TTC after a Miscarriage - no 2, let the fun begin!!!!

[Diddle]

Here we go girls, a brand new thread, i was so fed up of paging down over the other 1000 messages.

I'm good thanks Diddle. Was supposed to be working a half day today, but got a call to say that the guy I'm supposed to be training is off sick, so I can have a nice easy day and sort out some admin and tidy the house instead.

Thought I'd dig out some humour to put a smile on your faces this morning. It's an old one but hopefully you won't have all seen it before.

Love vs Lust vs Marriage

LOVE - When your eyes meet across a crowded room.
LUST - When your tongues meet across a crowded room.
MARRIAGE - When you try to lose your spouse in a crowded room.

LOVE - When intercourse is called "making love."'
LUST - When intercourse is called "screwing."
MARRIAGE - When intercourse is a town in Pennsylvania.

LOVE - When you argue over how many children to have.
LUST - When you argue over who gets the wet spot.
MARRIAGE - When you argue over whose idea it was to have kids.

LOVE - When you share everything you own.
LUST - When you steal everything they own.
MARRIAGE - When the bank owns everything.

LOVE - When it doesn't matter if you don't climax.
LUST - When the relationship is over if you don't climax.
MARRIAGE - When ... uh ... what's a climax?

LOVE - When you phone each other just to say, "Hi."
LUST - When you phone each other to pick a hotel room.
MARRIAGE - When you phone each other to bitch about work.

LOVE - When you write poems about your partner.
LUST - When all you write is your phone number.
MARRIAGE - When all you write is checks.

LOVE - When your only concern is for your partner's feelings.
LUST - When your only concern is to find a room with mirrors all around.
MARRIAGE - When you're only concern as to what's on TV.

LOVE - When you are proud to be seen in public with your partner.
LUST - When you only see each other naked.
MARRIAGE - When you never see each other awake.

LOVE - When your heart flutters every time you see them.
LUST - When your groin twitches every time you see them.
MARRIAGE - When your wallet empties every time you see them.

LOVE - When all the songs on the radio describe exactly how you feel.
LUST - When the song on the radio determines how you do it.
MARRIAGE - When you listen to talk radio.

LOVE - When breaking up is something you try not to think about.
LUST - When staying together is something you try not to think about.
MARRIAGE - When just getting through the day is your only thought.

LOVE - When you're only interested in doing things with your partner.
LUST - When you're only interested in doing things TO your partner.
MARRIAGE - When you're only interested in your golf score.

LOVE- When a rainy day means more time to stay inside and talk.
LUST- When a rainy day means more time to stay inside and have sex.
MARRIAGE- When a rainy day means it's time to clean the basement.

LOVE- You only leave the house to buy coffee and doughnuts.
LUST- You only leave the house to buy condoms and Vaseline.
MARRIAGE- You only leave the house when you're allowed.

so true

lucky you, wish i had a day off.
Got 4 kids today and another 3 coming later on when some of the early ones go home. i did manage to get a lie in this morning though as my first one arrived at 8.15, which is late compared to normal.

Morning Tabs good analogy (sp?) have a nice day off.
Diddle I feel better last night had a few too many glasses of wine and went of on one about how unfair it is. But in general I'm trying not to over analise everything. I think I told you all before about the fact that I always wanted small gaps between the DC's but I have decided not to worry to much and stop fretting about it. The younger sister I mentioned yesterday is closet in age to me than my older sister and brother but i get on with her least

Morning All!
How is everyone today?
Tabs - So flippin true!
Diddle - Hows you today sweetie?
i had my hair done last night, needed cheering up. I had a very drastic change. I was blonde with the underneath a light brown colour, now i', darlo brown all over apart from flashes of blonde underneath and in my side fringe. Doesn't look like me but a change is all good and everyone has commented on how great it look so it's made me all cheery today. Feels like today is gonna be a good one!

lottielou - you're hair looks great, very nice. now you're turning into me, i have brown hair with a side fringe, shoulder length. are you my twin still?

