Just MC'd. Starting it all again.. Come and join me for the long haul, vol 2

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Hardly the most original title but I didn't want to loose anyone (well that's my excuse for the lack of originality!)

Actually ov was CD19, not 26, but still five days later than normal.

meita, my experience with post mmc ov was similar to apples. Well, first of all, anovulatory for 3-4 months, them finally ov late at cd 18-20. Watch out though, the next month it snuck up on me day 10-12! Almost missed it not wanting to waste a stick that early! Good luck and hang in there!
yay boodle, also hope the talk goes well and it's smooth sailing on the ttc ship.
Glad that things are back to normal for you tigerbear, it sure is a relief to be able to ttc again. (for the most part )
I went to purchase CBFM this summer, but it was something like $250 and the $40 for a month of sticks - steep - but still tempting . Hope it's productive and fun!
Well, off to work !

the CBFM has arrived - I have hidden it under my desk and will start tomorrow morning, it was not so bad on amazon - stil £60 plus sticks are £12 pcm, but I figure its worth it to help narrow the window and optimise shagging opportunities!

feeling abit better today - probably less hormonal and less heavy - my periods have been crazy since ds and more so since mc 2 days where it all seems to fall out (sorry if tmi) and then light bleed for 2 days, as oppose to 5 days medium flow, makes the first 2 days grim but its over faster.

hope everone doing well today

Hello zayja and Cheepz. Cheepz - let us know how you get on with the CBFM- am very intrigued as to how those things work...

Has anyone heard how Chamois is doing? Hope she's OK and the bleed was just a blip and nothing more, fingers tightly crossed.

Cheepz Glad you got your CBFM and hope that it brings you the results we all crave! I've found Amazon is the cheapest (most reliable) place to get the sticks from. Get dipping! I am quite skilled at peeing in toothpaste pump lid (an old one I hasten to add) now, TMI!

Meita Any more updates on your CM? Has it become even more friendly and fertile like? Hope so....

Hope everyone else is well

I know - I was worrying about chamo tis afternoon. fingers crossed everythings fine.

also wondering how boodles talk went with dh

am all set to start monitoring tomorrow, it has given me somethnig else to focus on which should have some novelty factor for the next 2 months to keep me motivated!

dh out tonight so have been watching crap tv all night ... bliss!!

Does anyone have any views of the cheap pregnancy and ovulation tests on amazon? The ones called "ultra early". How reliable are they?

Thanks everyone for being so nice, sharing your ovulation troubles and thinking of me!

CM is the same as yesterday - not perfect but much improved from before. OPK still all negative though, and temp low. So anything could still happen. (Which means I've got to assume I might be fertile. This is starting to be a bit dreary (is that a word?))

chamo thinking of you. Take care honey!

tigger I myself have only used ovulation tests since last cycle (which was anovulatory) so don't have much personal experience - yet to see a BFP on such a test. Have heard though that cheapy tests from e-bay are supposed to be fine. Have heard to stear clear from the mid-stream cheepies, and go for the dippy cheepies instead. But honestly, that's all hear-say.
Having cheepies does make me more relaxed about using them. Going with CB would cost me a fortune!
Early pg tests can create huge discussions all by themselves .

Does anyone know why i had ewcm 3 days post Ovulation, i understand it can happen about a week after, but 3 days ?? I dont usually notice it very much so cant use it as a sign of Ov. This has just thrown me a bit?? Anyone ever had this?, This is my first month of OV since Mc on 30th april. I def did Ov 3 days prior .. Thanks anyone..

Hey bubba, sorry to hear about your MC and that it took you so long to just ovulate again

As I understand, it is possible to get EWCM at any time post ovulation, although it is not common. I quite often had fertile looking CM a few days after the temp surge. Maybe the "week" is more of a threshold - as in, you can get fertile looking CM up to a week after ovulation? I read somewhere that it happens because sometimes your body continues producing small amounts of estrogen.

How did you determine that you ovulated? By OPK? Or by temp surge?

In any case, don't let your CM drive you mad. You've ovulated, the CM is now irrelevant. You may now go and find other pet worries to occupy you in your 2ww ;-)

Fingers crossed!

Hi,
We are about to TTC after MC earlier this month, have been told to wait for period after MC. Does anyone have any idea on how long this normally takes. Not planning to use ovulation kits or anything just try the wait the and see method. Do you think it is okay to try and again so soon, I'm finding it difficult to know how to feel about it all, don't want to seem as though I've just forgotton about MC'd baby but don't want to leave it too long either.

hey guys...

talk did NOT go well....DH says that he would feel more comfortable waiting until after christmas to try again. I have decided that i will deny him sex until he relents....[hhmmm]

i really don't like the idea of actively trying to prevent a pregnancy by using barriers (condoms....frickin hate them!)it seems so totally against what we are trying to acheive....he'll cave, some may say 'emotional blackmail' but i say 'using all available weapons in the arsenal....'

really hope Chamo is ok....

just finished toni weschlers book - really interesting. have ordered basal body temperature thing but really think that CM is the way forward. i will really monitor it. she gives really clear pictures of the different types of CM in the book (gross to normal people i am sure but TOTAL fascination for the likes of us!) Also this meditation i am doing nightly (female fertility enhancer) is realllllly chilling me out...would definitely recomment it to you ladies.....

