TTC - Clomid Part 3

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Follow on from the old thread for people trying to conceive using fertility treatments.

This is the link for the old thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/740296-TTC-Clomid-Thread-Part-2?pg=40

Just popping on so this is in my 'I'm on' bit. [waves hello then disappears back to work]

hi just popping on also.
I agree that like Fairy the service locally is rubbish!
Devon I too am an "older mum" had DD at 37 with clomid and have been trying over a year and now on 3rd cycle of clomid which up to now is unsuccessful. It is fact that fertilily declines after the age of 35 and more rapidly so after 40. We really need to push for further investigations/tests/treatments as time is of the essence (sp!)

Hi Attila,

I am under a specialist but it's much easier to get hold of the GP than the specialist. We are at the biggest unit locally!

I'm gonna do as they asked & have my blood test on day 21 & give them a few days to get back to me.

Big hugs Clure! I'm sure we'll get there soon!!!!

Baby dust to you all *

hi all, will read old thread and catch up 2moro night have been away and am shattered. hope everyone is ok.

attila- quick question been told my next step is injections but wasnt told what of. is it still clomid and will i have to go to the outpatient's.

also anyone know anything about getting some good follicle development? was scanned a bit too early so having another on wed. the consultant told me not to be dishearted. i did not take too kindly to being that

will do a proper post 2moro. xxx

paddington

Hope you had a nice holiday.

These are a different type of drug treatment altogether to clomid. Now for the science bit (the following is taken from the fertility care leaflet on PCOS given to me at the time by the hospital subfertility unit I attended).

The most common injections involve a group of hormones known as gonadotrophins which are derived from human urine. Human menopausal gonadotrophins (hMG) contain both FSH and LH activities whilst "purified" FSH preparations only contain tiny amounts of LH.
All of these products work equally well in women with PCOS. Hoever, because the polycystic ovary contains many small cysts (which are in effect follicles) the ovary is very sensitive to stimulation by these hormones. In view of this, courses of treatment begin with low doses, and the growth of the follicles is carefully monitored by ultrasound. These scans may be supported by measurements of oestrogen release from the ovary into the bloodstream (or in urine). If monitoring shows that too many follicles are developing and the risk of multiple pg is high, doctors will usually suspend treatment and cancel that cycle.

A second gonadotrophin called hCG is given to stimulate release of the egg from the follicle in cases where ovulation does not occur despite normal follicular growth.

I have only seen the injectible kit; you usually have to inject yourself in the thigh and initially I was told to practice on an orange!. The sole reason why I did not go down this route was because I had to wait six months for the funding for this to come through!!. In the meantime as well the cons decided I was a suitable candidate for ovarian diathermy surgery so I had the surgery.

any other questions just ask.

Attila x

For some reason my popping on didn't work at all to get this into my 'I'm on' thingy, so am popping on again.

Hello Everyone,
I've just found this thread and hope you don't mind me joining in.
I'm on my first month of clomid after going for 1 year without ovulating after I came off the pill. It's good to read all your stories and experiences, nice to know I'm not the only one going through this.

I haven't had any scans but I have had blood tests that all came out normal so my lack of ovulation is a bit of a mystery. Since starting the clomid I've been told to check my temperature every morning. So far it seems to fluctuate quite a lot even though I take it correctly, so not sure if it's going to be a good guide to whether I'm ovulating.

It seems like a lot of you have PCOS but are there any of you with unexplained anovulation?

Buttercup x

hi all

well I am on last month of clomid and had scan today, I had 5 follicles all good size but FC suggested we dont try this month as high possibility of multiple pregnancy. TBH we have been trying for 27 months to concieve and there is no way im not trying on the last month of clomid. So busy week for me

buttercup - I have had all tests to check for pcos/blocked tubes/ovulation/fibroids and they have said the only thing wrong is slightly low ovulation ( thus clomid ) and wonky tubes.
are you with your GP or a consultant? It is such a good idea to have internal scans cd9-12 as it really shows whether the tabs are working.
Good luck with everything x

hi all
not been on for a little while as on the 2ww and been hectic as DD has started school. She's really enjoying it and was fine going in on her first morning (I wasnt!)
Hoping to be able to test soon
xxxxx

Buttercup

Re your comments:-

"I've just found this thread and hope you don't mind me joining in"

Welcome to this thread!!

"I'm on my first month of clomid after going for 1 year without ovulating after I came off the pill. It's good to read all your stories and experiences, nice to know I'm not the only one going through this".

Its actually more common than people realise. BTW there is no real evidence to suggest that the pill is responsible for failure to ovulate, what it can do is mask symptoms of any underlying hormonal problem.

"I haven't had any scans

Not good, you should have internal scans done on a regular basis

"but I have had blood tests that all came out normal so my lack of ovulation is a bit of a mystery".

What blood tests were done and on what days. Sometimes the results of such tests can look okay simply because they have not been interpreted correctly".

"Since starting the clomid I've been told to check my temperature every morning".

No point whatsoever in doing this, who told you this?.

"So far it seems to fluctuate quite a lot even though I take it correctly, so not sure if it's going to be a good guide to whether I'm ovulating".