Thanx LOL,how wierd. Well I have longish hair so not quite your twin. What colour eyes you got? Out of curiosity(sp?)

greeny grey, they're a bit weird.

Blue

are you mega busy lottielou, not like you just to put one word

Yeah I was then, sorry hun. Work is stupidly busy today. Oh well must make time for you! LOL
Did you have a good eve last night?
It took hours for my hair then when i got home DP was watching footie so i watched Bad Girls in bed, ate cheese on toast, had a cuppa, watched celebrity love island (am hooked) and then big brother and then Hollyoaks! God how sad am i

Morning,

Like your hair lottie very nice . So are you a natural blonde?

Welcome wishing chair so sorry about your m/c you'll find great support here and lots of dolphins are released (endorphins ended up as dolphins!) so now we're a fishy bunch.

Diddle hope you are doing ok and not having a too busy day, hope things are ok with Mr Diddle.

Hope everyone else is doing ok, not had a chance to catch up with everything cause, boy can you lot gas!!! .

Take care
Hx

Hi everyone - hope you're all well. Thanks for the welcomes ... I'm feeling good at the mo. Know what you mean Xena about wanting small age gaps - there's nearly 5 years between me and my brother and we've always got on well but I wanted smaller. Wanted 2.5 years to be exact which is what this last pregnancy would have meant but didn't work out. Now I'm trying to think that it's good I've got this extra time to enjoy DD on her own etc etc. But am thinking I want to start trying again soon because (please no) if I have another m/c, the gap just continues to get bigger and bigger. Am actually starting to feel quite excited about the whole prospect of ttc and pregnancy again ... although think this is prob cos it's not actual reality yet (af is here right now).

Sorry for waffling on - are you all being ultra-healthy and no booze etc? After m/c I swore I was going to basically eat organic veg and no alcohol for months prior to ttc again but am now not quite so sure ... what do you reckon?

Ooo and last thing ... I have to travel a lot with my job and although everyone tells me it's coincidence, all I know is that around the time my baby died, I flew a total of 6 times in 2-3 weeks ... 2 of those flights being to the US. Do you reckon it's reasonable to say if I get pregnant again, I'm not going to fly anywhere?

Hope everyone's having a good day

lottielou - i had a productive evening, painted the rest of our new room, and dh was watching the footie, but he actually ended up snoring on the sofa, i saw more goals than him.
Got more painting planned for tonight, and food shopping and visiting my grandad who is in Hospital at the moment.

Wishingchair - I haven't abstained from the booze, or coffee etc, but i have made a considerable effort to cut down, only having one glass of wine if any a night, and one coffee a day if i can manage it.
still stuffing my face with chocolate biccies too, i don't think ny of these things have a huge effect on m/c if had in moderation, and a healthy diet is a balanced one, which i do have.
I don't think flying would have had any effect on your pregnancy either, never heard of it being a factor towards m/c, its more dangerous in later pregnancy isn't it?
I'm no expert though so don't take my words as golden. Just my opinion.
Hope this month is your lucky one.

Harriezb - Mr Diddle is a new man, making a huge effort and in quite a good mood so far this week. think he's realised how lucky he is to have me, which is good. I'm doing ok, haven't had time to be upset or annoyed at the world so far.

Lottielou your hair sounds fab I need a complete change too but am nervous cause I have made mega mistakes in the past
WC my DS and DD1 are 4 years apart and they have done nothing this half term except play happily with each other, yesterday they spent the day writing books (DS was helping DD1 write all the hard words and spelling lots of things for her) and today they have made a library of all their books and made library cards and they take it in turns to play librarian. DD1 is 2y 3mths older than DD2 (who is 10mths) and she spent the day shoving her over everytime she came near her.
This is because DD2 IS WALKING Its so early for one of ours the other 2 walked in the week of the 1st birthdays but hers isn't for another 6 weeks!! I was so excited (can you tell)

xena - thats great that you're 10 month old si walking, clever little one. I look after a 9 month old and he is standing now but not walking without support. He seems so young to be doing it.