It also said that the CM has to be really good quality in this book for the sperm to swim through. I got pregnant the month that i used the PRESEED which makes the best swimming envirnment....will be using again for the next time to supplement my CM. Just a thought for any of you that haven;t tried it so far....

Hi growingbump2, I am sorry to hear about your MC. Glad that you found your way here though - this is a really supportive bunch of people here!
I'd say most of us started TTC immediately after our MCs, without waiting for the first period. And some of us indeed became pregnant immediately! For me this was an important way of looking forward, rather than dwelling on the MC. Though it also meant that I became totally confused by my body and the fertility symptoms and in the end, we missed my fertile "window" (and unfortunately I haven't ovulated since). It also meant I had invested high hopes in that cycle, I felt the world would end if I didn't become pg immediately again; so there was all that to deal with when AF arrived.
Most of the time, there is no medical reason for waiting. Doctors just say to wait because otherwise it will be harder for them to date your new pregnancy. At the end of the day it is up to you to decide what it means for you emotionally. Will it help you look forward? Are you ready for giving your thoughts and hopes to a new bean? Can you deal with the WTF-ness that often occurs in the number 0 cycle after MC? Not knowing if your period is overdue or if you just ovulated late or not at all, can be distressing!
In any case, good luck! And stick around if you need some support going through this tough time.

boodle hah that sounds like the right spirit!

How about a compromise: You don't use condoms, but you both agree to NOT count days, chart temps, observe CM, use OPKs or anything. Sort of as a middle way - letting it happen, not stopping it from happening - but not actively working towards it either. Don't know if that's possible though - checking CM has become second nature to me by now

I've been thinking about preseed. My CM is often less than ideal. But the thought totally turns me off... and I DID manage to get pg before without this sort of help. I guess I'll wait to see if ovulation sorts itself out before I tread that path.

Glad to "read" you sounding so upbeat!

meita - that was what i actually suggested {altho of course in reality i would be checking at the very least CM but i said no charting or temps.....}he still said no..... i don't really want to bully him toooo much....poor man.

i found that preseed made everything so much less stressful actually....i didn't have to worry about the quality of my CM or the quantity and stopped me drying up due to the pressure i was putting on myself to conceive each time...quick squirt of clear odourless liquid via an applicator pretty much like a long thin syringe....didn't fall out or anything or feel synthetic....warmed straight up infact.....but enough now, people will start thinking i am a preseed rep ha ha

Hi ladies,

I haven't posted on here more or less since my BFP as it felt like tempting fate a bit, especially with some of the bad news on the grads thread but I have been lurking and following all your news so thought I would check back in again and say Hi.

Is great that you have had some more BFP's and as someone pointed out the grad list is now longer than the TTC list so hang in there, it will happen for all of you one way or another.

I am 11 weeks today and have first midwife appointment next week so that is a real milestone and then scan the following week as I don't want to believe it is real until I see a heartbeat on the screen.

I can support boodles recommendation of preseed - after she recommended it last time I ordered it but didn't get round to using it that month and got pregnant anyway - it is powerful stuff and can work without being taken out of the packet!!

growingbump - my m/c was my first pregnancy so I waited a full cycle before trying again, partly as meita said so that I had an idea of where I was in terms of cycles, but for me I think I needed that bit of time to come to terms with the baby I lost and get my head straight before trying again. Everyone is different though so you have to do what feels right for you.

Hope you are all well and don't mind me dropping back in after so many weeks

Hi all

Sorry for the absence but been office based this week and struggled to get on Mumsnet (most unfair of work!)

Watched Marley & Me last night. Dry eyed throughout the missed miscarriage bit (sorry if that's a spoiler) and only blubbed when the dog died. I took that as a sign that I was feeling better

But metia, I completely share your frustration at how much harder TTC seems to be post miscarriage. Our bodies obviously don't know that we are meant to have a fertile uplift I think I've had 3 anovulatory cycles out of 4. The focus on next month feeling is getting a bit worn out....

I'm hoping the preseed has the same effect as becky78. It's lurking in my drawer waiting for next month. Lovely to hear back from you becky78 - can't believe you're 11 weeks already.

Cheeps - I'm another Clearblue monitor user here. You might get loads of highs in your first cycle with no peak. Just to warn you as it did my head in.

Boodle - what's your meditation [nosy emoticon needed]? I like your negotiation approach with DH!

Chamois - hope you're OK? Please pop in and let us know.

hello
have lurked a bit, but thought I should say hi (was moved by TFLS's recounting her Marley and Me experience - I also watched it recently and cried at most of it !)

