, also draining & SIL friend decided to share the tale of her mate who had 15mc (great just what you want to hear ) her & MIL seemed to delight in tales of doom, glad to get home.. then nan & aunt on pho for 2hrs.. Poor DH doing lates so home at 5pm then back out from 7pm til 8pm so manic evenings..
Today was the apt to infinity! I was so knackered getting up this morning that a'la barbie after putting bleach in the loo while I ran the bath I then proceeded to put my bubble bath down the loo as well!!!
Tomorrow its 12yrs since my brother died so will be going to cemetary with my mum & also picking her an xmas tree from homebase, picking up DH with the shopping, then its back to my cotton wool wrap dress & sofa/bed.. Cant bloody wait!!!

With all of that Im spending spare minutes worrying that Iv undone all the bedrest & good growing & development time of recent weeks All Id been doing was going for scans & that was it, oh well time will tell & in the meantime Ill just keep on praying!

So sorry for the giant waffle, anyone else would think Im mad moaning about that being 'alot of exertion' just needed to get off my chest... Im hoping I can actually read back properly next time I get on & I will post to you all individually but in the meantime.... Love ya lots & hugs for those that need them, sorry am bit useless at the mo... xxxxxxxxxx

Hi Ladies,

Not posted for a while but still been having a lurk so you are all never to far from my thoughts.

Huge congrats to buddha and annie, I love that they are both the same day and love both the names girls. I had a few tears when I heard buddha's news it just seems such a long journey we have been on and how we were feeling this time last year and now thinking of her holding her perfect little boy............oh I'm away again .

4ever I have been reading your good news and loving every moment, so happy for you and DH, you both deserve this sooo much. Love the stories from this week, I guess we all have some barbiesque moments from time to time.

barbie glad your MIL case is being sorted out now sadly like you say it won't bring her sight back, hopefully she will get some closure from this.

blue glad baby blue is behaving his/herself now, fingers crossed you may even be able to have a VBAC, looks like your next.

curly just to let you know that at 34 weeks I am still being sick so can totally relate to how you are feeling. Still having to take meds but got it down to one tablet a day which is basically keeping me out of hospital, you are not alone.

jools I am glad that you are getting some help my lovely, you have been so brave throughout and I hope that whatever the outcome you will be at peace. FWIW I took a break ttc for about 6 months before this preg and I think it was the best thing I could have done, yes physically but even more so emotionally. Sounds like you are finding the old jools again, take time and have some fun again, you so deserve it.

MLS, moon, it's been so sad reading your posts, sad because we can relate to them totally. I know I am probably just repeating what some of the other girls have said but please do remember that we can never forget the dark days we all had. I think that's why I was in tears hearing about buddha's news, I remember the sheer desperation we were feeling this time last year and not knowing what the future would hold for us..........and now look at her. In two weeks it is the 2nd anniversary of my 1st mc, little did I know the painful journey I was just starting on. I only got through this down to the girls on the emmsys thread and I hope we can still continue help you. Even this time when we were ttc I was fully expecting to go on and have another mc, but we had always said we would give it one more try and didn't want to look back when it was too late full of regrets. Well here I am with less than 5 weeks to go before my lo arrives so there is hope, even when it all seems gone. I do believe it's hard seeing us posting about our pregnancies but I hope we remind you there is still light, especially from us who have had multiple mc's.

Well a quick update from me, lo is lying breech so booked in for c-section on 30th Dec, there is still a chance it might turn but had some complications having DD so opting for a c-section either way, just want to get this lo out safely now. Been putting off getting the baby's room ready but this weekend it has to happen, guess we have still been scared to tempt fate even at this stage. Will try and post more often but life is just so hectic right now, lots of family stuff going on atm so I have been preoccupied lately but hopefully things are beginning to sort themselves out now.