Re M/C and flying I think the reason you shouldn't fly in the last trimester is incase you go into preterm labour, I think that it would be a good idea to discuss with a doctor about the risks of such regular flying because if you were unfortunate enough to have a 2nd m/c and you had been flying you would wonder if that had been a factor. If you understand that waffle what I really mean is get a second opinion so that you can decide. HTH

I know diddle she looks to tiny to be walking

Ahh Xena that's brilliant news - well done DD2!

Re: flying. I know there's no evidence to say it's a problem but they also said the m/c could have been caused by a virus and I did feel rubbish the day after I arrived in the US. Aeroplanes are so bad for spreading infections. I know I'm being a bit silly. My boss had a baby last year after many many failed IVF attempts and she too didn't fly and the pregnancy was successful. Who knows eh?

You know WC that I think that you will need to stop flying for your own piece of mind, If your boss stopped flying then she should sympathetic.
I would like my GP to check for infection just to make sure I don't have a UTI as you can carry one for a couple of months with no treatment.

Hi all

Just catching up with you all.....am currently torturing myself by watching birth and baby programmes on sky.......come a long way as they don't upset me.....just makes me want my own baby more!!

I am 6 DPO and am going to be really, really patient and hold out from testing for ages!! I never had 'signs' with my other 2 pregnancies.....not like some women seem to have! I am feeling really positive though at the moment but probably dreaming!!

Saw a 2 week old little boy in town this morning when I took DS for new trainers....he was utterly gorgeous.....it will be me soon, I know.

My son is 5 so I have left a big gap but that is just the way it sometimes works out. Life doesn't always go to plan. At least I will have lots of time at home with a baby while DS is at school.

Hope you are all ok........must go back to my baby programmes.....OH MY GOD! SOUND LIKE A BABY-OBSESSED WIERDO!

I think you're right. If I flew and something happened I'd never forgive myself and would resent my job forever. I know you can't bubble wrap yourself but you can remove some unnecessary risks/stresses. Plus travelling isn't glam its bloody tiring and hard work. Who needs it?!

wishingchair - i agree with xena that it sounds like for your own piece of mind not flying would be the best thing.

Rachelrog - I'm 6 days past OV too, how soon can we test? how early might it show a pos?

Xena - i think it might be worth you getting checked out just for reassurance, and if there is an infection, so that you are in good health to try again.

Lottielou - Have you left us?

rachelorg - you're doing better than me, i ahve always cried at the baby programmes on sky, even before my m/c's purely because i wanted to have a baby so much. I have tried to watch the programmes since and get in such a state, i'm not risking them again just yet.

I did video that programme that was on bbc or itv a few months ago, showing the pictures of the baby inside the womb, and how ti developed. might try and watch that at the weekend.

All this talk of baby programmes, and here's me sitting here copying 'In the Womb' from Sky+ onto a video tape as I type! Diddle - was it 'Life Before Birth' that you have to watch? It was quite good, but had lots of very annoying poetry throughout! 'In the Womb' seems to be pretty much the same programme, but without the poetry, and with a bit more info I think (it was on National Geographihc a couple of weeks ago).

WC - I worried about whether flying had caused my m/c too, as I was actually on hols when it died, even though I didn't know it at the time. My midwife knew I was flying and said it was fine, but a GP friend who also had m/c after seeing heartbeat at 8 weeks reckons that there may be some risk, although hard to prove. I have chosen not to fly during this pregnancy, as even if it is totally unrelated, I, like you it seems, would forever wonder if things went wrong again.

I did give up alcohol, coffee etc whilst ttc again, and will be staying off them throughout pregnancy. I agree that a little whilst ttc shouldn't do any harm, but they all decrease fertility, and with the length of time it took for me to fall pg the first time, I just didn't want to do anything that could delay it happening again.

Xena - well done to DD2 you proud mummy!