I had a MMC at a scan at 12+6 at end of August, baby had died at 11+6. I am lucky enough to have a DS of nearly 17 months, and fell pregnant in cycle one of TTC#2 once he turned 1.
But at 41 time is not on my side...

TTC#2 cycle 1 after MMC UCL 26-28 CD 26

(but am not convinced I have ovulated this month - no usual signs ....)

tigerbear saw you said you woke in a bloodbath and AF had arrived so have put you at bottom of list but not sure what CD you are on

jollster welcome and so sorry, MMC at that stage must have been devastating [heartgoingout] have popped you on the list - you never know at CD26 - stranger things have happened and a number of folks have come on in their WTF cycle post MC and gotten a BFP right away glad you stopped lurking though

and welcome bubba and growing too

I set my CBFM this morning so that was exciting! am expecting to do first sample on CD6 so will have to see how it goes

becky78 11 weeks already - wow - does not seem like that long, everything crossed for your scan

tfls [bigmassivevirtualhug] know so much how you feel, before mc its kind of fun ttc for a few months, but I think once you have had mc you want so much to be pg again it changes everything, the anxiety, the pressure, wondering if its a health issue or a fertility issue - its really tough xxxxx

loving your work boodle, love the idea of not really trying, like thats ever going to happen has he said what he is worried about, perhaps he is worried about something happening to you after the last time, he might just be scared for you physically and emotionally.... i say nip down to Ann Summers and get something saucy - I am contemplating the Brittany Spears style Air Hostess outfit

heres the list

Wednesday list:

Apples TTC#3 UCL 28 cycle 1 CD29
Jollster TTC#2 UCL 26-28 cycle 1 after MMC CD 26
TFLS TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD25
Meita TTC#1 UCL 30-45 cycle 2 CD23
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL 28 cycle 6 CD20
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 4 CD18
Zayja TTC#1 UCL 24-27 cycle 6 CD14
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 1 CD11
boodleboot TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD7
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 3 CD4
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD?

WTTC
LeeWT
Justbeenforapromenade

MIA (stopped at CD60)
em22 TTC#? UCL 28 cycle 3 CD60
trixel TTC#3 UCL 28-35 cycle 7 CD60

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
Stressy BFP 22nd August
becky78 BFP 4th September
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September
VivCliquot BFP 10th September
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September
Chamois BFP 7th October
MrsRigby BFP 11th October

meita I knew i had OV from my CBFM and surge, they were spot on in timing together. Thanks for that info on the cm, i rarely notice aything like that so im crap on any of that info..
It was soo good to see that 3bars and egg thing again after so long
Maybe i am with a chance this month ?? But then theres the holding on to the little darling that seems to be a bit more difficult

boodle ah, I had sort of thought as much. I hope you manage to find a solution that works for both of you. Yes, will definitely consider preseed once I start ovulating again.

becky so good to hear from you. 11 weeks already, it seems nearly impossible! Wishing you all the best for that scan next week. Do let us know how it goes, please?

tfls chin up. We'll get there.

Jollster welcome. People have been graduating from here so fast, it is a good place to be well, would be preferable obviously not to be here. Sounds like you have been having a rough time. So very sorry for your loss.

cheepz good luck with the CBFM!

bubbalewy I can imagine the thrill of knowing you're ovulating after such a long time! Did you go hunt DH/DP immediately? That's what I'd do! Hey, you never know, it could indeed be the month for you. "Just" because you lost one, does not mean that you are going to lose another. Although it can be hard to feel excited - MC does make us lose our "innocence" in these things. (As has been said by many on here before)

me well DP had to leave for Berlin until Sunday on very short notice (got a call yesterday afternoon, left this morning). He did call me up to ask if it was ok for him to leave. What should I have said? It's a great opportunity for him. Well. I'm telling myself, if I start ovulating now, a) I'll know I'm ovulating again, and b) who knows, I might just jump on a plane and follow him over . And if I don't (ovulate), which I think is more likely, it's no harm done. So now I'm sitting here a bit indecisively, not knowing if I should hope I ovulate or hope I don't. Arrgh, life is complicated...

Hi everyone,

I think today is preg test day for me. Gosh.,,, I wonder if I could possibly have any test sticks in the house..

good luck apples!

No signs of anything happening here, but no plans to test until at least after the weekend. Fairly sure it's a pointless exercise, as don't think I ovulated this month..... but where oh where is that witch...?

sending babydust your way apples.....good luck....xx

can hardly post for tears....my fcking useless exH has just rang to tell me that him and girlfriend are having baby. She is nearly 13 weeks....same as what i would of been if not for EP ITS NOT FAIR. ITS NOT FCKING FAIR....

So irresponsible of them, he hasn't paid maintenance for the last 5 months and has no job at the moment, to the point where we have had to drop the kids to him as he has no insurance on the car....and his thoughts on it all are 'well at least the kids are going to have a new bro or sis after all....'. Tosser. ITS NOT FAIR.

i give up.