Anyway been on here too long so need to go now but big hellos to everyone I haven't mentioned in person, I haven't forgotten about you all, will catch up next time , take care ladies xxx.

congratulations annie such lovely things happening this week, and as much i might feel sorry for myself, the happiness is nothing but genuine for all you ladies on here

Nice to see u mm sorry u are still feeling rough but wow only 5wks to go! You & blue are an inspiration & much needed hope to us multiple mc'ers... Iv been a real wobbly mess since last night, nearly posted at 3am as wide awake in sheer panic.. Dont kno if cos this my danger day & maybe combined with bro anniversary as said freakin about bein same day as furthest i got, & if anything scan not helped cos baby wasnt movin & same position & measurement as mon more or less so have worked myself into a real state, despite sonographer tryin to reassure shit scared & major panic if im honest.. Worried i overdone it this week.. Just cant take the idea of anything going wrong i love this baby & want this so so badly im just scared but praying with all my might..

Good morning girls
Just so so pleased about all the good news and can't believe they ended up being on the same day!
Huge congrats annie, and I love the name - I remember we talked about it before - it was on mine and dh's list but then his cousin named her ds that so it's struck off! Feel quite emotional about you having your baby cos yours was the first BFP when I joined this thread ...seems to have gone so quickly yet so slowly too.

Also loving how all this good news is bringing out some old faces.. hi scorpio and mm and lion so lovely to hear from you all

4ever don't worry yourself so much my lovely. A few trips out aren't going to harm your lo and they all grow at different rates. The important thing is that that little heartbeat was still going strong yesterday. In the last 2 weeks I have run for countles buses and trains & just worried myself sick about what it could do to baby but we need to relax a bit! (And maybe be on time for public transport) huge hugs on your bro anniversary oh and also at Christmas stuff...I still haven't bought a thing!!

blue with this uneven boy:girl ratio I think you will be giving us another niece

Couldn't get my 16wk appointment til 17+1 so won't be joining big panters just yet...boo.
My Mum has given us our first baby pressie though- tiny little booties with penguins on them; adorable but just doesn't feel real that we're going tohave something small enough to fit into those!

I had a heartfelt email from that girl at my old work who just miscarried..such sad words about how she keeps crying and everything, I could have written it 8 months ago. Gonna go reply to her now and hopefully direct her to mn!

Huge waves to everyone on this smily day

Thank you Cupcake you lovely lady! x DH kept saying the main thing is that little heart was beating, & we saw the ribs & stomuch which we've not before & today Im 13wks so officially the furthest Iv been, but roll on Monday still.. Also massive thanks to Mermaid for your lovely tx & being so supportive as ever this morning (remember we are here for you too!) xx As I said to Mermaid I think for me, the weebleness is over emphasised by just being shattered & that adds to anxiety quite unhealthily for me..

As I also said the build up to anniversarys is always worse & all the & frustration that goes with it, but last night I had some quite symbolic dreams where random objects were swinging about & it was a 'sign' from my bro I woke up feeling quite peaceful & calm & the day itself usually passes in the same way, tho not looking forward to the cemetary but there is a sense of peace when we get there... So wish DH had got to meet him, they'd of loved each other..

Apologies for the lack of personal posts but do alos wanna echo Cupcake at how lovely it was to see posts from MM Scorpio and Lion . Also glad to see justice done for your MIL attacker Barbie so cruel & sad.. Also hoping that Curly is hangin in there, so pity you hon, & also Neeko hope DH is bearing up & preparations etc not to harrowing...

Back to the good things, still rejoicing for Annie MrAnnie and baby Ellis , but poor Buddha & MrBuddha going through it a bit - had an update from her this morning, hence this post, & will copy what was said:

'Thought Id better let you know know it could be a while before I can put pics of Ewan on or post. Ewan is in SCUBU due to poss infection & breathing difficulties, also I had a spinal puncture when epidural was done so have to stay in longer. No access to MN at all so if u could let people know Im not ignoring them & send them my love much appreciated..'

Poor soul, i replied not to worry about any of us(!) that everyone sends there love, what a worry it must be & that I didnt realise how early she was til list was updated so sure some probs quite common but no doubt a worry, also said that when went to hosp chapel to pray for our LO before apt yesterday I also said a prayer for both Ewan & Ellis & shall continue to do so...

Anyway, wasnt intending to post, so had better get on as picking mum up for cemetary at 1pm & not had brekkie yet or anything, or done my morning cyclogest pessarie yet & I need to lay down horizontal for an hour afterwards if you get my drift!

congrats to buddha and Annie