With PCOS a temp chart can look like the Rocky Mountains.

"It seems like a lot of you have PCOS but are there any of you with unexplained anovulation?"

I think its unexplained partly because they haven't investigated you properly to date!. You have no diagnosis either and you've been given clomid to take. Giving you clomid as well without a diagnosis is not good either (not everyone with ovulation problems is suitable to take clomid). You should be monitored closely whilst on it with both blood tests and internal ultrasounds, no monitoring is a no-no.

You will need to be persistant in order to get answers. Some subfertility units are far better than others. I would seriously be looking into finding another unit to work with if they carry on in such a cavalier fashion.

BTW has your man been tested?. This should happen as a matter of course as well.

Buttercup

What are your cycles like?.

hi all, well had a scan done and she couldnt decide if i had a follicle or a cyst on the ultrasound but it wasnt there a week ago and now its quite big she said she didnt want to be too overly optismistic but do a lot of bedding.
have to go back next week.
feeling poorly today have hand foot and mouth its quite mild but really hurts on my feet, feel sicky and my throat is sore. not a happy bunny.

sorry for massive moan.

how you doing stac and clure?

go for the bedding clairebear- good luck!

Hi all

Claire i say go for it i think most of us would!

im getting myself all confused at moment as some of you will know from thread 2 im just a tad late!! i am now on cd71 no sign of af at all - my boobs feel big and heavy and feel bloated had the occasional bout of feeling bit faint.

although yes i do have PCOS my longest cycle was 48 days so im a bit past that now. Do any of you know if this is usual to have a random cycle?? i had bad period pain 4 weeks ago but no af.

anyway i did a test on sunday which was bfn as expected although i convinced myself of a line albeit extremelly faint - just did another test now and i can see a line which is faint again but dont have to hold it to the light at odd angles to see it this time! although it did come up at about 12 mins.

My question is do i wait another wk and do another test and see if im imagining things and it just a dark evap (can u get dark evap line??) line or go docs?? i dont really want to take any drugs to start af.

sorry for the long ramble but u are the only peeps can talk to about this!

peju, oh bless you. What a predicament. As a first step I would try a clearblue digital test which says either pregnant or not pregnant. If it is a negative and you are anxious (I know how you are feeling - I think I got over a CD100 a few cycles back!!) then visit your GP
I wish you luck x

peju

Normally cycles of more than 35 days are anovulatory.

Long cycles like this are pretty much par for the course with PCOS. I also used to get dark evap lines on pg tests.

I don't think you are expecting unfortunately , I think what you've seen are evaporation lines.

Please visit your GP asap and get a referral to a gynae at a subfertility unit. PCOS is not a condition that should be messed around with by GPs.

Hello everyone. Thanks heavens it's the weekend - although it's cd10 and we're supposed to be bding tonight and every night for a week, and dh is snoring on the couch. NOT very helpful!

hi all

CD29 and another BFN for me
Got my consultant appointment on monday, hoping to get some more answers!
Have a good weekend all
xx

Hi ya,

Nothing much going on here - think I may have ovulated a few days ago as I had a pain by my left him that went away after about 20 mins. So we BDed a few times just in case. Just have to wait a few weeks to see if we are successful this month & have a romantic evening planning to do a bit more practising!

Hope everyone is ok, have a good weekend!

xx

*hip not him sorry!

hi all,
sorry clure to hear about your bfn- its so disheartening but fingers crossed the cons on mon will give you some good news.
no news here had some ovulation type pains last night i think were quite strong so did some bdding today hmmm am really starting to lose hope need some positivity but cant seem to get going.

anyone tried reflexology at all? i am thinking about it.

seeing cons on mon too to discuss next steps and to see if i ovulated.

hope stac, kiwikat and clairebear and everyone is ok

have a good wkend all i am starting my new action plan to convince dp to get a cat... wish me luck he hates, hates cats

xx

paddington, I've heard that reflexology is good. I have a friend of a friend who I got talking to who practised reflexology and she is an advocate treating fertility issues alongside conventional medicine. I'm going to look into it. Also recommended is acupuncture. Stay positive, fingers crossed for you.

xx

hey clure, thanks for your reply
i definitely think i will look into reflexology. had accupuncture i only had one session it didnt hurt and i had a good follicle- that could be a coinscience though. i felt highly emotional and really freaked out afterwards though- cant explain it.

am trying to be positive. i just watched that i predicted the lottery man show- i am ashamed my curiousity got the better of me but as far as i know he didnt actually say how he did it really. however being positive and self belief was a big part of it apparently so i'll give it a go

Hello, hello, just popping on to see how you're all doing? Wasn't it absolutely GORGEOUS today?!

Hey ladies
sorry I haven't been on for a bit its been kind of manic here. I am still taking the metformin and have had surprisingly few side effects just heartburn and I am now up to 1500mg no signs of af which should techinically come on the 8th, havent tested though think I am too scared to see another bfn (soz to hear about your clure)

How is everyone? clairebear I would defo go for it a girl on another thread did and she is now pregnant with twins. paddington anything is worth a try I was going to buy the self hypnotist dvds that is apparantly meant to help you relax about ttc.
baby dust to all *xx